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2009-12-26 5:15 PM
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I can't believe I'm not divorced yet. Got married in May 2005, it was a bad relationship, DOA, decided to get out in April 2008. I signed my freaking separation agreement in September of 2008. I signed my complaint of divorce paperwork in May of 2009. We don't have any kids, why is this taking so long?
My mother sent a package to my (almost) ex-husband's mother. There was some mix-ups during packing and I have some of his childhood ornaments and he has some of mine. So my mother thought reaching out to her would be better than me trying to talk to him. She sent the package, with a note saying something like "I'm sure as a mother you've been wanting these, and I really hope you'll reciprocate, etc" and it arrived to my ex-MIL on December 8th. We never heard anything back. I don't know why that's bumming me out right now, it just is.
Christmas when you're married to money is all about the stuff. Tons of stuff. Buy my love, that's right, its for sale. I don't really like my family all that much, they're very stressful to be around. I love them, just don't like them. Anyway, with all the "stuff" gone with the ex-husband, and not liking being around my family, this Christmas was tough. I tried to talk to my dad about it, and he just told me to stop letting the ex have power over me. But that's not what it is at all. I miss the stuff, but only in that superficial kind of way. I was trying to let him know how hurtful my mom can be with her words, and he just didn't hear me.
Thanks for letting me vent here. I don't have any real life friends that I can talk to about this, and I just had to get it off my chest.
I'm thinking of so many of you during this season, and hoping that you are all having a good weekend.


2009-12-26 9:55 PM
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Atlantia - 2009-12-26 6:15 PM I can't believe I'm not divorced yet. Got married in May 2005, it was a bad relationship, DOA, decided to get out in April 2008. I signed my freaking separation agreement in September of 2008. I signed my complaint of divorce paperwork in May of 2009. We don't have any kids, why is this taking so long? My mother sent a package to my (almost) ex-husband's mother. There was some mix-ups during packing and I have some of his childhood ornaments and he has some of mine. So my mother thought reaching out to her would be better than me trying to talk to him. She sent the package, with a note saying something like "I'm sure as a mother you've been wanting these, and I really hope you'll reciprocate, etc" and it arrived to my ex-MIL on December 8th. We never heard anything back. I don't know why that's bumming me out right now, it just is. Christmas when you're married to money is all about the stuff. Tons of stuff. Buy my love, that's right, its for sale. I don't really like my family all that much, they're very stressful to be around. I love them, just don't like them. Anyway, with all the "stuff" gone with the ex-husband, and not liking being around my family, this Christmas was tough. I tried to talk to my dad about it, and he just told me to stop letting the ex have power over me. But that's not what it is at all. I miss the stuff, but only in that superficial kind of way. I was trying to let him know how hurtful my mom can be with her words, and he just didn't hear me. Thanks for letting me vent here. I don't have any real life friends that I can talk to about this, and I just had to get it off my chest. I'm thinking of so many of you during this season, and hoping that you are all having a good weekend.


So sorry to hear about your situation Laura and I understand about not having someone in person to talk to.  Especially when they judge you and all you are looking for is a sympathetic ear.

We are here for you so vent away.  We do understand and care and do so without judging.  Hope your weekend is going well...especially now that Christmas has passed.

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2009-12-27 1:52 AM
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Hang in there Atlantia.  All things legal take forever.  I think the courts and lawyers make more money by delaying.

