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2008-04-21 11:16 AM
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Check the specs. The 54 and the 51 have the same top tube length. I think you'll be fine.


2008-04-21 11:52 AM
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Woo hooo! Just ordered my parma today. We're going to do a road trip to pick it up. Excellent!
2008-04-21 6:43 PM
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I left a message for Dave this afternoon. hopefully they still have something in my size.

i also have the opt to buy a used specialized roubaix elite for about $800. does anybody know anything about those? i know nothing about road bikes.

2008-04-21 6:44 PM
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Woohoo! The wife's Sizzano is in today. Put it together at lunchtime, going to drop it at the LBS for a tuneup and get her fit on Weds.
2008-04-22 3:12 PM
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My Parma came in today... brought it to a recommended LBS. The guy looked at it, said "never heard of Javelin" and then proceeded to tell me not to get my hopes up but that he might take it in trade "on a good road bike" once he has put it together. Then he asked me how much I paid and went on a small rant about people selling "boxed bikes that the distributors aren't supposed to allow that way".



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2008-04-22 3:52 PM
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Bah, my Narni came in today, but I wasn't home, nor will I be home for the next few attempts...

On that note, I'm going to be picking mine up at the FedEx pickup location... which sucks.

Anybody know if the bike box would possibly fit in a Honda Accord or Mitsubishi Eclipse trunk?


2008-04-22 3:59 PM
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chadtower - 2008-04-22 3:12 PM

My Parma came in today... brought it to a recommended LBS. The guy looked at it, said "never heard of Javelin" and then proceeded to tell me not to get my hopes up but that he might take it in trade "on a good road bike" once he has put it together. Then he asked me how much I paid and went on a small rant about people selling "boxed bikes that the distributors aren't supposed to allow that way".



LBS sounds all kinds of bitter. I hate bike shops w/attitude. If he hasn't heard of Javelin and he sells bikes then he's an idiot. I'd heard of them and I don't sell bikes...
2008-04-22 4:01 PM
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bboston88 - 2008-04-22 3:59 PM

chadtower - 2008-04-22 3:12 PM

My Parma came in today... brought it to a recommended LBS. The guy looked at it, said "never heard of Javelin" and then proceeded to tell me not to get my hopes up but that he might take it in trade "on a good road bike" once he has put it together. Then he asked me how much I paid and went on a small rant about people selling "boxed bikes that the distributors aren't supposed to allow that way".



LBS sounds all kinds of bitter. I hate bike shops w/attitude. If he hasn't heard of Javelin and he sells bikes then he's an idiot. I'd heard of them and I don't sell bikes...


x2, I've heard of Javelin, and I've always thought they were of the better brands! I like my Trek 1500 and all, but I'm freakin stoked about the Narni that I have to go pick up at FedEx!
2008-04-22 4:04 PM
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kevmk81 - 2008-04-22 4:52 PM Bah, my Narni came in today, but I wasn't home, nor will I be home for the next few attempts... On that note, I'm going to be picking mine up at the FedEx pickup location... which sucks. Anybody know if the bike box would possibly fit in a Honda Accord or Mitsubishi Eclipse trunk?

It's a decently big box, but if you unwrap it carefully, toss the box (or fold it up for later use) it definitely will fit. 

2008-04-22 4:05 PM
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chadtower - 2008-04-22 4:12 PM My Parma came in today... brought it to a recommended LBS. The guy looked at it, said "never heard of Javelin" and then proceeded to tell me not to get my hopes up but that he might take it in trade "on a good road bike" once he has put it together. Then he asked me how much I paid and went on a small rant about people selling "boxed bikes that the distributors aren't supposed to allow that way".

Not quite sure which distributors he is talking about, since Javelin is the maker and the distributor. I recommend, without knowing anything else about the LBS, that you find another one.

2008-04-22 6:24 PM
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chadtower - 2008-04-22 4:12 PM My Parma came in today... brought it to a recommended LBS. The guy looked at it, said "never heard of Javelin" and then proceeded to tell me not to get my hopes up but that he might take it in trade "on a good road bike" once he has put it together. Then he asked me how much I paid and went on a small rant about people selling "boxed bikes that the distributors aren't supposed to allow that way".

Not quite sure which distributors he is talking about, since Javelin is the maker and the distributor. I recommend, without knowing anything else about the LBS, that you find another one.




X2 I would be worried that he might make a "mistake" when he assembles it.


2008-04-22 7:10 PM
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Standing, I have about half an inch clearance over the top tube on my 51 Varese at 5'4.5". Boy, am I lucky. Another half inch and I'd be in real trouble.
2008-04-23 11:51 AM
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Woohoo, mine is in my car waiting for me to get out of work! Picked it up at FedEx this morning and had to take it out of the box.

For those of you who have already ridden theirs, did you remove what is on the chain and put your own oil/grease/wax on it, or did you leave what's on the chain from the factory?
2008-04-23 12:04 PM
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kevmk81 - 2008-04-23 11:51 AM Woohoo, mine is in my car waiting for me to get out of work! Picked it up at FedEx this morning and had to take it out of the box. For those of you who have already ridden theirs, did you remove what is on the chain and put your own oil/grease/wax on it, or did you leave what's on the chain from the factory?

