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2015-07-09 9:05 AM
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Originally posted by Qua17  But the high cadence count seems to be helping. Any suggestions on how to refine it?? Right now I'm averaging 85 - 90. I don't have a counter and can't afford one but I just want to see if I can keep working on refining what seems like a very helpful skill.

That's a great cadence range. A good way to increase cadence and pedalling technique is to do spin drills. Spin as fast as you can (without excessive bouncing) in an easy gear for 20 seconds. Rest 1 min and do it again. That'll help with overall leg speed. 




Alan - I will try this drill. I'm noticing two things when it comes to cadence - I need to work on improving my upstroke. 98% of the time I'm not even aware of it - but I know that this is something I need to work on. Also, I notice a clanging sound usually when one of my feet is at the top of the arc - which makes me think that my stroke is uneven - not only in terms of the upstroke but also in comparison to the work that my left and right legs are doing. I got hit by a car and broke my femur when I was 13 and that limits the power on my left side. Any thoughts on how I could equalize it in order to smooth the entire revolution?


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Cadence is my issue too (or one of them!). I have increased from an average of about 60 when I first started riding to an average of about 75-80 this spring/summer. I'd like to be up in the range of 85 when I hit my Oly in September.

I had a really great run this morning--one of those runs that makes you recall why you like this sport in the first place. A little over 3 miles with the dog, in a light fog/humidity cloud/rain where I was able to keep a good pace and my HR stayed where it was supposed to be (233/400). Later on I have another swim/lift dilemma.


Gretchen - outstanding work! There is nothing better than a great workout. Kudos on having a great run and reconnecting with your passion for the sport. I bet the dog loved it as well!
2015-07-09 9:20 AM
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The cadence thing is exactly what I'm working on too - to be more consistent and not get burned out for the run. My ride Monday hung at about 88 over 20 miles on rolling terrain.

So I'm heading to FitWerx next week to work with Ian to try and figure out my saddle issues. We'll go through my fit and also do pressure mapping. I wish I had done this from the get-go. He did tell me to think about if I want to be set up more for aerobars or hood riding....wah, I want both, I switch in and out constantly. LOL. I am reasonably comfortable now in aero but the saddle makes me scream when upright. LOL. He did mention that those with a bony butt (sorry, tmi) have a whole different set of issues than others. So, that being said, there is a possibility I may have a Cobb 55 JOF for sale soon, we shall see!
Iron Cowboy comes here tomorrow!!


Jenn - Please say hi to the Cowboy for me - talk about redefining that's possible for a human being to do. Amazing!

In regards to your saddle - I believe the saddle is only half of the issue we as riders face. When I started going long distance - I had a bevy of problems when it came to my saddle which I thought buying a new saddle would fix. After spending a ton of money on the widest saddle you can by on the market (my sit bones were almost too big for the foam tester), I discovered that I still wasn't comfortable. My LBS suggested that I buy a $180 dollar pair of saddle shorts. I told the guy - there was no way I was going to spend that amount of money for a pair of shorts). He let me take home a pair of his that no longer fit him (disgusting I know) telling me that I could just bring them back if I didn't see the difference, which turned out to be amazing. These shorts have shoulder straps to keep them in place and it makes all the difference. Plus, the padding is sewn on strategically to eliminate sores (not entirely). I tried them, loved them, and willingly paid the money. Check them out http://www.assos.com/en/67/choose-your-comfort.aspx They even make a pair specifically designed for women.
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A scary thought popped in my head while running this morning. I was actually enjoying it. Crazy!

2015-07-09 9:28 AM
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Dave! Always good to hear from you. Glad you had a good vacation! When is your tri? It's your first right? I think you and I are the only true tri newbs left at this point

I'm a serious sweat-er too. Especially from the head. Its out of control... I do have one of those headsweats hats and I love it, especially compared with the Champion C9 and Under Armor ones I've tried. Headsweats are awesome - enough ventilation to attempt to keep you cool, but enough absorption to collect more sweat. I also have a headsweats headband I wear under my bike helmet for workouts (I have one of those cool helmets with the crank tighten adjustment for the crown, in addition to the chinstrap, so I can make it a little larger to accommodate the headband).