Just keep thinking, a new chapter in your life is about to start.
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Atlantia - 2009-12-26 5:15 PM I can't believe I'm not divorced yet. Got married in May 2005, it was a bad relationship, DOA, decided to get out in April 2008. I signed my freaking separation agreement in September of 2008. I signed my complaint of divorce paperwork in May of 2009. We don't have any kids, why is this taking so long? My mother sent a package to my (almost) ex-husband's mother. There was some mix-ups during packing and I have some of his childhood ornaments and he has some of mine. So my mother thought reaching out to her would be better than me trying to talk to him. She sent the package, with a note saying something like "I'm sure as a mother you've been wanting these, and I really hope you'll reciprocate, etc" and it arrived to my ex-MIL on December 8th. We never heard anything back. I don't know why that's bumming me out right now, it just is. Christmas when you're married to money is all about the stuff. Tons of stuff. Buy my love, that's right, its for sale. I don't really like my family all that much, they're very stressful to be around. I love them, just don't like them. Anyway, with all the "stuff" gone with the ex-husband, and not liking being around my family, this Christmas was tough. I tried to talk to my dad about it, and he just told me to stop letting the ex have power over me. But that's not what it is at all. I miss the stuff, but only in that superficial kind of way. I was trying to let him know how hurtful my mom can be with her words, and he just didn't hear me. Thanks for letting me vent here. I don't have any real life friends that I can talk to about this, and I just had to get it off my chest. I'm thinking of so many of you during this season, and hoping that you are all having a good weekend.


Hey there....we are all here for each other, so lean as hard as you need to!  Try not to let the divorce get to you---yeah, easy for me to say, I know.  What I mean, the legal "you are officially divorced' part of it.  It's just a change in status.  You are out.  That's what counts. Not what somejudge wherever says.  Not what some soon to be ex mother in law does. etc.  Take care of yourself first! 

Check back, huh, let us know how things are!!!
2010-01-04 8:13 AM
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Just wanted to check in with everyone to see how your holidays went.  I know this can be a very stressful time for those that have depressive or bipolar issues, what with all of the stress/families/finances and even environmental changes with the weather.

Hope everyone made it through without crashing and is really looking forward to a better and stronger new year in 2010.


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I survived the holidays just fine. This is nothing short of a miracle.

I am a little surprised by how incredibly exhausted I am, though. I seem to need a lot more sleep than usual (like 10-12 hours the last few nights). Nobody else who knows my situation is surprised, though, except perhaps that I didn't need a lot more sleep a lot sooner!

I wake up in high anxiety every morning (just short of panic). It's horrible and it makes getting going extremely difficult (I'm nearly frozen with fear) but once I get going, it subsides. I just wish I didn't wake up with a start each morning as if a cannon had just been shot outside my window.


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TriAya - 2010-01-04 10:06 AM I survived the holidays just fine. This is nothing short of a miracle.

I am a little surprised by how incredibly exhausted I am, though. I seem to need a lot more sleep than usual (like 10-12 hours the last few nights). Nobody else who knows my situation is surprised, though, except perhaps that I didn't need a lot more sleep a lot sooner!

I wake up in high anxiety every morning (just short of panic). It's horrible and it makes getting going extremely difficult (I'm nearly frozen with fear) but once I get going, it subsides. I just wish I didn't wake up with a start each morning as if a cannon had just been shot outside my window.


Been there....NO FUN!  Mornings were OK, it was those middle of the night chills/fears/anxieties that got me.  Youre doing the right thing though....Hard as it is, once you start moving, it subsides.  Took me a long time to learn that too.  That you know it, youre a step ahead of the game.

Hang in there and keep lettingus know how its going!!!
2010-01-04 10:18 AM
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Yanti, are you waking up on your own like that, or with an alarm? I ask because I had a friend who had problems with feeling anxious and high HR when she woke up and she switched to a gentler alarm clock sound. Wouldn't that be nice, if it was something that simple.



I got a text from my ex on New Year's Day, 1am. I didn't notice until two night later, and of course he just sent a mass text to everyone in his address book. I sent back: "Way to mass text your ex. It'll be a happy new year when you get off your butt and finalize this divorce" It made me feel a little better. Then I kissed my boyfriend, and I felt a lot better.
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This is such an awesome thread!!

I bailed out of the triathlon world after training hard and feeling so great I reduced my meds thinking the added exercise will help my depression.  Boy was I wrong.  I get into a funk after a race anyway and with the added hurdles of reduced meds I didn't have the spunk to get back on the training wheel.  It has taken me 4 years to get back. 

