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2013-06-18 9:29 AM
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Originally posted by Muskrat37 Finished truing my wheels and did the re-wrap of the handlebars today.  There will be cycling and running tomorrow!  

Great news!  The blue tape looks fantastic on the bike! 



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Originally posted by StaceyK Ok everyone to make the JOGO spreadsheet much much much easier and less time consuming for Joanne can I make the suggestion that if you are participating in the JOGO on Thursday night or Friday morning you post your over all totals here in the pod so that she doesn't have to stalk through everyone's log and 100 pages of our conversations about napping, yoga and swimming. So for example I would just post: JOGO 15 from 17 or something along tode lines. Seeing how I am the first one (a part from Jo) to hit Friday morning I will post mine as a reminder to everyone else.

Better yet, INSPIRE Jogo every few days with your update. See?

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So, after that track workout on Saturday, I am very aware of how difficult the 3K is going to be. I seriously think that something I need to work on is having a bit more of a competitive attitude and pushing myself a little harder. If that hike was any kind of indicator on what kind of pain I can tolerate when forced to.

Anyway, one of my teammates is also running the 3K. She is more experienced than me and races a touch faster than I, and trains MUCH faster than I do (if that makes sense.)

She said she thinks I am capable of keeping up with her in the 3K. She was planning on running it faster than I was. But her comments have me thinking maybe I should just tuck in behind her and try and hang on and push myself way out of my comfort zone. I mean, it's a 3K and means nothing other than it's something new I want to try. So who cares if I "fail"?

I bet your competitiveness is in there, oh yes, it's in there.

How much faster was your friend planning on running?  Tucking in behind her is, IMHO, a brilliant strategy, and one that very experienced runners would use.  So there.  Look at you:) Even if you could easily lead the pack, you don't want to, not until the very end.

At the end of the 3K if your legs feel like they're detached from your lower body and your running feels completely uncoordinated for the last 150m, you've run a good race.

I'm excited for you:)

*Edited because spending so much time on the internet is making me a terrible writer.  I swear I'm educated, but I keep effing up my your/you're and their/there/they'res.  Be patient with me pod.

Approximately 3-4 seconds a quarter faster

I was thinking about your race on my bike ride this morning.  I thought I might throw out an alternative strategy.  12-16 seconds/mile is some time, not insurmountable time, but not negligible either.  It's in the damn grey area.  2 sec/quarter and I'd say tuck in behind.  But I also don't know how you have picked your pace and how she's picked hers. 

It's really easy for this race to go out too fast.  Really easy.  3000m is long enough that if you go out too fast and blow up, it's tough to recover.  Another approach might be to purposefully dial back the first 800 (so you don't get caught up in the outta the gate cray cray) a couple sec slower than your goal quarter pace, then hit it right on for the next 1600, then negative split the rest if you can.  Those people who have gone out too fast are going to be mentally fragile (that self doubt is uber present at threshold), if you go by them strong in the last 200m, it will be very hard for them to hold you off, and you'll have less time in the doubt zone.

And now I'll shut up.  I want you to know that all of this unsolicited advice is from someone who's slower than you, so, meh, take it for what it's worth :)  Good luck Salty.



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2013-06-18 9:41 AM
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Quick update on a couple friends/issues that many of you had so many kind thoughts about ...

The suicidal friend, she's still in a really dark place but continues to reach out, is trying to get help, and we are helping her. So that, I think, is the ray of light; she realizes she's at the bottom of the pit so she is looking up.

My closest friend in Bali, the one who lashed out at me when I called to ask him how he was and to tell him I care (and he and all of you and pretty much any random stranger who's even met me in the last two months knows what a tough time it's been for me, myself) ... I had a spare couple minutes and found some info/contacts he'd been looking for. I was going to send him the links on FB and found that he'd unfriended me.

Ouch.