BTW if you're watching TdF coverage you already know this, but there's a coupon code for ordering from headsweats directly (30% off) - BOBKE That may be cheaper than ordering through amazon, it may not, but usually the codes are 15-25% so 30% is a big deal

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2015-07-09 12:26 PM
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Another bike question for you guys... I'm not going to change wheels now, but the cracks forming in the rear rim have me looking. As near as I can tell the weight for my wheelset (Bontrager Race - not Race Lite, Race X Lite, etc.) is around 1750g. They're a shallow V, and the super cool looking Rolf designed 'double spoke' lacing pattern. I'm going to need to replace at least the rear, but I'd prefer a matching set....what are my options? I'm not terribly heavy (currently 167lb/76kg/just under 12 stone for any brits) so I'm not worried about load for my wheels to support (aka don't really want Askiums). I don't want to think too hard about budget - if I had a grand, I'd get Flos and be done with it - I'm absolutely sold on those. But, I don't have a grand... I'm willing to go up some weight for something more aero if there's a benefit, but really don't want to feel like I'm riding through sludge - I love how easily my bike accelerates.

BTW I've tried searching the general forum for this, but the search function....leaves a lot to be desired. It either comes back with no results, or 2,431 pages of results.


2015-07-09 12:37 PM
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Would love to! Just invite me to give a lecture, will be there with a great wine to share!

Heat is terrible these days, 40ºC almost all day, just no way to go out running outdoors unless it's 6am or midnight, so spinning class with 15min run afterwards, good for the day.

Have a great weekend and good luck to those racing!!

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2015-07-09 12:41 PM
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On the topic of cadence- either I'm really lucky, or I've spent way too much time in spin class. My first class the teacher gave me the particulars on RPM - slow/hill climb shouldn't go below 45 RPM, steady riding should be about 90 RPM, and sprints are 110-120. These are pretty general of course, but they've stuck with me. My flat road ride just settles in naturally around 90 RPM. I'd love to get a cadence sensor for my bike to see if it really is that on the road.
2015-07-09 12:51 PM
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The end of the day, most of us are buying the wheelset for looks. Unless you are edging towards consistently podium finishes, I would get something similar to what comes on an average bike. It is not worth it to me to finish in 38th place as opposed to 44th...just my 2 cents.

As far as sweating. I start sweating just getting out bed...

Originally posted by firebert Another bike question for you guys... I'm not going to change wheels now, but the cracks forming in the rear rim have me looking. As near as I can tell the weight for my wheelset (Bontrager Race - not Race Lite, Race X Lite, etc.) is around 1750g. They're a shallow V, and the super cool looking Rolf designed 'double spoke' lacing pattern. I'm going to need to replace at least the rear, but I'd prefer a matching set....what are my options? I'm not terribly heavy (currently 167lb/76kg/just under 12 stone for any brits) so I'm not worried about load for my wheels to support (aka don't really want Askiums). I don't want to think too hard about budget - if I had a grand, I'd get Flos and be done with it - I'm absolutely sold on those. But, I don't have a grand... I'm willing to go up some weight for something more aero if there's a benefit, but really don't want to feel like I'm riding through sludge - I love how easily my bike accelerates. BTW I've tried searching the general forum for this, but the search function....leaves a lot to be desired. It either comes back with no results, or 2,431 pages of results.

2015-07-09 12:51 PM
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That is just sick...go to your room!

Originally posted by Moonrocket A scary thought popped in my head while running this morning. I was actually enjoying it. Crazy!

2015-07-09 12:57 PM
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Cadence is personal...paying attention to it with lots of ride and you will find your sweet spot! More about self awareness when cycling.

The biggest thing about cadence is a lot of people burn too much with lower cadences mashing the pedals.

I know you are on a tight budget but you can get a wired cadence at a pretty reasonable price...

$50 and I am sure you could probably find a wee bit cheaper.

http://www.rei.com/product/751831/cateye-strada-cadence-bike-computer#tab-specs

Nice job on the PR/ride-that is worth a couple of beers!

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Originally posted by adempsey10

Originally posted by Qua17  But the high cadence count seems to be helping. Any suggestions on how to refine it?? Right now I'm averaging 85 - 90. I don't have a counter and can't afford one but I just want to see if I can keep working on refining what seems like a very helpful skill.

That's a great cadence range. A good way to increase cadence and pedalling technique is to do spin drills. Spin as fast as you can (without excessive bouncing) in an easy gear for 20 seconds. Rest 1 min and do it again. That'll help with overall leg speed. 

Alan - I will try this drill. I'm noticing two things when it comes to cadence - I need to work on improving my upstroke. 98% of the time I'm not even aware of it - but I know that this is something I need to work on. Also, I notice a clanging sound usually when one of my feet is at the top of the arc - which makes me think that my stroke is uneven - not only in terms of the upstroke but also in comparison to the work that my left and right legs are doing. I got hit by a car and broke my femur when I was 13 and that limits the power on my left side. Any thoughts on how I could equalize it in order to smooth the entire revolution?