Sure I have gone through a lot in those 4 years with  three lay offs.  Relocation. Lots of stress.  No money.  But I caution those that hear that exercise can replace meds.  It doesn't work that way when you have a chemical imbalance.  That is great that some of you have found other ways of treating your depression.  But don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work for you.

I am so glad I found this thread!
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Atlantia - 2010-01-04 10:18 AM Yanti, are you waking up on your own like that, or with an alarm? I ask because I had a friend who had problems with feeling anxious and high HR when she woke up and she switched to a gentler alarm clock sound. Wouldn't that be nice, if it was something that simple. I got a text from my ex on New Year's Day, 1am. I didn't notice until two night later, and of course he just sent a mass text to everyone in his address book. I sent back: "Way to mass text your ex. It'll be a happy new year when you get off your butt and finalize this divorce" It made me feel a little better. Then I kissed my boyfriend, and I felt a lot better.


BRAVO!!!!!!  That's it!  Sure its only January 4, but that is in the running for post of the year.
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mttriagain - 2010-01-04 10:36 AM This is such an awesome thread!!

I bailed out of the triathlon world after training hard and feeling so great I reduced my meds thinking the added exercise will help my depression.  Boy was I wrong.  I get into a funk after a race anyway and with the added hurdles of reduced meds I didn't have the spunk to get back on the training wheel.  It has taken me 4 years to get back. 

Sure I have gone through a lot in those 4 years with  three lay offs.  Relocation. Lots of stress.  No money.  But I caution those that hear that exercise can replace meds.  It doesn't work that way when you have a chemical imbalance.  That is great that some of you have found other ways of treating your depression.  But don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work for you.

I am so glad I found this thread!
Christine


Hi Christine, welcome to BT and our little world here!!!  You are totally right.  Excercise does not replace meds.  It is just another tool, like the meds and counselling, etc etc to battle the beast.

Keep coming here, we all help each other along.!!!


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mttriagain - 2010-01-04 11:36 AM

This is such an awesome thread!!

I bailed out of the triathlon world after training hard and feeling so great I reduced my meds thinking the added exercise will help my depression.  Boy was I wrong.  I get into a funk after a race anyway and with the added hurdles of reduced meds I didn't have the spunk to get back on the training wheel.  It has taken me 4 years to get back. 

Sure I have gone through a lot in those 4 years with  three lay offs.  Relocation. Lots of stress.  No money.  But I caution those that hear that exercise can replace meds.  It doesn't work that way when you have a chemical imbalance.  That is great that some of you have found other ways of treating your depression.  But don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work for you.

I am so glad I found this thread!
Christine


Hi and welcome Christine!
This is a really great thread. It helps to be able to vent, and to get advice from other people who really understand. It also helps to get a bit of perspective. I know a lot of areas really push meds or accupuncture or therapy or whatever, and its nice to check in with other people using different methods.

And you are so right when you say not to beat yourself up if something doesn't work for you. Right on the money. I used to do just that when no medication ever worked for me. I thought it meant there was something really wrong with me, because meds worked for everyone else but never offered me any relief.

Anyway, welcome to BT, and good luck on getting back into tri's. Its never too late to come home.
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TriAya - 2010-01-04 11:06 AM I survived the holidays just fine. This is nothing short of a miracle.

I am a little surprised by how incredibly exhausted I am, though. I seem to need a lot more sleep than usual (like 10-12 hours the last few nights). Nobody else who knows my situation is surprised, though, except perhaps that I didn't need a lot more sleep a lot sooner!

I wake up in high anxiety every morning (just short of panic). It's horrible and it makes getting going extremely difficult (I'm nearly frozen with fear) but once I get going, it subsides. I just wish I didn't wake up with a start each morning as if a cannon had just been shot outside my window.


