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phxphotog - 2010-04-13 11:36 PM This is my 1st year of doing triathlons...actually only been training for about 3 months now. I haven't really had any sidelining injuries yet because I'm sticking to the 10% training program. Every week you increase 10% in time for 3 weeks and then you reduce by 40%. This has been working out pretty well for me. I'm getting the time in and am seeing results in distance and speed.

I'm not really doing much intensity work right now. My track club that I run with on Tues does some intensity stuff but most of them have been running for a long time. I go out and run for as long as I feel comfortable with and then skip a 200 yd sprint to let my body rest for a minute or two. Tonight I went to Master's swim and we did a 16 lap intensity set that was actually really fun but it didn't kill me to do it.

I have been struck by a bug twice since I started training. It always happens when I start working out. About a month in I will get a cold that will last about two weeks. It did sideline my training a bit in March but I just need to get back at it now with only 1 1/1 weeks until my 1st Oly.

I did my 1st OWS this weekend and it didn't go well. I'm going back out with a group on Thur and then on Sunday as well. I need to get the OWS down my the 24th. Confidence is what I'm looking for. I'm not going to podium in my 1st OLY so I just want to finish in the best time I can. Someone told me in my 1st Sprint that I can walk tomorrow when I was walking on the run. I'm using that as my mantra for my OLY. I'm going to leave it all out there on the run.

I am planning on doing a 1/2 IM in Oct but I won't start to train for that until June or July. Until them I just want to keep increasing my physical ability. My HR is finally coming down on my run but my legs are still getting tired and sore. If I could get that down I would feel a lot better about the 6 and 13.1 mile races I have coming up. The run is definitely my weakest of the three. I'm struggling to get 12 min miles in. When I see people do 1/2 mary's at 7 min miles I wonder if I'll ever get there. It seems so far away.

Bottom line, I'm in a base building stage right now but I should be able to start some speed and intensity stuff in the late summer or early fall.

I'm in awe of some of the time, speed and distance that everyone in our group is doing. I know I'll get there someday.


You and I have very similar backgrounds - just under 17m 5K in high school and then not much to show for it after that, except being well into the 200 pounds.  I hope you enjoy the journey back down, and back to that fitness, like I am.  One of my long term goals is for 30-something Josh to beat 17-Josh in a 5K and the mile.
2010-04-14 1:38 PM
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PennState - 2010-04-14 1:05 PM





Central PA cycling!



Hah! you're making me home-sick. I lived/went to college in Lancaster PA and I'm from the Philly area. Looks like I'm behind on posts already here... going to go read back.

Meanwhile I have a nutrition questions. I'm just sorta finishing off writing a rough draft of my nutrition plans.

1) Do any of you use clif bars? I've only been able to use them on rides of about 3 hours and it seems so far so good (1/2 per hour w/ 1 bottle infinite) but the fiber in the worries me a bit. I do plan on alternating what I eat (W/ GU and Honey Stingers) so I don't tire of it since I'll likely be out there the entire day and likely taper off the solids the last few hours of the bike.

2) Fluids. I don't want to carry them with me on the run but I still need to plan out approx calories per hour. How do I know what calories are in say the standard cup of Gatorade endurance that is handed out or other things that are likely not measured out. Any way to estimate?


Otherwise... I'm thinking of doing my first "group ride" this weekend. There is a local ride out in the burbs called folks on spokes and the 2 longer ride options are 45 and 65. Haven't decided which. 45 fits my 3 hour ride planned, but the 65 is tempting, but likely over-doing it at this point in the plan.

Okay back to reading!
2010-04-14 1:50 PM
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I use clif bars and have for the bike portion of a couple of my races. I also plan to use it for the 70.3 race.  I have no problems with them.  I am also curious about nutrition for longer events.
2010-04-14 1:51 PM
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For those who identify running as your weakest sport, let me echo the comments already made that speedwork is a very risky way to make you faster.  In fact, for long course triathlon training, speedwork should comprise almost NONE of your training - it simply won't make you faster at the marathon after a 112 mile bike the same way LSD and marathon paced runs will... and there is FAR more injury potential in speedwork.

You WILL get faster and have far less injury risk if you just increase your volume, preferably by increasing the frequency of your run.  Talking about adding track-work after base training for a few months is premature, imho, unless you are absolutely maxed out on available time and cannot increase your training load through distance.  Even then, FAR better to do some tempo work then to do some track-work.


2010-04-14 2:07 PM
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PennState - 2010-04-08 6:03 PM

I have a computrainer and have tested on it before. Let us know how you did the test and how long it was. Your power numbers sound very good.