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I want to make a comment on the your riding route but I think I would end up sounding like a dirty old man.

Originally posted by Qua17 Here's a pick of my Heidi's

2015-07-09 12:59 PM
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Jenn, I can't wait to hear about your ride with the iron cowboy!

Have a great time!!

2015-07-09 1:00 PM
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Thor, haven't you podium'd? Jussayin :lol:

I'm not really looking for seconds, mostly what I'm trying to avoid is changing the feel of what I have now. The bike rides great with the Bontrager Race wheelset it came with. The rim has cracks, they don't make the wheelset I have or replacement rims any more, so I can't just buy a factory replacement.

Originally posted by thor67

The end of the day, most of us are buying the wheelset for looks. Unless you are edging towards consistently podium finishes, I would get something similar to what comes on an average bike. It is not worth it to me to finish in 38th place as opposed to 44th...just my 2 cents.

As far as sweating. I start sweating just getting out bed...

Originally posted by firebert Another bike question for you guys... I'm not going to change wheels now, but the cracks forming in the rear rim have me looking. As near as I can tell the weight for my wheelset (Bontrager Race - not Race Lite, Race X Lite, etc.) is around 1750g. They're a shallow V, and the super cool looking Rolf designed 'double spoke' lacing pattern. I'm going to need to replace at least the rear, but I'd prefer a matching set....what are my options? I'm not terribly heavy (currently 167lb/76kg/just under 12 stone for any brits) so I'm not worried about load for my wheels to support (aka don't really want Askiums). I don't want to think too hard about budget - if I had a grand, I'd get Flos and be done with it - I'm absolutely sold on those. But, I don't have a grand... I'm willing to go up some weight for something more aero if there's a benefit, but really don't want to feel like I'm riding through sludge - I love how easily my bike accelerates. BTW I've tried searching the general forum for this, but the search function....leaves a lot to be desired. It either comes back with no results, or 2,431 pages of results.


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Originally posted by Qua17  Alan - I will try this drill. I'm noticing two things when it comes to cadence - I need to work on improving my upstroke. 98% of the time I'm not even aware of it - but I know that this is something I need to work on. Also, I notice a clanging sound usually when one of my feet is at the top of the arc - which makes me think that my stroke is uneven - not only in terms of the upstroke but also in comparison to the work that my left and right legs are doing. I got hit by a car and broke my femur when I was 13 and that limits the power on my left side. Any thoughts on how I could equalize it in order to smooth the entire revolution?

The best way to develop a smooth pedal stroke is to get a set of rollers. You will discover where your dead spots are. If you don't have rollers. Single leg drills will also work. Unclip one foot and try to pedal as smoothly as you can with the other. You can do it on the road if you're confident in your ability to handle the bike with one leg. Otherwise put it on a trainer. Put a short step stool next to your bike (to rest the unclipped foot on) and do the leg drills like that. 1 minute for each leg and then 1-2 minutes of recovery. 

The only way to really equalize your power is to train the stronger leg to only work at the same rate of the weaker leg and/or develop strength in the weaker leg. Try doing some squats with an unweighted bar centred on your shoulders. The bar will keep you balanced so you're putting out equal power to both legs. It won't help you necessarily improve your pedalling power (only sport specific training can really do that, i.e. riding the bike) but it might help equalize muscle strength. 

I'm no expert in these things though. It might be beneficial to talk to a PT who has experience with cyclists. 

2015-07-09 1:23 PM
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If there is that much time between waves, I would put myself at the back of the first wave. No one in the second will have time to catch you and you can draft faster swimmers. If you go out in any other waves, stay at the front. 




Thank you so much for the help. This feels like a good plan.

I went out yesterday for OWS....the super hot weather here has made the lake DISGUSTING. Very glad I did it, will need to go out again today and then definitely a full practice swim on Saturday. It REALLY took a long time for me to get into a groove at all and I never got to a 1200 nonstop swim which was my goal. I might have hit 400 after I hit a comfort zone but it was getting late by then so I quit. I put in about an hour of swimming, it was just in fits and starts.