So sorry to hear this Yanti.  I know you have been through a lot but you are staying strong and moving in the right direction.  You have so much to be proud of.

10-12 hours sleep is a weeks worth for me right now but that too is going to be better soon.

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mttriagain - 2010-01-04 11:36 AM This is such an awesome thread!!

I bailed out of the triathlon world after training hard and feeling so great I reduced my meds thinking the added exercise will help my depression.  Boy was I wrong.  I get into a funk after a race anyway and with the added hurdles of reduced meds I didn't have the spunk to get back on the training wheel.  It has taken me 4 years to get back. 

Sure I have gone through a lot in those 4 years with  three lay offs.  Relocation. Lots of stress.  No money.  But I caution those that hear that exercise can replace meds.  It doesn't work that way when you have a chemical imbalance.  That is great that some of you have found other ways of treating your depression.  But don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work for you.

I am so glad I found this thread!
Christine


Welcome to BT and our little slice of the web.  We are here for you and most anyone here is open to "talking" with you either on here of by PM or in anyway you feel you need.

Stay strong and keep doing the things that have gotten you back the last 4 years.

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ChicagoMan65 - 2010-01-04 11:38 AM
Atlantia - 2010-01-04 10:18 AM Yanti, are you waking up on your own like that, or with an alarm? I ask because I had a friend who had problems with feeling anxious and high HR when she woke up and she switched to a gentler alarm clock sound. Wouldn't that be nice, if it was something that simple. I got a text from my ex on New Year's Day, 1am. I didn't notice until two night later, and of course he just sent a mass text to everyone in his address book. I sent back: "Way to mass text your ex. It'll be a happy new year when you get off your butt and finalize this divorce" It made me feel a little better. Then I kissed my boyfriend, and I felt a lot better.


BRAVO!!!!!!  That's it!  Sure its only January 4, but that is in the running for post of the year.


You should have texted him photographic evidence of that. 

Great post.
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Happy New Year!!!!   I am glad everyone is back.  I survived the holiday season without too much grief.  Probably the first time in awhile.  Maybe it is the new meds!   Little off in my training and up in the air with my training goals.  I am a one day at time guy and don't look too much into the future as I don't want to disappoint myself.  Hope my cold leaves soon it has outlasted its welcome!

I have my 25th HS reunion (yeah, I'm officially old) and not sure I will go.  Feel like a failure going back.

Anyway, hope everyone has a great 2010 and keep on posting!

Ted


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TeddieMao - 2010-01-04 7:08 PM Happy New Year!!!!   I am glad everyone is back.  I survived the holiday season without too much grief.  Probably the first time in awhile.  Maybe it is the new meds!   Little off in my training and up in the air with my training goals.  I am a one day at time guy and don't look too much into the future as I don't want to disappoint myself.  Hope my cold leaves soon it has outlasted its welcome!

I have my 25th HS reunion (yeah, I'm officially old) and not sure I will go.  Feel like a failure going back.

Anyway, hope everyone has a great 2010 and keep on posting!

Ted


Dude, One day at a time is all we get.  Its not a matter of disappointing yourself, its a matter of reality.  Set a goal and you may get there. They are goals, not requirements!  Sign up for a race, set a plan and start toward it!!!

Hey, the 25th reunion?  You are not a failure and shouldnt look at it that way.  If you go, you may just hear stories of trainwrecks, marriage failures, alcoholism, failed businesses and lost jobs.  The hottest chick in the day is probably now fat and saggy.  You never know.  You may walk out of there feeling like a king compared to some of those people.

On the other hand, who really cares?  I blew off mine. (and my 20th, 15th, 10th, 5th)  I had enough HIGH SCHOOL during HIGH SCHOOL.  Thats why they call it HIGH SCHOOL and it ends at a certain point.  Why go back? 
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TeddieMao - 2010-01-04 8:08 PM Happy New Year!!!!   I am glad everyone is back.  I survived the holiday season without too much grief.  Probably the first time in awhile.  Maybe it is the new meds!   Little off in my training and up in the air with my training goals.  I am a one day at time guy and don't look too much into the future as I don't want to disappoint myself.  Hope my cold leaves soon it has outlasted its welcome!