The test was run in my IM training group on the compu-trainers. I don't remember the warm-up protocol but it was basically a 20-min all-out steady test. The reason I'm not sure of accuracy is because she quickly calibrates each of us on the trainer every week so I'm sure any numbers are just a rough estimate.

We will be re-testing next Tuesday after 8 weeks training, so we'll see how the power numbers compare. I'll let you guys know. Hopefully my power to weight ratio will have at least improved. I should be a few lbs lighter then last time.
2010-04-14 2:09 PM
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Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 12:54 AM I have a question about cut off time for the 70.3 races. The website states that the cut off times are as follows...
Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
So, does that mean that those who are in the first waves have more time to finish the race?  That doesn't seem right to me but I then I have never dealt with cut off times before. I am familiar with the IM cut off times as everyone starts at the same time but I am not clear about when there is a wave start. Does everyone have to finish the race in a certain amount of time ie... 8.5 hours?


Yes. People in the last wave have less time to finish the race than people in the first wave before the cut off time.


Ok. Sorry that I am still a little unclear about this so forgive me.  So, if the race starts at  7:00am  for example would it finish at 3:00pm and whoever is still on the course is a DNF?  I guess what I am trying to understand is if the race goes for a certain time.. 5 hours, 6 hours or whatever and if people are out on the course beyond that then it is a DNF.  I know Ironman races allow for 17 hours. What is it for 70.3 races?
Thanks!
2010-04-14 2:45 PM
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Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 2:09 PM

dharris13 - 2010-04-14 9:17 AM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 12:54 AM I have a question about cut off time for the 70.3 races. The website states that the cut off times are as follows...
Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
So, does that mean that those who are in the first waves have more time to finish the race?  That doesn't seem right to me but I then I have never dealt with cut off times before. I am familiar with the IM cut off times as everyone starts at the same time but I am not clear about when there is a wave start. Does everyone have to finish the race in a certain amount of time ie... 8.5 hours?


Yes. People in the last wave have less time to finish the race than people in the first wave before the cut off time.


Ok. Sorry that I am still a little unclear about this so forgive me.  So, if the race starts at  7:00am  for example would it finish at 3:00pm and whoever is still on the course is a DNF?  I guess what I am trying to understand is if the race goes for a certain time.. 5 hours, 6 hours or whatever and if people are out on the course beyond that then it is a DNF.  I know Ironman races allow for 17 hours. What is it for 70.3 races?
Thanks!


I don't know if it's the same for all the races but when I was looking at 70.3 Racine it said this:

Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start

But obviously non-Mdots would have different cut-offs.

The one I'm doing (DoorCounty a non-mdot) says:

Course time limit = 8.5 hours (5:30 pm)

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2010-04-14 3:12 PM
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Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 2:09 PM
dharris13 - 2010-04-14 9:17 AM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 12:54 AM I have a question about cut off time for the 70.3 races. The website states that the cut off times are as follows...
Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
So, does that mean that those who are in the first waves have more time to finish the race?  That doesn't seem right to me but I then I have never dealt with cut off times before. I am familiar with the IM cut off times as everyone starts at the same time but I am not clear about when there is a wave start. Does everyone have to finish the race in a certain amount of time ie... 8.5 hours?


Yes. People in the last wave have less time to finish the race than people in the first wave before the cut off time.


Ok. Sorry that I am still a little unclear about this so forgive me.  So, if the race starts at  7:00am  for example would it finish at 3:00pm and whoever is still on the course is a DNF?  I guess what I am trying to understand is if the race goes for a certain time.. 5 hours, 6 hours or whatever and if people are out on the course beyond that then it is a DNF.  I know Ironman races allow for 17 hours. What is it for 70.3 races?
Thanks!


The time limits of 8.5 hours really only applies to the last wave.  Events can last more than 10 hours depending on the number of waves.  Normally there is about 5-10 minutes between waves in a HIM.  So if you are in the first of 10 waves, with a 10 minute wave separation you would have an additional 90 minutes to finish the total event.  You would also have 90 additional overall minutes to finish the three disciplines.  Everyone in the last wave will have 8.5 hours to finish.  Everyone else will have more time depending on how much earlier their wave started prior to the last wave.   However if you are slow in any given area and fall behind the individual cut off limits for the last wave you would then DNF. 
Greg


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2010-04-14 3:19 PM
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PennState - 2010-04-14 2:05 PM



Central PA cycling!

Very similar to the area where I ride at home Fred.  I was very prepared for the hills of LP simply riding normal routes around home.  