Biggest issue is DEFINITELY sighting. I'm able to see just fine swimming, even in really horrid water...apparently I turn my head just enough to allow my good eye to see the skyline. So I can make my way along a sideline just fine. However, when sighting to the front, my overall vision is poor enough that without a LARGE landmark I'm not able to gauge a good straight line. Hopefully this will not be an issue at races and that the buoys are always large (they were at all three of my races last year). But it definitely confirms for me that drafting faster swimmers is a better plan than staying out in front of poorer ones.

Second issue was the damn goggles. Last year they fit beautifully, never an adjustment or a leak. I've been having problems on & off with them, unfortunately I think that because one eye tends to swell, they don't always fit uniformly, causing leaks. And a leak on my good eye is pretty much the end of the story. I think I'll pick up a second set of goggles today just in case.

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Originally posted by firebert Another bike question for you guys... I'm not going to change wheels now, but the cracks forming in the rear rim have me looking. As near as I can tell the weight for my wheelset (Bontrager Race - not Race Lite, Race X Lite, etc.) is around 1750g. They're a shallow V, and the super cool looking Rolf designed 'double spoke' lacing pattern. I'm going to need to replace at least the rear, but I'd prefer a matching set....what are my options? I'm not terribly heavy (currently 167lb/76kg/just under 12 stone for any brits) so I'm not worried about load for my wheels to support (aka don't really want Askiums). I don't want to think too hard about budget - if I had a grand, I'd get Flos and be done with it - I'm absolutely sold on those. But, I don't have a grand... I'm willing to go up some weight for something more aero if there's a benefit, but really don't want to feel like I'm riding through sludge - I love how easily my bike accelerates. BTW I've tried searching the general forum for this, but the search function....leaves a lot to be desired. It either comes back with no results, or 2,431 pages of results.

 

I still recommend Flos. You can get a set of the Flo 30s for around $500. They're more aero than most other 30mm rims but they're also aluminum and very durable. You won't find a better or equivalent set at that price. You can get a set of Shimano A500s for $250 (cad) and they're a solid wheel. A little heavier than what you are currently running but they're durable. That's what I use for training (and weekly races). I've put over 10,000km on them and only needed truing once so far. Other than Flo, you won't get a useful aerodynamic wheel in the price range you're looking. There are certainly 'aero' wheels out there for under $1000 but they'll only look aero, they won't perform aero. 

Originally posted by firebert I'm willing to go up some weight for something more aero if there's a benefit, but really don't want to feel like I'm riding through sludge - I love how easily my bike accelerates.  

I'm going to rant here for a minute. Weight has almost no effect on acceleration compared to aerodynamics. Weight requires a linear increase in power to overcome. i.e. accelerating from 10 to 20kph requires 50 more watts, accelerating from 20 to 30kph requires another 50 watts, 30 to 40kph, another 50 watts etc. (I'm making these numbers up for the sake of the example) Aerodynamic forces require an exponential increase in power. Accelerating from 10 to 20kph requires 50 more watts, accelerating from 20 to 30kph requires 80 more watts, accelerating from 30 to 40kph requires 100 more watts etc. So an aero wheel set, even if heavier, will accelerate better than light weight wheels. The only time a heavier wheel set will 'feel like sludge' is if the wheel is heavier but not more aerodynamic.

Here's a thing I wrote about aerodynamics and weight: https://raceontario.wordpress.com/2015/04/30/aerodynamics-debunking-the-myths/
Here's another thing I wrote about buying wheels: https://raceontario.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/buyers-guide-wheels/

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Originally posted by firebert On the topic of cadence- either I'm really lucky, or I've spent way too much time in spin class. My first class the teacher gave me the particulars on RPM - slow/hill climb shouldn't go below 45 RPM, steady riding should be about 90 RPM, and sprints are 110-120. These are pretty general of course, but they've stuck with me. My flat road ride just settles in naturally around 90 RPM. I'd love to get a cadence sensor for my bike to see if it really is that on the road.

This is one of the first times I've ever heard a spin class instructor do something that would actually be beneficial for outdoor cycling. Most of the time spin classes are nothing more than bad habit formers for roadies. Is this class targeted to road cyclists? 

The only thing I would correct is that on a climb you want to maintain your cadence as best as you can. It shouldn't drop too much. If it does, it's time to rethink your gearing choices. When I go up hill I tend to increase my cadence. And I would never recommend going lower than 60rpm. If you ride at 90rpm, try to stay above 75 uphill and ideally stay in the 85-90 range if you have the gears for it. 

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Only because I enter the vertigo impaired, drunken,  one legged, one arm,  flat tire, over weight category.(I apologize if I have offended any blind, one.....overweight people...)