I have my 25th HS reunion (yeah, I'm officially old) and not sure I will go.  Feel like a failure going back.

Anyway, hope everyone has a great 2010 and keep on posting!

Ted


Outstanding news about the new meds and glad you had a good holiday season.  I agree with CM...get yourself signed up for something so that you can have a goal to shoot for.

As far as the reunion goes.  I have been to all of mine...and my 40th is next year (so you ain't THAT old ) and the thing I have found out is that much like when you were in school, there are people that you connect with and those that you don't.  There will be some HS big shots that now serve fries with every order and some real HS loosers that have hit it BIG....so what.  If they are judging you then they are not someone you are going to hang with anyway and most of those that present themselves as big shots are just trying to recover their HS machoism because they have no adult life....and hey...have your training calendar put on the back of a BT Tri shirt and just walk around like the TRI stud that you are. 

You might try tracking some of your "real" friends from school down on Facebook and see if they are going.  At the last one that I went to I started talking with a girl that I knew in school but never dated and we found out we had a TON in commom.  We went to the bar in the place we were having the reunion and sat and just talked for about an hour then shook hands and went home.  We still stay in touch and she is a friend that I would not have if I hadn't gone.

Just something to think about.

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Holy Cow!

I'm not sure how I missed this thread. I have not read the whole thing yet, but I will.

I suppose this is a corner of BT I rarely visit (too much COJ). Still, I am really glad it's here. The past couple of years (2008 and 2009) really brought to the surface icky brain things that I now know have been with me for so long that I had really taken them for granted.

There's a history of bipolar disorder in my family, so initially in 2006/2007 I got a perscription for Symbyax which turned me into a zombified eating machine who only wanted to sleep and eat, and eat, and eat...you get the picture. I dropped that figuring that the cure was worse than the cause, and threw myself into Tri-training at every available moment. That helped, but in 2008 I experienced a couple of major life events, my wife's serious illness in the Spring, and a DNF at my first IM attempt in November.

In the winter of 08/09, the usual anger and winter gloom that I had become accustomed to were joined by a new third companion (a party crasher if you will) suicidal thoughts. frankly, I got scared and sought help. A bit of CBT and a perscription for Welbutrin (trazadone added later) and I am feeling better and accomplishing more than I ever have. It turns out that that freeloading sonofabitch depression had been hitching a ride in my brain for years and years. It was an "Oh, now it makes sense!!!" moments for me.

I have followed the struggles of a few of the folks in this thread over the past couple of years, and wished there was a better way to reach out to them than just randomly stumbling accross their logs and blogs and pollywogs by happenstance.

It's been my observation that depression is widespread in Tri-land. A friend of mine has a theory that it's a form of self medication (this is being borne out in the literature now) similar to drugs (legal and not) that people turn to in order to re-arrange the chemicals in the brain. I know from experience that I now drink a whole lot less than I did before going on my meds, and I have not touched anything else since college.

Anyway, enough rambling. I've got some reading to do. I am so glad I found this thread. It's gonna be a good year, Scooter! 

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Welcome, Dave! I've been a fan of yours since I came onto this site--it was the username that got me --and you've been awfully nice to me.

I'm really glad you've gotten things sorted out, pharmacotherapeutically speaking, and are doing well.
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TriAya - 2010-01-08 11:10 AM Welcome, Dave! I've been a fan of yours since I came onto this site--it was the username that got me --and you've been awfully nice to me.

I'm really glad you've gotten things sorted out, pharmacotherapeutically speaking, and are doing well.

Thanks Yanti! Coming from the Queen of Nice (that's you), this is quite a compliement.

I still have my moments, like everyone, I suppose. Still having a name and a face to assign to the opponent really does make a difference.

