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2009-07-16 7:27 PM
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I really believe in the "list" and "checking things off".  It was part of the turnaround for me last year and whenever I feel myself sinking I make sure I do something every day...


2009-07-25 2:27 AM
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Just remember when making a list of TTD (thngs to do), the first thing to put on is "make a list".  That way as soon as you have made the list you have something you can cross off.

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2009-07-25 6:37 AM
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Check in.  I'm racing next weekend (HIM) and I haven't been able to sleep since Tuesday.  Which is affecting my mood.  Plus it's grey and gross outside and I left my shoes at the Computrainer (an hour away) so I have to drive BACK to go get them.

I know I'm wallowing and that I need to give myself a chain rattle...  How's everyone else doing?
2009-07-25 9:48 AM
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Silver_wlf - 2009-07-25 7:37 AM Check in.  I'm racing next weekend (HIM) and I haven't been able to sleep since Tuesday.  Which is affecting my mood.  Plus it's grey and gross outside and I left my shoes at the Computrainer (an hour away) so I have to drive BACK to go get them.

I know I'm wallowing and that I need to give myself a chain rattle...  How's everyone else doing?


You are going to do awesome in your race...and riding back to get your shoes in a minor bump in the road.  Use some of that time to mentally prepare for your race and maybe that will help clear the head for some great rest during your taper week.

I have been doing better this month than in a long while and I thinks it relates directly to training.  I was going to bail on a HIM in Sept. but I got talked back into it by my trainng partner and have only missed 1 day of scheduled training since 7/5.

I really feel good about this since I am in the beginning stages of a divorce (after 35 years) and over the next few months that will happen along with the accompaning events such as moving out.  I don't have any other "family" (bro/sis Mom/Dad etc.) so there is really no one to talk to except for a few friends and some cyber freinds here on BT.  The BT'ers are some of the best people in the world and we have come to rely on each other for inspires and phone chats.

The holidays have been a hard time for me for a few years and this year I REALLY hopw to be able to train right through them.

Everyone keep checking back here and updating on how you are doing.


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2009-07-25 12:17 PM
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Steve - you're right - training and having a plan/partner really helps keep you on track!  Nice work!  (Holidays stink. I agree!)

Its tough to go through - but you'll be okay.  There are going to be some really tough moments - but remember that there's always us here to listen and support you.

You're right - BTers are AWESOME!

Thanks for the positive words.  I've got my brand new tri-shorts on and the sun just came out - so I'm going outside to get my run in.  Have a good day and thanks for keeping an eye on this thread!
2009-07-25 9:35 PM
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Been struggling with the wife lately.  It almost sucks the life out of me.  Training has sucked.  Trying so hard to get a morning workout in but I am so tired in the morning.  Not sure if I need new meds, seems like I have taken everyone in the book.  Sometimes it feels very hopeless.  30 years of depression and no answer.  Just whining!  Sorry!



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2009-07-27 9:20 AM
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Silver_wlf - 2009-07-25 7:37 AM Check in.  I'm racing next weekend (HIM) and I haven't been able to sleep since Tuesday.  Which is affecting my mood.  Plus it's grey and gross outside and I left my shoes at the Computrainer (an hour away) so I have to drive BACK to go get them.

I know I'm wallowing and that I need to give myself a chain rattle...  How's everyone else doing?


You are going to do awesome in your race...and riding back to get your shoes in a minor bump in the road.  Use some of that time to mentally prepare for your race and maybe that will help clear the head for some great rest during your taper week.

I have been doing better this month than in a long while and I thinks it relates directly to training.  I was going to bail on a HIM in Sept. but I got talked back into it by my trainng partner and have only missed 1 day of scheduled training since 7/5.

I really feel good about this since I am in the beginning stages of a divorce (after 35 years) and over the next few months that will happen along with the accompaning events such as moving out.  I don't have any other "family" (bro/sis Mom/Dad etc.) so there is really no one to talk to except for a few friends and some cyber freinds here on BT.  The BT'ers are some of the best people in the world and we have come to rely on each other for inspires and phone chats.