I gotta let him go, keep praying for him (this is for my own release and sanity as well as genuinely still loving him), and understand that when some of us are in a bad spot, we do badly. I know I have. I also know here it's him, not me. Letting myself feel sad (huge understatement), letting him go.

2013-06-18 9:47 AM
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Quick update on a couple friends/issues that many of you had so many kind thoughts about ...

The suicidal friend, she's still in a really dark place but continues to reach out, is trying to get help, and we are helping her. So that, I think, is the ray of light; she realizes she's at the bottom of the pit so she is looking up.

My closest friend in Bali, the one who lashed out at me when I called to ask him how he was and to tell him I care (and he and all of you and pretty much any random stranger who's even met me in the last two months knows what a tough time it's been for me, myself) ... I had a spare couple minutes and found some info/contacts he'd been looking for. I was going to send him the links on FB and found that he'd unfriended me.

Ouch.

I gotta let him go, keep praying for him (this is for my own release and sanity as well as genuinely still loving him), and understand that when some of us are in a bad spot, we do badly. I know I have. I also know here it's him, not me. Letting myself feel sad (huge understatement), letting him go.

Hugs to you special Yanti.  It is so hard to let go of someone you love like that.  I have two friends I still yearn for in this way.  It's a very deep hurt.  I'm sorry that you're feeling that right now.  Let yourself crawl into bed and sob it out if you need to.

2013-06-18 9:54 AM
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Originally posted by TriAya

Quick update on a couple friends/issues that many of you had so many kind thoughts about ...

The suicidal friend, she's still in a really dark place but continues to reach out, is trying to get help, and we are helping her. So that, I think, is the ray of light; she realizes she's at the bottom of the pit so she is looking up.

My closest friend in Bali, the one who lashed out at me when I called to ask him how he was and to tell him I care (and he and all of you and pretty much any random stranger who's even met me in the last two months knows what a tough time it's been for me, myself) ... I had a spare couple minutes and found some info/contacts he'd been looking for. I was going to send him the links on FB and found that he'd unfriended me.

Ouch.

I gotta let him go, keep praying for him (this is for my own release and sanity as well as genuinely still loving him), and understand that when some of us are in a bad spot, we do badly. I know I have. I also know here it's him, not me. Letting myself feel sad (huge understatement), letting him go.

Hugs to you special Yanti.  It is so hard to let go of someone you love like that.  I have two friends I still yearn for in this way.  It's a very deep hurt.  I'm sorry that you're feeling that right now.  Let yourself crawl into bed and sob it out if you need to.

Rats.

That's exactly what I've been doing.

Alternating with imagining whacking him with a tennis racket, especially so it leaves bizarre waffle marks all over him, but what the hey. Good thing I don't own any rackets.



2013-06-18 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by TriAya

Quick update on a couple friends/issues that many of you had so many kind thoughts about ...

The suicidal friend, she's still in a really dark place but continues to reach out, is trying to get help, and we are helping her. So that, I think, is the ray of light; she realizes she's at the bottom of the pit so she is looking up.

My closest friend in Bali, the one who lashed out at me when I called to ask him how he was and to tell him I care (and he and all of you and pretty much any random stranger who's even met me in the last two months knows what a tough time it's been for me, myself) ... I had a spare couple minutes and found some info/contacts he'd been looking for. I was going to send him the links on FB and found that he'd unfriended me.

Ouch.

I gotta let him go, keep praying for him (this is for my own release and sanity as well as genuinely still loving him), and understand that when some of us are in a bad spot, we do badly. I know I have. I also know here it's him, not me. Letting myself feel sad (huge understatement), letting him go.

I'm so happy and relieved to hear that your friend is reaching out for help.  It's entirely too easy in that situation to shut yourself off from anyone else, and the fact that she realizes that she not only needs help, but also has friends around that can and want to help is a good, good thing.

As for the other person - letting go can be the hardest thing to do, but you also have to remember that this was HIS decision, and HIS action in response to how HE felt. 