2010-04-14 3:21 PM
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PennState - 2010-04-14 1:58 PM Temecula is supposed to be a really nice place. I love biking the hillarious of central PA myself

It is nice, especially if you are into small local wineries and doing wine tasting.  It was not unusual to have grape vineyards on one side of the road, orange groves on the other and snow covered hills ahead!

2010-04-14 3:49 PM
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GRB1 - 2010-04-14 2:12 PM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 2:09 PM
dharris13 - 2010-04-14 9:17 AM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 12:54 AM I have a question about cut off time for the 70.3 races. The website states that the cut off times are as follows...
Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
So, does that mean that those who are in the first waves have more time to finish the race?  That doesn't seem right to me but I then I have never dealt with cut off times before. I am familiar with the IM cut off times as everyone starts at the same time but I am not clear about when there is a wave start. Does everyone have to finish the race in a certain amount of time ie... 8.5 hours?


Yes. People in the last wave have less time to finish the race than people in the first wave before the cut off time.


Ok. Sorry that I am still a little unclear about this so forgive me.  So, if the race starts at  7:00am  for example would it finish at 3:00pm and whoever is still on the course is a DNF?  I guess what I am trying to understand is if the race goes for a certain time.. 5 hours, 6 hours or whatever and if people are out on the course beyond that then it is a DNF.  I know Ironman races allow for 17 hours. What is it for 70.3 races?
Thanks!


The time limits of 8.5 hours really only applies to the last wave.  Events can last more than 10 hours depending on the number of waves.  Normally there is about 5-10 minutes between waves in a HIM.  So if you are in the first of 10 waves, with a 10 minute wave separation you would have an additional 90 minutes to finish the total event.  You would also have 90 additional overall minutes to finish the three disciplines.  Everyone in the last wave will have 8.5 hours to finish.  Everyone else will have more time depending on how much earlier their wave started prior to the last wave.   However if you are slow in any given area and fall behind the individual cut off limits for the last wave you would then DNF. 
Greg

Thanks for the clarification!  I really hope I am in one of the first waves
2010-04-14 3:49 PM
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IdealMuse - 2010-04-14 2:38 PM
PennState - 2010-04-14 1:05 PM

2) Fluids. I don't want to carry them with me on the run but I still need to plan out approx calories per hour. How do I know what calories are in say the standard cup of Gatorade endurance that is handed out or other things that are likely not measured out. Any way to estimate? !


For me...this is a major reason why i DO carry all my calories with me on the run. I like to keep things precise, because if i do not, then i start to overthink things and doubt myself. Carrying it with me takes all the thinking out of it. It doesnt matter what time i reach an aid station. I fuel every 20 minutes..no matter how far i have gone. If i carry what i need...i know i can be sure exactly how many calories i am taking in per hour.


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Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 4:49 PM
GRB1 - 2010-04-14 2:12 PM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 2:09 PM
dharris13 - 2010-04-14 9:17 AM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 12:54 AM I have a question about cut off time for the 70.3 races. The website states that the cut off times are as follows...
Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
So, does that mean that those who are in the first waves have more time to finish the race?  That doesn't seem right to me but I then I have never dealt with cut off times before. I am familiar with the IM cut off times as everyone starts at the same time but I am not clear about when there is a wave start. Does everyone have to finish the race in a certain amount of time ie... 8.5 hours?


Yes. People in the last wave have less time to finish the race than people in the first wave before the cut off time.


Ok. Sorry that I am still a little unclear about this so forgive me.  So, if the race starts at  7:00am  for example would it finish at 3:00pm and whoever is still on the course is a DNF?  I guess what I am trying to understand is if the race goes for a certain time.. 5 hours, 6 hours or whatever and if people are out on the course beyond that then it is a DNF.  I know Ironman races allow for 17 hours. What is it for 70.3 races?
Thanks!


The time limits of 8.5 hours really only applies to the last wave.  Events can last more than 10 hours depending on the number of waves.  Normally there is about 5-10 minutes between waves in a HIM.  So if you are in the first of 10 waves, with a 10 minute wave separation you would have an additional 90 minutes to finish the total event.  You would also have 90 additional overall minutes to finish the three disciplines.  Everyone in the last wave will have 8.5 hours to finish.  Everyone else will have more time depending on how much earlier their wave started prior to the last wave.   However if you are slow in any given area and fall behind the individual cut off limits for the last wave you would then DNF. 
Greg

Thanks for the clarification!  I really hope I am in one of the first waves


I just found out i was in the first amatur wave of my HIM in 2.5 weeks. Hopefully you will find out soome good news too
2010-04-14 4:13 PM
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dharris13 - 2010-04-14 2:51 PM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 4:49 PM
GRB1 - 2010-04-14 2:12 PM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 2:09 PM
dharris13 - 2010-04-14 9:17 AM
Kath2163 - 2010-04-14 12:54 AM I have a question about cut off time for the 70.3 races. The website states that the cut off times are as follows...
Swim: 1 hour and 10 minutes after final wave start
Bike: 5 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
Run: 8 hours and 30 minutes after final wave start
So, does that mean that those who are in the first waves have more time to finish the race?  That doesn't seem right to me but I then I have never dealt with cut off times before. I am familiar with the IM cut off times as everyone starts at the same time but I am not clear about when there is a wave start. Does everyone have to finish the race in a certain amount of time ie... 8.5 hours?