The holidays have been a hard time for me for a few years and this year I REALLY hopw to be able to train right through them.

Everyone keep checking back here and updating on how you are doing.


Steve



 

Steve,

Sorry to hear about the divorce. I hope that it is relatively smooth - all things considered. My girlfriend got divorced after 20 years. For them it was very amicable and straight forward. That is until she started dating me and he can't handle it...but that's another story.

July 21 was 1 year since my wife died. It's amazing to me how many people TRY to make me sad. They tell me how hard it must be for me, how much I must cry over her, miss her, etc. When I tell them we are doing well, they say, "you must still be in denial." WTF??? I watched the woman die for 4 years - now I'm supposed to just be sad for the hell of it? I don't get it.

 

Greg

 

2009-07-27 9:26 AM
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Great to see everyone checking in whether it's good bad or ugly. Greg--it's good to see you again too and it's so beautiful that you and co. are doing well. Yay!

I'm doing, all things considered, shockingly well. Big move back to Indonesia, sick parents, one of them a mad dictator, taking over the family business which is in shambles, lots of travel, running a household ... any one of those situations would be enough to drive a sane person mad. Oh, and no psychiatric care and no meds here. Have had to go off of them.

Yet I'm doing better than I ever have. I've been forced to tap every resource I've got at my disposal ... prayer, meditation, support of friends, online support, talking about it, training etc. etc.

For those of you who are struggling (and believe me, I am too, this is the fight of my life), HANG IN THERE and ACCEPT/SEEK/DEMAND any kind of help you can.

For me, it's one moment at a time (a day is too much to think about, even) and just letting bad situations be bad without complicating them by reacting badly.
2009-07-27 9:40 AM
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Hey peeps...
Good to hear from some of you folks that have been MIA. And as Yanti said, hang in there..it WILL get better. A mantra I use many times.
A support system is so vital and I don't have much of one these days. SO I need to work on forging healthy supportive relationships...something I'm awkward at doing. Ya know when you were a kid and all you had to do was walk up to a kid and say 'Wanna play?' or 'Wanna be my friend?'--that was so easy, so natural. As an adult it gets so complicated - or at least that's my view. And rejection? HAAA!
So thankful for training as a healthy outlet and stress reliever.
Best to all...
2009-07-31 10:14 AM
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Hi BT, my depression feels like it almost instantaneously hit after sustaining an injury 2 weeks ago that took me out of Vineman and could possibly take me out of the game of triathlon for quite some time. Years.

I'm picking up the Feeling Good book on Amazon today, but was wondering if anybody else has any other good reads for me. I have a lot of negative thoughts about the "should haves" and "would haves" I keep replaying the accident in my head with a lot of anger. I've lost concentration at work, I can't rememeber what tasks I've completed and what to accomplish next.

I have a lot of time on my hands at home, so maybe some good therapy books might help.

Anybody recommend?  I've been looking for books in regards to dealing with the after affects of bicycle accidents, something relating to our sport of endurance, anything dealing with women and how we get affected or let ourselves get affected by such incidents.

Thanks in advance, Looks like a good thread. Good luck to you all.



2009-08-01 12:30 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda-Overcoming-Opportunities/dp/0060973358

"Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda"-GREAT book.  Teaches you that the unpleasant outcomes of a single incident DO NOT have to hold you hostage.
2009-08-02 8:44 PM
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katachapin:

What was the accident?!  I'm so sorry. 

yours truly,

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2009-08-02 8:46 PM
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bbmoozer:

I know what it is to not feel comfy making friends.  I have a terrible time of it and worse, I often feel like - if they only knew of my depression bla bla bla they wouldn't want to be a friend of someone like me, so why bother? I won't be able to be myself anyway? 

These are the things I think.

But I get tired of being so incredibly lonely and shoving the feelings so down deep inside and pretend that they aren't there.

CHR15tree:

I like your nick.  You are a brit. Do you live in America?

I found that real medication combined with therapy is what has helped me the most.

I hope things get better for you soon.  Keep posting.  Let us know how we can help!


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2009-08-03 1:54 PM
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Thanks for the books suggestion! The title seems perfect, I'm going to check it out. 