You are loved beyond belief, so please also remember that too.   

2013-06-18 10:20 AM
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In the cool news category... this is what we've been doing all the patents for at work lately - which I happen to think is VERY cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcw6j-QWGMo

2013-06-18 10:31 AM
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Aaand ... just because I'm a masochist (aren't we all, a bit? This is a requirement for crazy endurance sports, yes? ) ...

I also gave up the perfect man this weekend. By that I mean ... all the inside and outside things are perfect, we get along perfectly well, we're mad about each other and it was a love-at-first-sight thing a few years ago and has been going on since (it's complicated ... and he was living with a legal partner at the time and I saw other people in between). He brought his daughter to Bali to meet me, she's been back since, and we are great pals and keep in touch better than her dad and I do sometimes!

The deal was that he would wait for his daughter to graduate high school, then he'd move to Bali. In the meanwhile, yes, I'd be waiting for him, but not locked-in-a-castle waiting and this was understood.

Anyway, he did separate from his partner (legally and physically) and his daughter is ending high school in December. And I realized as I was waiting for him at the marathon finish line on Sunday (having just done the half) that this may be the right man and the right relationship but right now it's the wrong circumstances. I'm heartbroken, but I just can't follow through with this commitment. I feel terrible about it but he's a terrific guy (of course) and all is well.

It just feels like another heavy loss right now.

It's just as well, though ... two idiots who power through races regardless of training or injuries sustained, and whom, when they get together, somehow always get involved in a police chase on a motorbike ... yeah, maybe it's better that I put this one off for a while. Such a pity to sacrifice a pretty piglet who's a dead ringer for Daniel Craig, though.

2013-06-18 10:37 AM
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Yanti . . . . huge hugs.
2013-06-18 10:39 AM
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Iced coffee in hand early this morning! Gotta start cooling off as soon as I wake up these days.

Yoga is back into my summer schedule as of 11am today. YEEEEEESSSSS Laughing Been missing it for months.



2013-06-18 10:40 AM
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I finally realized that I could take a picture of my bike for the bike gallery with my webcam. (face palm) But I'm still too stupid to figure out how to get the image to be un-mirror. oh, well. Here it is. My baby.

2013-06-18 10:42 AM
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And now, I have a date with Mr. Jay Gatsby. (swoon). 11:20 showing, a 10 minute walk away. I am giddy.
2013-06-18 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

In the cool news category... this is what we've been doing all the patents for at work lately - which I happen to think is VERY cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcw6j-QWGMo

So cool! BA ROONS! Who doesn't ruv those?

I had heard about this, and also about the balloon project regarding global warming. Fascinating stuff. Only related by balloon involvement, but still.

2013-06-18 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by TriAya

Aaand ... just because I'm a masochist (aren't we all, a bit? This is a requirement for crazy endurance sports, yes? ) ...

I also gave up the perfect man this weekend. By that I mean ... all the inside and outside things are perfect, we get along perfectly well, we're mad about each other and it was a love-at-first-sight thing a few years ago and has been going on since (it's complicated ... and he was living with a legal partner at the time and I saw other people in between). He brought his daughter to Bali to meet me, she's been back since, and we are great pals and keep in touch better than her dad and I do sometimes!

The deal was that he would wait for his daughter to graduate high school, then he'd move to Bali. In the meanwhile, yes, I'd be waiting for him, but not locked-in-a-castle waiting and this was understood.

Anyway, he did separate from his partner (legally and physically) and his daughter is ending high school in December. And I realized as I was waiting for him at the marathon finish line on Sunday (having just done the half) that this may be the right man and the right relationship but right now it's the wrong circumstances. I'm heartbroken, but I just can't follow through with this commitment. I feel terrible about it but he's a terrific guy (of course) and all is well.

It just feels like another heavy loss right now.