Yes. People in the last wave have less time to finish the race than people in the first wave before the cut off time.


Ok. Sorry that I am still a little unclear about this so forgive me.  So, if the race starts at  7:00am  for example would it finish at 3:00pm and whoever is still on the course is a DNF?  I guess what I am trying to understand is if the race goes for a certain time.. 5 hours, 6 hours or whatever and if people are out on the course beyond that then it is a DNF.  I know Ironman races allow for 17 hours. What is it for 70.3 races?
Thanks!


The time limits of 8.5 hours really only applies to the last wave.  Events can last more than 10 hours depending on the number of waves.  Normally there is about 5-10 minutes between waves in a HIM.  So if you are in the first of 10 waves, with a 10 minute wave separation you would have an additional 90 minutes to finish the total event.  You would also have 90 additional overall minutes to finish the three disciplines.  Everyone in the last wave will have 8.5 hours to finish.  Everyone else will have more time depending on how much earlier their wave started prior to the last wave.   However if you are slow in any given area and fall behind the individual cut off limits for the last wave you would then DNF. 
Greg

Thanks for the clarification!  I really hope I am in one of the first waves


I just found out i was in the first amatur wave of my HIM in 2.5 weeks. Hopefully you will find out soome good news too


That is great!   I look forward to hearing about your race.
2010-04-14 4:15 PM
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See all of this discussion about when to start/do speed work confuses me. I've been on BT for a long time and it seems that the collective wisdom here is to build up slowly to doing speed work after a longish period of consistent running, something that I agree with.

However, I'm in the last few weeks of a 10 week coached program to prepare a group of us for the Wildflower Oly and they have us doing speed work every single week. I've been running for a few years and feel like I have a pretty good base, but I'm not yet at the point where running more won't make me faster.

There are other people in the group who are brand new to tris and running and it just surprises me that the coaches have us doing speed work every week. I 100% trust the coaching on everything else, but part of me wonders if it makes more sense for me to skip the speed work and just work on increasing my mileage each week. I'm running a lot less now on this program than I was a few months ago when training on my own.
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2010-04-14 9:35 PM
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Aaaaactually, what I love about the BT training programs for the run leg prep is the 20-30 second strides that are done every 5 minutes! I whole-heartedly believe that I wouldn't run the times that I do do if it weren't for these VERY short bursts of speed.  

Now...ask me to go do sprints around a track and I'd probably have to control my middle finger. =p  

If you're not sure about the stride stuff then I'd highly recommend looking into it! 


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WittyCityGirl - 2010-04-14 9:35 PM

Aaaaactually, what I love about the BT training programs for the run leg prep is the 20-30 second strides that are done every 5 minutes! I whole-heartedly believe that I wouldn't run the times that I do do if it weren't for these VERY short bursts of speed.  

Now...ask me to go do sprints around a track and I'd probably have to control my middle finger. =p  

If you're not sure about the stride stuff then I'd highly recommend looking into it! 


I'm also training with a group and our workouts have strides in them as well at this point (we haven't started the really heavy build phase yet though). I don't mind doing them as I don't go crazy with the speed usually just high zone3. (She usually mentions no sprinting)

I also try and make sure I'm not doing them on a hard surface. Being a heavier runner I have to be mindful of anything that increases impact. I know 180 isn't super heavy at this point but I started running at about 240 so it's just sort of built in caution at this point. Heh.

Edited by IdealMuse 2010-04-14 10:25 PM
2010-04-15 12:29 AM
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Well, one person is out for IMSG and it isn't me but almost as bad.

My wife found out she has to go to Denver that week for an audit.  She will fly back Friday night, her being there for the race is in question; which sucks in a way because its not going to play out at all how I expected.

On a positive, I'm still coughing but I actually felt like I had all my energy back today, just in time for the final few days training.  It also looks like I'll make the weight I wanted to be at race day (between 155-165).