My injury was sustained on my last ride before heading to Vineman a few weeks ago. Was going to be my first 70.3, a bum jumped out from behind a bush near a local army reserve base at 5oclock in the morning and I T-boned him. It happened so quickly. I wonder if I could have anticipated though, or swerved. At the time I felt like he was coming directly across the street, maybe I could have swerved, but then what about traffic? Then after the crash it sent me into the main street anyway and there were no cars.  I feel like beating that bum up for existing in the first place. What was he doing just cutting across the street so early in the morning. He smelt like alcohol and wasnt wearing anything but torn blue jeans. I feel as though if people don't have a purpose, why do you want to go around ruining other people's purposes. if that makes any sense.

I think this book will help. Thanks!
2009-08-05 4:39 PM
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Hi Katachapin:

That really sucks.  We all can really effect each other can't we?  Please try not to dwell and blame yourself and re-run the events (easier said than done.) It is done now.

Besides, under the circumstances, it sounds like you did the best you could.  Would you be willing to go to therapy? There is no shame in getting help and is sometimes the best thing you can do.  I know that there is a whole field regarding the psychology of sports injury in athletes because it can be so devastating to the psyche, especially when one is using activity to alleviate the effects of chronic depression.

I hope that your injuries heal much faster than you think. 

Please keep writing.  How are you?

dbw27


2009-08-05 8:17 PM
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Katachpin - that  is awful to have to replay in your mind. Funny how things like that stick with us. I'm a big animal lover and go out of my way not to run over critters in the road while driving a car. Now I know this is not a person, but it stuck in my mind. I played cat and mouse with a squirrel as he darted out in the road...he'd come, then turn back and so it went as I neared. I slowed and then he went back the other way. Suddenly though for whatever reason darted BACK toward me but by then I was accelerating and too close to him and a car was approaching from the other direction. THUD. And as I looked in the rearview mirror I saw I had totally flattened its head but its arms and legs were still flailing. That image will never be forgotten.
But over time I realized there was nothing I could have done differently. Accidents happen. I just try to do the next best thing... to do the right thing... and remember I'm human and capable of errors but also of forgiveness.
Don't beat yourself up. You will learn something from this...we all learn from life's less than sunny episodes. Take a deep breath and walk through it with someone you trust. Put it together to begin to make sense of it all for you to move forward.
Prayers to you.
Edit: Take time to heal both physically and emotionally.

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2009-08-06 9:37 AM
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Hi all. Hope everyone is well.

Been having a bad go of it lately. On one hand, my hip is healed now and I can walk on my own power. It feels great. And then I had a phone call for an interview at a place I intern at, and I was so happy, so so so happy. And then the interview went really well. And then they checked my references, and they all told me they gave me good ones. And then they hired someone else. So I have to sit at my desk, working on a big project, getting paid $0, while everyone fawns over the new girl (I had to sit through a 15 minute conversation across the cubes about how great and pretty she is...and then I went and hid in the bathroom). It hurt, I'm not going to lie.

I've had another line on another job. I networked my butt off, got a personal reference from someone senior in the organization, did everything I'm "supposed" to do. I called to follow up on the rec, only to be told that they had offered the job to someone already. Then take the job off the internet, hm?! It was another huge blow.

I know they mean well, but my mom and husband telling me "why don't you just go work at the grocery store?" or "why don't you just join a temp agency" (because temp agencies are overwhelmed and they told me I'm overqualified, that's why). Because apparently, despite my work and education, I'm still just some putz from Pittsburgh who is only good enough to work for minimum wage.

I'm so sick of the "maybe you're just meant to do something else". Well what the heck else can I do? I've applied for everything under the sun, and nothing. At some point this has to be about them not liking me as a person, at least on paper. I know , I know, your job doesn't define you, but it does.