It's just as well, though ... two idiots who power through races regardless of training or injuries sustained, and whom, when they get together, somehow always get involved in a police chase on a motorbike ... yeah, maybe it's better that I put this one off for a while. Such a pity to sacrifice a pretty piglet who's a dead ringer for Daniel Craig, though.

Awwww, Doll    Do you have to say "Not ever"..."Not now" won't suffice?  YOU waited for him.

And I really wanted to make a 007 reference on FB a few days ago. Wink

2013-06-18 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by KansasMom Yanti . . . . huge hugs.

x2, or however many you would like. You are loved.



2013-06-18 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

In the cool news category... this is what we've been doing all the patents for at work lately - which I happen to think is VERY cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcw6j-QWGMo




A network in the sky, hmmmm, could've called it SkyNet, but then that was taken and probably has negative connections Wonder if they've built in an automatic shut down for solar flares, like satellites do.
2013-06-18 11:06 AM
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Awwww, Doll    Do you have to say "Not ever"..."Not now" won't suffice?  YOU waited for him.

And I really wanted to make a 007 reference on FB a few days ago. Wink

It's definitely not "never" and we are still super friends. I have a feeling this will come together later in life. Just not now. Too too too much. Too many responsibilities. And he really understands that.

Glad you saw the resemblance! Especially in person it's eerie.

Actually in the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (that would be me) movie, with the pseudo-Swedish but generically Nordic accent, he IS Sven.

2013-06-18 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by TriAya

Aaand ... just because I'm a masochist (aren't we all, a bit? This is a requirement for crazy endurance sports, yes? ) ...

I also gave up the perfect man this weekend. By that I mean ... all the inside and outside things are perfect, we get along perfectly well, we're mad about each other and it was a love-at-first-sight thing a few years ago and has been going on since (it's complicated ... and he was living with a legal partner at the time and I saw other people in between). He brought his daughter to Bali to meet me, she's been back since, and we are great pals and keep in touch better than her dad and I do sometimes!

The deal was that he would wait for his daughter to graduate high school, then he'd move to Bali. In the meanwhile, yes, I'd be waiting for him, but not locked-in-a-castle waiting and this was understood.

Anyway, he did separate from his partner (legally and physically) and his daughter is ending high school in December. And I realized as I was waiting for him at the marathon finish line on Sunday (having just done the half) that this may be the right man and the right relationship but right now it's the wrong circumstances. I'm heartbroken, but I just can't follow through with this commitment. I feel terrible about it but he's a terrific guy (of course) and all is well.

It just feels like another heavy loss right now.

It's just as well, though ... two idiots who power through races regardless of training or injuries sustained, and whom, when they get together, somehow always get involved in a police chase on a motorbike ... yeah, maybe it's better that I put this one off for a while. Such a pity to sacrifice a pretty piglet who's a dead ringer for Daniel Craig, though.

Yanti - if he's the right person, the right circumstances and the right time WILL come along eventually. 

In the meantime, {{{TANGEMELON SNUGGLES}}} for you. 

2013-06-18 11:09 AM
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I finally realized that I could take a picture of my bike for the bike gallery with my webcam. (face palm) But I'm still too stupid to figure out how to get the image to be un-mirror. oh, well. Here it is. My baby.

It has been added to the gallery!

2013-06-18 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by KansasMom Yanti . . . . huge hugs.

x2, or however many you would like. You are loved.

{{{{MANATEE MELON PILE!!!}}}}}



2013-06-18 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by TriAya
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

In the cool news category... this is what we've been doing all the patents for at work lately - which I happen to think is VERY cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcw6j-QWGMo

So cool! BA ROONS! Who doesn't ruv those?

I had heard about this, and also about the balloon project regarding global warming. Fascinating stuff. Only related by balloon involvement, but still.

At first I was all "why the heck are they calling it 'Project Loon'?  Are they all crazy maniacs or not right in the head or something?"  Yeah, today isn't a smart day for me.  Undecided

2013-06-18 11:11 AM
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I finally realized that I could take a picture of my bike for the bike gallery with my webcam. (face palm) But I'm still too stupid to figure out how to get the image to be un-mirror. oh, well. Here it is. My baby.