Here you go:

http://www.rei.com/product/867784/mavic-aksium-s-wheel-front

or

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_572364_-1___[Ljava.lang.String;@53875387

 

Originally posted by firebert Thor, haven't you podium'd? Jussayin :lol: I'm not really looking for seconds, mostly what I'm trying to avoid is changing the feel of what I have now. The bike rides great with the Bontrager Race wheelset it came with. The rim has cracks, they don't make the wheelset I have or replacement rims any more, so I can't just buy a factory replacement.
Originally posted by thor67

The end of the day, most of us are buying the wheelset for looks. Unless you are edging towards consistently podium finishes, I would get something similar to what comes on an average bike. It is not worth it to me to finish in 38th place as opposed to 44th...just my 2 cents.

As far as sweating. I start sweating just getting out bed...

Originally posted by firebert Another bike question for you guys... I'm not going to change wheels now, but the cracks forming in the rear rim have me looking. As near as I can tell the weight for my wheelset (Bontrager Race - not Race Lite, Race X Lite, etc.) is around 1750g. They're a shallow V, and the super cool looking Rolf designed 'double spoke' lacing pattern. I'm going to need to replace at least the rear, but I'd prefer a matching set....what are my options? I'm not terribly heavy (currently 167lb/76kg/just under 12 stone for any brits) so I'm not worried about load for my wheels to support (aka don't really want Askiums). I don't want to think too hard about budget - if I had a grand, I'd get Flos and be done with it - I'm absolutely sold on those. But, I don't have a grand... I'm willing to go up some weight for something more aero if there's a benefit, but really don't want to feel like I'm riding through sludge - I love how easily my bike accelerates. BTW I've tried searching the general forum for this, but the search function....leaves a lot to be desired. It either comes back with no results, or 2,431 pages of results.



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This is one of the first times I've ever heard a spin class instructor do something that would actually be beneficial for outdoor cycling. Most of the time spin classes are nothing more than bad habit formers for roadies. Is this class targeted to road cyclists? 

The only thing I would correct is that on a climb you want to maintain your cadence as best as you can. It shouldn't drop too much. If it does, it's time to rethink your gearing choices. When I go up hill I tend to increase my cadence. And I would never recommend going lower than 60rpm. If you ride at 90rpm, try to stay above 75 uphill and ideally stay in the 85-90 range if you have the gears for it. 




THANK YOU!

Why do you say spin classes are bad habit formers? Just asking out of curiosity, I've never taken a spin class (BORING), but was trying to talk myself into it on the off season to stay in condition. Sounds like that might not be a good idea?

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Originally posted by sandishr
Originally posted by adempsey10

This is one of the first times I've ever heard a spin class instructor do something that would actually be beneficial for outdoor cycling. Most of the time spin classes are nothing more than bad habit formers for roadies. Is this class targeted to road cyclists? 

The only thing I would correct is that on a climb you want to maintain your cadence as best as you can. It shouldn't drop too much. If it does, it's time to rethink your gearing choices. When I go up hill I tend to increase my cadence. And I would never recommend going lower than 60rpm. If you ride at 90rpm, try to stay above 75 uphill and ideally stay in the 85-90 range if you have the gears for it. 

THANK YOU! Why do you say spin classes are bad habit formers? Just asking out of curiosity, I've never taken a spin class (BORING), but was trying to talk myself into it on the off season to stay in condition. Sounds like that might not be a good idea? Sandi

Most spin classes are designed to be 'full body' workouts so they have you do silly drills where you lean forward over the handlebars or lean way back, or pedal absurdly slow with a lot of resistance or other such nonsense. These things might help work the core and shoulders and what not but they're terrible for learning how to properly ride a road bike. Spin classes put you in positions that are intentionally inefficient in order to increase the workout (at least that's the logic) so you develop bad riding position. A pretty good indicator of a bad spin instructor is if they get you to pedal backwards.... never do it. 

There are spin classes that are designed specifically for roadies who want to do a trainer ride with other people. Those would be beneficial. Most spin classes are designed for the average fitness buff and pay no heed to what is beneficial or useful for cyclists. 