That's mixed...some resources will tell you to clean it off and relube, other resources say leave it.   At least that's different info I've found.  I figure, once I take it in for a tune up (which will be soon...wanted to give everything a good chance to stretch) I'll let them do it.

2008-04-23 12:32 PM
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I bought a parma 59. Rides great but it is a little too big. I have posted this in classifieds as well. If anyone got a 55 or 57 and is interested in a trade please let me know.
2008-04-23 12:52 PM
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kevmk81 - 2008-04-23 12:51 PM  For those of you who have already ridden theirs, did you remove what is on the chain and put your own oil/grease/wax on it, or did you leave what's on the chain from the factory?

According to Sheldon Brown (RIP):

Factory Lube

New chains come pre-lubricated with a grease-type lubricant which has been installed at the factory. This is an excellent lubricant, and has been made to permeate all of the internal interstices in the chain.

This factory lube is superior to any lube that you can apply after the fact.

Some people make the bad mistake of deliberately removing this superior lubricant. Don't do this!

The factory lubricant all by itself is usually good for several hundred miles of service if the bike is not ridden in wet or dusty conditions. It is best not to apply any sort of lube to a new chain until it is clearly needed, because any wet lube you can apply will dilute the factory lube.



2008-04-23 2:34 PM
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I just bought the Parma today. I should be picking it up when i get back from school for the semester. Thanks for the info about the sale. I can't wait to start riding it!
2008-04-23 6:40 PM
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scrappy62 - 2008-04-22 7:10 PM

Standing, I have about half an inch clearance over the top tube on my 51 Varese at 5'4.5". Boy, am I lucky. Another half inch and I'd be in real trouble.


How clearance over the top tube is recommended? When I get on my seat, I can't touch the ground with my feet!
2008-04-23 7:22 PM
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I think if your feet can touch the ground while seated (with bike upright) your seats to low, as your leg should only have a slight bend when the pedal is all the way down.
2008-04-23 8:14 PM
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scrappy62 - 2008-04-23 7:40 PM
scrappy62 - 2008-04-22 7:10 PM Standing, I have about half an inch clearance over the top tube on my 51 Varese at 5'4.5". Boy, am I lucky. Another half inch and I'd be in real trouble.
How clearance over the top tube is recommended? When I get on my seat, I can't touch the ground with my feet!

Top tube clearance means nothing and if you can even come close to touching the ground while on the saddle, you're saddle is too low.  A properly adjusted saddle should have you sitting with your feet on the pedal in its lowest position (6 o'clock) with your leg almost fully extended (knee angle approx 150-155 degrees). Another less-exact method to give you a rough estimation of proper saddle height is to sit on the saddle with your pelvis square and leg fully extended straight down with your heel planted on the pedal at 6 o'clock. This should be close to giving you the above angles when you are clipped into your pedals. Remember to make these adjustments while wearing your cycling shoes on, because the stack height of the combined sole and cleat will add to the height of the saddle needed for proper fit.

This may be too technical, but is a part of a series of articles on bike fit: http://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/Seat_height_21.html from which this pic was taken:



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2008-04-23 10:02 PM
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thank you sir!


2008-04-24 12:36 PM
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I just left a message hopefully they still have something left. 2 months is a stretch but who knows. My wife needs a road bike.
2008-04-24 12:45 PM
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Bah. LBS called yesterday, didn't want to put the aerobars on, I told him that's why I brought it to a pro. Took him an extra day to do that apparently. His $60 quote is now an $85 bill.

How is it that I always find the butthead places? Or are they *all* that way in MA?
2008-04-24 1:15 PM
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Bah. LBS called yesterday, didn't want to put the aerobars on, I told him that's why I brought it to a pro. Took him an extra day to do that apparently. His $60 quote is now an $85 bill.

How is it that I always find the butthead places? Or are they *all* that way in MA?


Yup, I'm dealing with the nitwits that I bought my first bike from.

Firstly, I called them, told them I ordered a Javelin triathlon bike and need it assembled. The guy acts like this is the first thing that's ever been requested, then asks somebody nearby, how much to charge to put a triathAlon bike together? So yeah, I was pretty much turned off at that point.

Then I said, "so anyways, I bought a trek 1500 roadbike from you guys a little over a year ago, can I still bring it in for my tuneup". Their answer, "it's too late for the free tune up, it'll be a 55 dollar charge for a tuneup now". My answer to that, "are you serious? ok, bye then". Apparently in order to get your ONE free tuneup, you need to bring it in in less than a year.

Wow, WTF?
2008-04-24 1:25 PM
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TheyCallMeTiny - 2008-04-24 12:36 PM I just left a message hopefully they still have something left. 2 months is a stretch but who knows. My wife needs a road bike.

I got a 51 Parma just 4 days ago, and they had lot of sizes left. So, you might still be in luck. But, I'd suggest calling them back. Seems to work better that way. 

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