Ooooh - I lof shiny, purdy things!!  What kind of wheels are on that bad-azz machine? 

2013-06-18 11:26 AM
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So, after that track workout on Saturday, I am very aware of how difficult the 3K is going to be. I seriously think that something I need to work on is having a bit more of a competitive attitude and pushing myself a little harder. If that hike was any kind of indicator on what kind of pain I can tolerate when forced to.

Anyway, one of my teammates is also running the 3K. She is more experienced than me and races a touch faster than I, and trains MUCH faster than I do (if that makes sense.)

She said she thinks I am capable of keeping up with her in the 3K. She was planning on running it faster than I was. But her comments have me thinking maybe I should just tuck in behind her and try and hang on and push myself way out of my comfort zone. I mean, it's a 3K and means nothing other than it's something new I want to try. So who cares if I "fail"?

I bet your competitiveness is in there, oh yes, it's in there.

How much faster was your friend planning on running?  Tucking in behind her is, IMHO, a brilliant strategy, and one that very experienced runners would use.  So there.  Look at you Even if you could easily lead the pack, you don't want to, not until the very end.

At the end of the 3K if your legs feel like they're detached from your lower body and your running feels completely uncoordinated for the last 150m, you've run a good race.

I'm excited for you

*Edited because spending so much time on the internet is making me a terrible writer.  I swear I'm educated, but I keep effing up my your/you're and their/there/they'res.  Be patient with me pod.

Approximately 3-4 seconds a quarter faster

I was thinking about your race on my bike ride this morning.  I thought I might throw out an alternative strategy.  12-16 seconds/mile is some time, not insurmountable time, but not negligible either.  It's in the damn grey area.  2 sec/quarter and I'd say tuck in behind.  But I also don't know how you have picked your pace and how she's picked hers. 

It's really easy for this race to go out too fast.  Really easy.  3000m is long enough that if you go out too fast and blow up, it's tough to recover.  Another approach might be to purposefully dial back the first 800 (so you don't get caught up in the outta the gate cray cray) a couple sec slower than your goal quarter pace, then hit it right on for the next 1600, then negative split the rest if you can.  Those people who have gone out too fast are going to be mentally fragile (that self doubt is uber present at threshold), if you go by them strong in the last 200m, it will be very hard for them to hold you off, and you'll have less time in the doubt zone.

And now I'll shut up.  I want you to know that all of this unsolicited advice is from someone who's slower than you, so, meh, take it for what it's worth   Good luck Salty.

I totally agree with your strategy and that is how I would ideally like to run a race like this.

And actually, that is exactly the strategy I would use any other time. I was just thinking that it might be good for me to just hang on as long as I can and maybe surprise myself. 

As I said, she has more experience than me and trains in the faster group (meaning she does nearly all of her training runs faster than I do, within every category) but our race times are very close. We're talking about a minute apart for the half marathon and just seconds apart in the 5K

 

But then there are some other factors. I am in the midst of tri training, so my running is sort of on the back burner AND I am still pretty sore from the hike. I'm hoping to be a little more recovered tomorrow Sealed

 

But I do really appreciate your insight and you are definitely thinking along the same lines as I am. I've just got some decisions to make. 

2013-06-18 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by TriAya
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

In the cool news category... this is what we've been doing all the patents for at work lately - which I happen to think is VERY cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcw6j-QWGMo

So cool! BA ROONS! Who doesn't ruv those?

I had heard about this, and also about the balloon project regarding global warming. Fascinating stuff. Only related by balloon involvement, but still.

At first I was all "why the heck are they calling it 'Project Loon'?  Are they all crazy maniacs or not right in the head or something?"  Yeah, today isn't a smart day for me.  Undecided

And you from a country where EVERYBODY wants loonies and twonies ...

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