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Originally posted by sandishr Biggest issue is DEFINITELY sighting. I'm able to see just fine swimming, even in really horrid water...apparently I turn my head just enough to allow my good eye to see the skyline. So I can make my way along a sideline just fine. However, when sighting to the front, my overall vision is poor enough that without a LARGE landmark I'm not able to gauge a good straight line. Hopefully this will not be an issue at races and that the buoys are always large (they were at all three of my races last year). But it definitely confirms for me that drafting faster swimmers is a better plan than staying out in front of poorer ones. Second issue was the damn goggles. Last year they fit beautifully, never an adjustment or a leak. I've been having problems on & off with them, unfortunately I think that because one eye tends to swell, they don't always fit uniformly, causing leaks. And a leak on my good eye is pretty much the end of the story. I think I'll pick up a second set of goggles today just in case. Sandi

Sighting is my issue too. When I did IMMT I ended up swimming almost a km more than I needed to because I swam in a zigzag pattern. 

 

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The key to a good spin class is to marry the instructor....my wife teaches spin classes.

That being said, at the end of the day I just do what works for me and ignore instructor(that is not my wife....). I do not hop around or any of the other rigmarole.

Of course if the class is not part of your tri training, feel free to do what makes you happy.

Off topic but a class that has been pretty popular with the female members and good for your leg strength is Barre. Good for guys too but there may be some awkward exercises...

 

Originally posted by adempsey10

Originally posted by sandishr
Originally posted by adempsey10

This is one of the first times I've ever heard a spin class instructor do something that would actually be beneficial for outdoor cycling. Most of the time spin classes are nothing more than bad habit formers for roadies. Is this class targeted to road cyclists? 

The only thing I would correct is that on a climb you want to maintain your cadence as best as you can. It shouldn't drop too much. If it does, it's time to rethink your gearing choices. When I go up hill I tend to increase my cadence. And I would never recommend going lower than 60rpm. If you ride at 90rpm, try to stay above 75 uphill and ideally stay in the 85-90 range if you have the gears for it. 

THANK YOU! Why do you say spin classes are bad habit formers? Just asking out of curiosity, I've never taken a spin class (BORING), but was trying to talk myself into it on the off season to stay in condition. Sounds like that might not be a good idea? Sandi

Most spin classes are designed to be 'full body' workouts so they have you do silly drills where you lean forward over the handlebars or lean way back, or pedal absurdly slow with a lot of resistance or other such nonsense. These things might help work the core and shoulders and what not but they're terrible for learning how to properly ride a road bike. Spin classes put you in positions that are intentionally inefficient in order to increase the workout (at least that's the logic) so you develop bad riding position. A pretty good indicator of a bad spin instructor is if they get you to pedal backwards.... never do it. 

There are spin classes that are designed specifically for roadies who want to do a trainer ride with other people. Those would be beneficial. Most spin classes are designed for the average fitness buff and pay no heed to what is beneficial or useful for cyclists. 

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On tap for this weekend so far from Arrowhead, a local brewery in Invermere, BC:

1)I've Been Thinking About Getting the Band Back Together(longest beer name ever)

India Session Ale, 5.5%, IBU 45

This beer is perfect for those that love IPAs, but want to drink more than one in a sitting. It's got a good hop flavour, but it's much more subtle at an IBU of 40. The low ABV makes this beer perfectly sessionable. 

2)I'm so Freaking Hoppy

Imperial IPA, 7.3%, IBU 75

This IPA has a perfect balance for a beer of this strength and complexity. It’s perfectly carbonated, golden-orange in colour with a thick, ivory head. The hops explode with flavour followed by notes of grapefruit and orange.

3)Loud Mouth Soup-not sure about this one. It might be a sampler then decide.

Double IPA, 9%, IBU 93

Our double IPA has a big, explosive hop flavour. It's brewed with a sh&t ton of hops and a sh&t ton of malt. Miraculously enough, this beer came out hoppy and flavourful, without being super sweet. 

2015-07-09 3:37 PM
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Originally posted by Moonrocket

A scary thought popped in my head while running this morning. I was actually enjoying it. Crazy!

It can happen! Usually my first mile is "Why am I doing this??". Halfway through mile 2 the early thoughts are gone then somewhere in mile 3+ I realize I'm just breezing along and enjoying the run. 

Got (mostly) caught up with the threads, I'm still amazed at how active, supportive, and helpful this group is. Keep it up!

Updates from me: Mostly running and swimming with some bike commuting mixed in. On the 4th of July I helped my open water swimming group as they did a 1.75 mile "3 pier" swim . I was the lead paddler on my SUP and the conditions were excellent, overcast with the bare hint of a breeze. Once we made it to the 3rd pier I turned around and paddled back to the first pier (where my car was parked) for a round trip of about 3 miles. Wildlife encounters include a humpback whale, dive bombing pelicans (while we cut through a bait-ball), and a surly look from an otter as I went through a kelp bed.

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