And I'm so bloody sick of people (including on BT) talking about how the unemployed are lazy, and could "get jobs if they really wanted them" or "why don't you just move to a better market" (because it COSTS MONEY to move!) or "You have a cell phone! You should get rid of your cellphone and IpodShuffle and TV and everything you own! You're chosing to participate in recession" (yes, I don't need that phone, because I'm sure they'll send a carrier pigeon to send my rejection notice, my shuffle is 3 years old and was a christmas gift, our TV was also a gift, and yes, of course, how can I be so BLIND! I chose to be out of work for 9 months, why do I even bother sending 15+ applications a week!). I want to kick those people in the shins and put bubble solution in their gas tank. The economy sucks, and there's absolutely FA I can do about it. I'm bloody trying.

Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm a big bloody rain cloud today. Crab apple, even. Last night was fun though, got to go out with my mom and SIL and eat ourselves silly at a benefit for the Humane Society. There was puppy cuddling involved .
2009-08-07 8:48 AM
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phoenixazul - 2009-08-06 9:37 AM Hi all. Hope everyone is well. Been having a bad go of it lately. On one hand, my hip is healed now and I can walk on my own power. It feels great. And then I had a phone call for an interview at a place I intern at, and I was so happy, so so so happy. And then the interview went really well. And then they checked my references, and they all told me they gave me good ones. And then they hired someone else. So I have to sit at my desk, working on a big project, getting paid $0, while everyone fawns over the new girl (I had to sit through a 15 minute conversation across the cubes about how great and pretty she is...and then I went and hid in the bathroom). It hurt, I'm not going to lie. I've had another line on another job. I networked my butt off, got a personal reference from someone senior in the organization, did everything I'm "supposed" to do. I called to follow up on the rec, only to be told that they had offered the job to someone already. Then take the job off the internet, hm?! It was another huge blow. I know they mean well, but my mom and husband telling me "why don't you just go work at the grocery store?" or "why don't you just join a temp agency" (because temp agencies are overwhelmed and they told me I'm overqualified, that's why). Because apparently, despite my work and education, I'm still just some putz from Pittsburgh who is only good enough to work for minimum wage. I'm so sick of the "maybe you're just meant to do something else". Well what the heck else can I do? I've applied for everything under the sun, and nothing. At some point this has to be about them not liking me as a person, at least on paper. I know , I know, your job doesn't define you, but it does. And I'm so bloody sick of people (including on BT) talking about how the unemployed are lazy, and could "get jobs if they really wanted them" or "why don't you just move to a better market" (because it COSTS MONEY to move!) or "You have a cell phone! You should get rid of your cellphone and IpodShuffle and TV and everything you own! You're chosing to participate in recession" (yes, I don't need that phone, because I'm sure they'll send a carrier pigeon to send my rejection notice, my shuffle is 3 years old and was a christmas gift, our TV was also a gift, and yes, of course, how can I be so BLIND! I chose to be out of work for 9 months, why do I even bother sending 15+ applications a week!). I want to kick those people in the shins and put bubble solution in their gas tank. The economy sucks, and there's absolutely FA I can do about it. I'm bloody trying. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm a big bloody rain cloud today. Crab apple, even. Last night was fun though, got to go out with my mom and SIL and eat ourselves silly at a benefit for the Humane Society. There was puppy cuddling involved .


So sorry to hear about your job struggles, though employed, I have been there too many times.  I have been passed up for so many jobs and promotions it is hard to keep count.  But you have just got to keep moving.   One, you are getting interviews and they seem to be going well.  Yes, you might not get that job but count this as practice.  There are a lot of strikeouts before you can hit the long ball.   Two, you are not lazy because you are working.  Working to get a job!   People don't klnow what it is like to be unemployed until they are.   So they think that not going to a 9-5 job is being lazy.  It is not!  If anything it is double the pressure of a real job.
I wouldn't listen to what other people say about "looking for something else".  Did that and it sucked big time.  You know what is good for you so go for that.   It is a tough market but there are jobs out there.   What doesn't kill us only makes us stronger.   All these obstacles right now are just making you a better person and better employee down the road.  This is just a bump in the road.  You are not a "Pittsburgh Putz", c'mon Mr. Rogers was from Pittsburgh and he wasn't a putz!
I know it is hard to be patient but trust me, something great will come your way!   Good luck!
2009-08-08 1:01 PM
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Has anyone ever dropped out of a tri due to depression?  I don't think I can do it. I am so depressed and it is just really cyclical and I don't see it getting better. I keep getting fat, am not training well.  Got an olympic sept 27th. I just don't think I can do it.  Anyone else ever had to drop out?

