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2009-01-11 9:42 PM
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Goals for this week:  Nothing in concrete.

I've got a trade show all week and next weekend that I leave for on Tuesday ... have to make the grueling 50 mile drive to Anaheim   But, that puts me at the Hilton for 6 days.  No pool for lap swimming, but they do have a full gym and spin classes.  I'll check the schedule and see if I can jump in any of the classes, but if not, my only goal is to try to fit in a week of 90 minute workouts.  Unfortunately, they'll all be on the stationary bike and treadmill.

I'll get the miles and the minutes done to maintain, but that's it as far as setting any goals.

On another note, it seems I've given up on swimming.  It's probably my biggest comfort zone and the discipline with which I am most comfortable, so while I'm working up my running I'm setting swimming aside for another week or two.  I've got a sprint at the end of February and the swim is only 500 meters, which I can easily get up to speed with by starting again two or three times a week at the first of the month.  Weird, though, because I feel guilty about not doing it.  However, I've read a lot that it's okay to pull back on a stronger discipline to focus on a weaker on in the off-season.  We'll see

Hope everyone has a great week! 



2009-01-11 11:08 PM
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tcovert - 2009-01-11 4:11 PM Re: wetsuit...check out the "factory outlet" page at Xterra (http://www.xterrawetsuits.com/factory-outlet1.html)...don't know what size you take, but if you happen to be an XL, they have a Ventilator fullsuit in that size for half price ($147). My wife and I both have Xterra suits and liked their customer service a lot. I ordered a "factory outlet" (i.e., discontinued) suit online from them and they were out of my size...so they upgraded me to the new model for no extra charge. Worth a look now or later in the year. As far a one-piece/two-piece, I'd also say one piece given where you are.

Thanks for all the good advice.  One more question.  If you wear a jersey and tri shorts under the wet suit, what does that do to sizing needs?

Also, I thought I would wait until closer to April with open water swimming opens here so I know what the weight will do by then. 

 

 

2009-01-12 12:54 AM
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Neither a bathing suit, tri suit or running shorts will make a difference to the size of your wetsuit.  They all fit easily underneath. 
2009-01-12 1:27 AM
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Poster Nutbag - 2009-01-11 10:54 PM

Neither a bathing suit, tri suit or running shorts will make a difference to the size of your wetsuit.  They all fit easily underneath. 


True...although depending on the fit, you may find you have to be careful getting the legs of the wetsuit up over the tri shorts without pulling or rolling the tri shorts up with the wetsuit and having them get bunched up. (This is the bane of my wife's existence when putting on her wetsuit.) If you roll the wetsuit on, working your way up (and rolling the neoprene over the tri shorts as you go), you avoid that, but I know getting into a wetsuit can be a struggle and having that spandex on can just add to that. But, sizing-wise, Morgan's absolutely right...shouldn't make a difference.
2009-01-12 7:34 AM
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Excellent.  Many thanks to you both.

I had a great weekend.  Hope you all did too.  Still imprisoned indoors for workouts - Tuesday is scheduled to be 11 with sub zero windchills and snow.  I earn the name...

2009-01-12 7:48 AM
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sealiongirl - 2009-01-11 2:29 PM

I'm still on track for a great week. I've trained five of the six days. I got a run in while camping despite not really wanting to. I need to get out and ride and/or swim today. Will do so soon. I hope you're all having a great weekend!



^^^ IMHO, that's really the key to long term success...whether in competition or weight loss...getting to where you do the work even when it isn't appealing in the moment. I don't think I've ever regretted doing a workout that I thought about blowing off. If anything, it makes me feel even more accomplished.

(OTOH, I have regretted impulsive--compulsive, really--choices in eating. Just as the discomfort of a workout is only temporary, so is the enjoyment of poor dietary choices. After the discomfort and the enjoyment are past, you still have the fitness benefits of the workout and the excess calories and fat from the overeating.)


this is a really interesting way of looking at things - like they're opposite.


2009-01-12 7:50 AM
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Poster Nutbag - 2009-01-11 10:42 PM

On another note, it seems I've given up on swimming.  It's probably my biggest comfort zone and the discipline with which I am most comfortable, so while I'm working up my running I'm setting swimming aside for another week or two.  I've got a sprint at the end of February and the swim is only 500 meters, which I can easily get up to speed with by starting again two or three times a week at the first of the month.  Weird, though, because I feel guilty about not doing it.  However, I've read a lot that it's okay to pull back on a stronger discipline to focus on a weaker on in the off-season.  We'll see

Hope everyone has a great week! 



If you're a strong swimmer, focusing on the run and bike for a couple of weeks shouldn't make much of a difference (and actually could help you). 500 meters is a short swim...
2009-01-12 7:52 AM
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So this morning it finally happened.

I can swim.