Dr. Who (the new, awsome BBC one) had an episode where the ogga-boogas were stone angel statues that killed you by sending you back in time to live out your life before you were born.....to keep them at bay you had to watch them, constantly and without blinking. they only moved when unobserved. Somehow, I found this an apt metaphor for the rude little houseguest who has stayed too long in my head.

 



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ride_like_u_stole_it - 2010-01-08 9:50 AM

Holy Cow!

I'm not sure how I missed this thread. I have not read the whole thing yet, but I will.

I suppose this is a corner of BT I rarely visit (too much COJ). Still, I am really glad it's here. The past couple of years (2008 and 2009) really brought to the surface icky brain things that I now know have been with me for so long that I had really taken them for granted.

There's a history of bipolar disorder in my family, so initially in 2006/2007 I got a perscription for Symbyax which turned me into a zombified eating machine who only wanted to sleep and eat, and eat, and eat...you get the picture. I dropped that figuring that the cure was worse than the cause, and threw myself into Tri-training at every available moment. That helped, but in 2008 I experienced a couple of major life events, my wife's serious illness in the Spring, and a DNF at my first IM attempt in November.

In the winter of 08/09, the usual anger and winter gloom that I had become accustomed to were joined by a new third companion (a party crasher if you will) suicidal thoughts. frankly, I got scared and sought help. A bit of CBT and a perscription for Welbutrin (trazadone added later) and I am feeling better and accomplishing more than I ever have. It turns out that that freeloading sonofabitch depression had been hitching a ride in my brain for years and years. It was an "Oh, now it makes sense!!!" moments for me.

I have followed the struggles of a few of the folks in this thread over the past couple of years, and wished there was a better way to reach out to them than just randomly stumbling accross their logs and blogs and pollywogs by happenstance.

It's been my observation that depression is widespread in Tri-land. A friend of mine has a theory that it's a form of self medication (this is being borne out in the literature now) similar to drugs (legal and not) that people turn to in order to re-arrange the chemicals in the brain. I know from experience that I now drink a whole lot less than I did before going on my meds, and I have not touched anything else since college.

Anyway, enough rambling. I've got some reading to do. I am so glad I found this thread. It's gonna be a good year, Scooter! 



Hey man!  Welcome to our corner of the site.  Its safe here, all the walls are virtually padded!

Nah, but glad to have you here.  Sounds like you have a good handle on whats going on and are moving forward.  That's the key thing---keep moving!

I think youre right about depressed triathletes.  The endorphins help.  How else can you max out on them but by being as insane as a triathlete??  I find the exercise, training, whatever, is just another tool in the battle.  With good therapy, good support, good drug regimen, good vibes, we can keep the monster at bay.

So, keep reading and posting.  We are all here for each other!

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Glad you found  the thread Dave.  We are a great group and very supportive without the judgement that you might find some other places.

Glad things are going pretty well for you.

Steve


btw...Love your poetry and sonnets...they are awesome.
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ride_like_u_stole_it - 2010-01-08 12:40 PM

Dr. Who (the new, awsome BBC one) had an episode where the ogga-boogas were stone angel statues that killed you by sending you back in time to live out your life before you were born.....to keep them at bay you had to watch them, constantly and without blinking. they only moved when unobserved. Somehow, I found this an apt metaphor for the rude little houseguest who has stayed too long in my head.

 



I've decided I like you because you like the Doctor. Plus that episode scared the crap out of me.

Welcome to the thread. Glad that you've got a diagnosis and meds that seem to be working for you.
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Subject: RE: Depression and Moods- Check in!
I came to the injuries forum to get some advice on plantar fasciitis and found this thread instead!  My 18 month old is attacking the computer right now but I can't wait to come back and check out this thread some more!  I started running to help with post partum depression.  I never imagined my need/desire to run would lead me to triathlons!!!  Can't wait to get to know you guys here.
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