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Yes, a few of them. Mine were more due to anxiety/hormones playing havoc with my training. (and some related heart palps that had to be checked out). I was able to get medical waivers on a few races, and did them when I felt better.

Some races, tho', I just did the best I could with what I had. Kept reminding myself it is an individual sport, against myself, and do it as slowly as I needed.

Do the same with training - I set out with some goals, but try to give myself a break when needed - baby steps.


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I'm in a bad one...I stopped taking a medication cuz it was making my tired - but now I'm feeling the emotional effects.  It doesn't help that I feel like I've lost 2 support-type people recently...

All I wanna do is sleep which is bad for me in for so many reasons...cuz then I don't wanna train.  And when I don't train it makes things even worse...

I have nothing to look forward to right now...besides work, work and more work :-/
2009-08-18 8:10 PM
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Sorry to hear that you are going through a rough patch Lisa.  Maybe you can talk to your Dr. about swapping your meds for something that gives you the ability to have more energy.

I noticed in your log, that you have a race coming up next month.  Maybe you can focus on that and use it to help get you off the couch and out of the bed.

I really hope things turn for the better and maybe you can find some replacements for your supporters in your Mentor Group or here in this forum.

P.M. if you just want to "talk".

Steve


2009-08-25 10:13 AM
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So I've been on the added medicine for a little less than a week.  I can tell I'm not as tired (which is a huge "symptom" of mine) but I think I'm going a bit crazy - and I'm guessing the effin' PMSin' doesn't help!

I did a challenge on BT and YET again I will not meet my goal.  It's like the realization that I won't meet it gets me down and discourages me from even trying.

I'm unsure if I will be doing another race this year.  I think I'm going to do a bike race AND was thinking about doing a duathlon - but I have N-O motivation right now to work out!  I can usually convince myself to bike or swim, but running...not so much... :-(  Which, of course, is my weakest "link"...

AND....I'd like to mention I am SOOOO tired of paying for all of this shite?!?!?  I have a job (thank goodness!) and decent health coverage - - but it still doesn't help when I have to pay for medications, visits with the psych, visits with the therapist...and a short visit in PHP (partial hospitilization) that supposedly my health care paid for, but it got missed billed - - which I have TRIED to explain multiple times, via phone and mail...but to no avail.  So eff it!  I just paid for it and hope my FSA reimburses me. 

Then there is all the equipment and such for tri'ing...this is my first season, so I'm starting from almost nothing to having to buy this and that.... ARGH!!

I feel like I'm letting my challenge team down, my boss down (cuz I'm half-assing my job that I sorta-kinda don't like) and most of all me... I HATE, HATE, HATE using depression as an excuse - but sometimes I have to realize its an obstacle...so when is it an "excuse" and when is it an explaination?!?!?
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My old shrink told me that depression is amotivational.  It saps your energy, motivation, hopes, dreams and aspirations until all you can do is say it over and over.  I know what youre talking about with the "I wont finish, why even try" That's the amotivational aspect of this depression thing.  I once sat buck naked in front of a locker at my old health club for close to 20 minutes internally thinking "why go swim, you suck."

The hardest thing for me to do is to push thru and do it.  Or at least try to do it.  Anything is better than nothing.  If you dont at least try to do what you set out for, the depression wins, because its job is to suck away your motivation.

I dont think using depression as an excuse works, or at least not for long.  As an excuse, a lot of people wont care, and others will only take it for so long.  Its like an alcoholic continuously saying "Well, sorry, i was drunk. I'm an alcoholic you know, cant help it........"  That doesnt fly for long.

If you lean on depression as an excuse, well then you are short-cutting the work required to deal with it.  If you have an excuse, why go to a shrink? why take meds? why get out of bed?  It's just another example of the depression winning.

Dont let it win.  Do what you can and tick off little victories. 
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