The stroke rehab work I spent pretty much all of December doing has finally paid off. I can't believe it.

I can breathe bilaterally -- for the *entire* swim. (I used to do a 2-3 pattern and could never breathe every 3 strokes for more than 1 lap). In fact, sometimes I forgot to breathe and then took a breath every 4 strokes.

I can't believe it.

And I didn't know what to do! I swam a 200 like it was nothing. And then I was like: Now what? And after the second 200, I almost started crying. And then I laughed. And did another 200.

I plan to pick up "Swim Workouts in a Binder" this weekend. I'll finally be good enough to actually *need* workouts!

Now, I'm still slow - I shared a lane with another slow swimmer for the second half of the workout, and she could lap me. But it took her 150 yards to lap me instead of getting lapped every 25. And I still am lifting my head too much to breathe, something I will have to work on.

I'm excited.

Game on.

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2009-01-12 8:19 AM
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That is so great and exciting Susie!!!  I have seen the Swim Workouts in a Binder and there are definitely a lot of good drills in there.  Yay for you!!! 

 

 

2009-01-12 9:12 AM
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Awesome!  Good for you!  Isn't it fun to succeed? 

My Masters coach took a 100 yard sprinter and turned me into a distance swimmer in 6 weeks.  I've done a mile and stopped only because I ran out of time.  Now I'm working on strength and time.  It all comes together with patience and work and proper instruction.  In the immortal words of Anthony Hopkins in the greatest movie of all time, The Edge, "What one man (or woman) can do, another can do." 

 

   

 

2009-01-12 9:19 AM
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quote for the day:

"The smallest deed is greater than the grandest of intentions."

-- seen on church billboard on my commute


2009-01-12 10:28 AM
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Way to go, Susie! It's always great when something "clicks" like that!
2009-01-12 10:36 AM
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Happy Monday, everyone! Hope everyone had a great weekend!

It's going to be a mostly light week of training for me until Friday. Most of my little injuries are healing up, but the right hamstring issue is still lurking and not quite healed. Weather's going to be great here all week (sorry, those of you who are snowbound...I feel your pain...I used to run in the winter in Wisconsin and Minnesota) and, of course, it's getting lighter earlier and staying light later. I hope to start building miles on the run againg starting next weekend.

Today: Probably 45 min on trainer tonight
Tue: Easy run (~4 mi) or possibly long walk, depending on hamstring
Wed: 1 hr ride - trainer or road TBD
Thur: Possible AM swim / PM run intervals (probably 6 x 1/2 mile)
Fri: Ride hills
Sat: AM swim ~2000 yds / Easy ride
Sun: Run 12 miles
2009-01-12 10:36 AM
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Susie, that's fan-freakin'-tastic!!!
2009-01-12 10:59 AM
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Offthegrid - 2009-01-12 5:52 AM So this morning it finally happened. I can swim. The stroke rehab work I spent pretty much all of December doing has finally paid off. I can't believe it. I can breathe bilaterally -- for the *entire* swim. (I used to do a 2-3 pattern and could never breathe every 3 strokes for more than 1 lap). In fact, sometimes I forgot to breathe and then took a breath every 4 strokes. I can't believe it. And I didn't know what to do! I swam a 200 like it was nothing. And then I was like: Now what? And after the second 200, I almost started crying. And then I laughed. And did another 200. I plan to pick up "Swim Workouts in a Binder" this weekend. I'll finally be good enough to actually *need* workouts!N

WOW! Congratulations, Susie. That must feel Soooo good. 

I'm going to try and post some swim workouts I got somewhere and have used over the last year. I have more if you're interested. Having a workout sure helps me to have some structure in the pool rather than just swimming laps. For drills you can do anything -- catch up drill, dragging fingertips, one armed swimming with one arm at your side, etc. I hope this helps out.

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Swim Workouts

(1)
Warm-up # 1 ....................300 yds
5 x 100’s sw-15" rest bet. ...500 yds
200 swim down real easy ....200 yds
Total ............................1000 yds

(2)
Warm-up # 1 ........................300 yds
10 x 50s sw - 10" bet. ea........500 yds
200 swim down real easy ........200 yds
Total ...............................1000 yds

(3)
Warm-up # 1 ......................300 yds
500 swim ............................500 yds
200 swim down real easy ......200 yds
Total ..............................1000 yds

(4)
Warm-up # 1 .....................300 yds
8 x 100’s sw-15" rest bet. ....800 yds
150 swim down real easy ....150 yds
Total .............................1250 yds

(5)
Warm-up # 1 ........................300 yds
16 x 50s sw -10" bet. ea. .....800 yds
150 swim down real easy ....150 yds
Total ..............................1250 yds

(6)
Warm-up # 1 ......................300 yds
800 swim ...........................800 yds
150 swim down real easy ...150 yds
Total ..............................1250 yds