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2010-04-15 12:50 AM
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My story for todays workout... includes mountain biking, 1800ft of vertical, a broken bike, and an impromptu run:

So I figured I'd mix it up today and went out with a group for a little mountain biking.  It's an 8 mile round trip, out and back trail.  It climbs 1800ft in 4miles on the way out and then you get to go downhill on the way back obviously.

My mountain bike is old... as in a 1997 Cannondale F400 complete with grip shifters (which was apparently "cool" back then or something).  I don't mountain bike much, which is pretty obvious with the bike I have.  But I held my own and stayed middle of the pack during the climb up.  Then we turn around to head back down.  I tell everyone to go ahead of me since "you don't want to be behind a roadie/triathlete on a mountain bike going downhill".  I'm flying down with all of them, keeping up with their big monster trucking 29ers and full suspension bikes.  We get to some more rocky technical sections and I give a big more gap between me and the guy in front of me just in case.  I notice a big 6" rock shoot up and bang the frame/rear wheel or something, but I keep going... no harm done (I think).  Cruising downhill, I start trying to pedal again, but it doesn't seem to speed me up any more than coasting would have.  Finally it gets to the point I have to dismount because I just can't do the technical section.  I go to get back on... and the pedal spins the chain, spins the cassette, but the cassette isn't turning the rear wheel at all.  My freewheel must be busted, I've got a bike that I can't pedal!

So... I think... hm, well, there's still more downhill after this flat section, so I jump off and start running with the bike.  Jump back on and cruise some more downhill, hit more technical sections, dismount, through the bike over the shoulder and start running.  I do this for about half a mile until it's dead flat and rocky and I have no choice but to run the remaining since the last 1/4 mile is slightly uphill.

All along during this I'm still having a good time.  In my head I'm thinking "this feels like an Xterra!" and "If this happens in my IM with 10 miles to go on the bike, there's no way I'm dropping out... I'll running the rest of the bike course!"

The rest of the guys apparently thought it was pretty "bad @$$" that I didn't just walk back like they would have but actually ran, they could see me from a decent distance from the parking lot.

Just thought I'd share.  Has anyone else ever thought about whether they'd be willing to run part of the bike course of an IM or HIM if their bike broke?

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zionvier - 2010-04-14 10:50 PM My story for todays workout... includes mountain biking, 1800ft of vertical, a broken bike, and an impromptu run:

So I figured I'd mix it up today and went out with a group for a little mountain biking.  It's an 8 mile round trip, out and back trail.  It climbs 1800ft in 4miles on the way out and then you get to go downhill on the way back obviously.

My mountain bike is old... as in a 1997 Cannondale F400 complete with grip shifters (which was apparently "cool" back then or something).  I don't mountain bike much, which is pretty obvious with the bike I have.  But I held my own and stayed middle of the pack during the climb up.  Then we turn around to head back down.  I tell everyone to go ahead of me since "you don't want to be behind a roadie/triathlete on a mountain bike going downhill".  I'm flying down with all of them, keeping up with their big monster trucking 29ers and full suspension bikes.  We get to some more rocky technical sections and I give a big more gap between me and the guy in front of me just in case.  I notice a big 6" rock shoot up and bang the frame/rear wheel or something, but I keep going... no harm done (I think).  Cruising downhill, I start trying to pedal again, but it doesn't seem to speed me up any more than coasting would have.  Finally it gets to the point I have to dismount because I just can't do the technical section.  I go to get back on... and the pedal spins the chain, spins the cassette, but the cassette isn't turning the rear wheel at all.  My freewheel must be busted, I've got a bike that I can't pedal!

So... I think... hm, well, there's still more downhill after this flat section, so I jump off and start running with the bike.  Jump back on and cruise some more downhill, hit more technical sections, dismount, through the bike over the shoulder and start running.  I do this for about half a mile until it's dead flat and rocky and I have no choice but to run the remaining since the last 1/4 mile is slightly uphill.

All along during this I'm still having a good time.  In my head I'm thinking "this feels like an Xterra!" and "If this happens in my IM with 10 miles to go on the bike, there's no way I'm dropping out... I'll running the rest of the bike course!"

The rest of the guys apparently thought it was pretty "bad @$$" that I didn't just walk back like they would have but actually ran, they could see me from a decent distance from the parking lot.

Just thought I'd share.  Has anyone else ever thought about whether they'd be willing to run part of the bike course of an IM or HIM if their bike broke?



I'm glad you're okay!  I MTB every once in awhile and its definately alot riskier than a roadie.

...and yes, I have thought about running the bike course; Of course anything past 10 miles to go wouldn't happen, even at 10 out I would probably blow myself up. Its a good thing I only have a 16 lb bike if it does happen!
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