(7)
Warm-up # 2 ......................500 yds
4 x 200’s sw-20" rest bet. .....800 yds
200 swim down real easy .....200 yds
Total ..............................1500 yds

(8)
Warm-up # 2 .....................500 yds
16 x 50s sw - 10" res bet. ea.800 yds
200 swim down real easy ....200 yds
Total ............................1500 yds

(9)
Warm-up # 2 .......................500 yds
800 swim ............................800 yds
200 swim down real easy ....200 yds
Total .............................1500 yds

(10)
Warm-up # 2.......................500 yds
5 x 100’s sw -15"   bet. ea. ..500 yds
10 x 50’s k-15" rest bet. ea. .500 yds
250 swim down real easy ....250 yds
Total .............................1750 yds

(11)
Warm-up # 2 ......................500 yds
1 x 100 sw-15" rest bet. ea.
2 x 50’s k-10" rest bet. ea.
do this set 5 times .............1000 yds
250 swim down real easy ....250 yds
Total..............................1750 yds

(12)
Warm-up # 1 .....................300 yds
500 sw; 400 pull;
300 kick; 200 sw; 100 pull ..1500 yds
200 swim down real easy ....200 yds
Total...............................2000 yds

(13)
Warm-up # 2 .......................500 yds
1000 swim .........................1000 yds
500 Drill ..............................500 yds
250 swim down real easy ....250 yds
Total ...............................2000 yds

Warm-ups
Warm-up # 1
200 sw, 50 k, 50 sw .............300 yds
Warm-up # 2
300 sw, 100 k, 100sw ...........500 yds
Warm-up # 3
500 sw, 200k, 100 sw ...........800 yds

 

 

 

2009-01-12 12:23 PM
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awesome - thanks for the workouts!! Those are right about my yardage capacity right now (I was slowed a little bit by having to switch lanes when the water walker came).

Question: I don't see drills on there, unless I am misunderstanding the abbreviations?

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There are also some really good swim workouts at www.swimplan.com.  It's free... you fill in your information and the site 'evaluates' your swimming ability and tailors your swim workouts based on the distance that you want to swim, the amount of time that you have to swim, etc.  It also gives pretty good details on how to do each drill 
2009-01-12 12:38 PM
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There's one drill on workout #13, plus I always try and add some drill/form stuff in each workout.

Ambular's site look interesting. I'll check it out later. Off to work. Hi-ho, hi-ho.

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Can't believe I almost missed it - Congrats, Paul, on your race this weekend!
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Yeah Paul, congrats!  Give us the scoop ...

 

Hey Todd, how did you get the forecast bar at the top of your log?

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Poster Nutbag - 2009-01-12 12:40 PM

Yeah Paul, congrats!  Give us the scoop ...

 

Hey Todd, how did you get the forecast bar at the top of your log?

You have to be a performance member to get the forecast bar. Its an option in your control panel  once you upgrade.



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Susie congrats on the swim! When you see hard work pay off it makes it exciting doesn't it?

My goals for the week:

run 3 times (yeah I'm starting to be able to run!)

ride 3 times

weights 2 times

maybe a swim or two if the pool opens this week

I've really not been focused lately. I need to start being more consistant, eating better, etc Time to get past this "off season" mentality

2009-01-13 7:35 AM
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My goals for the week:

Monday: Swim 900 yds
Tuesday: Swim 900 yds, Run 3 miles
Wednesday: Bike 6 miles
Thursday: Swim 900 yds, Run 3 miles
Friday: Rest
Saturday: Run 5 miles
Sunday: Bike 8 miles
2009-01-13 8:13 AM
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Is it common to feel sick to the stomach after a really tough workout?

I felt sick to my stomach last night (see blog if you want the "long" version), and didn't want to eat anything. Figured I could tolerate orange juice and a banana, and then I ended up eating a couple of foods I didn't want to (popcorn, chocolate) when I could have just made myself something healthy.

Not sure I want to invest in recovery drinks while I'm still doing these short workouts, but I wondered what others do. (My tummy doesn't do well with milk but I might be able to do almond milk. Not sure if that's the 4:1 ratio.)
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Hmm... maybe you could try eating something a little more 'solid' before the workout?  Like a peanut butter sandwich or something of that nature???

That is just an idea that I am throwing out there... I too get a stomach ache every now and then after a tough workout (my body's way of saying 'what the heck did you just do to me?!').  I find that it's not too bad if I eat something like pretzels, a peanut butter sandwich, or rice cakes shortly before working out.

I also find that if I don't eat shortly after a hard workout then my stomach starts to hurt in a way that I feel sick.  That means that I am definitely low on fuel and I need to 'recharge' (aka: eat now!). 

Those are just my thoughts though!



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