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2013-03-26 1:04 PM
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Doing it for fun would be expensive.  I got the tuition waived since I was working as a research assistant. If I had paid normal tuition, it would have been $1500 per semester hour.

This is what I was thinking, no WAY would I pay college rates without going for a degree.  Find seminars and workshops to attend, then generally your employer will pay them!  I like doing that!

Free (to you) stuff is always good.



2013-03-26 1:08 PM
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tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 12:34 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:28 PM

OK well then.  On a whim Friday I sent out 2 resumes and I now have 2 emails for phone interviews.  One of the phone interviews is tonight.

Awsome.  Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt.  Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

Sarcastic font is right. It's an infuriating process, at least for me. Hopefully ya'lls experiences are more fruitful.

I stopped trying.  

2013-03-26 1:17 PM
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mehaner - 2013-03-26 10:59 AM
tech_geezer - 2013-03-26 1:53 PM

Doing it for fun would be expensive.  I got the tuition waived since I was working as a research assistant. If I had paid normal tuition, it would have been $1500 per semester hour.

This is what I was thinking, no WAY would I pay college rates without going for a degree.  Find seminars and workshops to attend, then generally your employer will pay them!  I like doing that!

Free (to you) stuff is always good.

If it is mostly for fun check out Coursera and Stanford online they have some great free courses.

 

2013-03-26 1:19 PM
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tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 1:34 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:28 PM

OK well then.  On a whim Friday I sent out 2 resumes and I now have 2 emails for phone interviews.  One of the phone interviews is tonight.

Awsome.  Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt.  Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter.  As I said it realy was just on a whim.  The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market.  The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

 

2013-03-26 1:20 PM
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trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:19 PM

tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 1:34 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:28 PM

OK well then.  On a whim Friday I sent out 2 resumes and I now have 2 emails for phone interviews.  One of the phone interviews is tonight.

Awsome.  Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt.  Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter.  As I said it realy was just on a whim.  The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market.  The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

 



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2013-03-26 1:23 PM
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pitt83 - 2013-03-26 2:20 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:19 PM
tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 1:34 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:28 PM

OK well then.  On a whim Friday I sent out 2 resumes and I now have 2 emails for phone interviews.  One of the phone interviews is tonight.

Awsome.  Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt.  Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter.  As I said it realy was just on a whim.  The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market.  The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

 

Not helping....

I sorry. 

Kiss it make it better?

 



2013-03-26 1:25 PM
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trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:19 PM
tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 1:34 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:28 PM

OK well then.  On a whim Friday I sent out 2 resumes and I now have 2 emails for phone interviews.  One of the phone interviews is tonight.

Awsome.  Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt.  Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter.  As I said it realy was just on a whim.  The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market.  The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

 

Just for that I shall poke you twice and taunt you more!
2013-03-26 1:25 PM
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Maybe I'm due, but I have NEVER been turned down for a job...

I have sent out plenty of resumes to get letters back saying they will file it for late consideration, but any job I actually interview for, I land.  Maybe there are some kooky engineers out there so they see one that's somewhat normal?

2013-03-26 1:27 PM
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Kido - 2013-03-26 2:25 PM

Maybe I'm due, but I have NEVER been turned down for a job...

I have sent out plenty of resumes to get letters back saying they will file it for late consideration, but any job I actually interview for, I land.  Maybe there are some kooky engineers out there so they see one that's somewhat normal?

engineers/tech professions with solid experience are generally in high demand - ESPECIALLY americans when in america - we do NOT have enough people to fill vacancies to stay competetive.  i think your luck in job hunting has much more to do with your chosen field than who you are personally.

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tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:25 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:19 PM
tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 1:34 PM
trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:28 PM

OK well then.  On a whim Friday I sent out 2 resumes and I now have 2 emails for phone interviews.  One of the phone interviews is tonight.

Awsome.  Im currently 0 for 2, first got a rejection letter and second nothing but an acknowledgement of recipt.  Im learning this process is going to be "fun"

So then it would be bad if I said I barely updated my 5 year old resume and didn't bother to send a cover letter.  As I said it realy was just on a whim.  The upside to my job is there are always more openings than their are people to fill them and it is not often that someone with my credetials comes on the market.  The downside is that you have to go where the jobs are.

 

Just for that I shall poke you twice and taunt you more!

Promises promises!!!  If you are nice to me I will teach you how to do flow cytometry.

 

2013-03-26 1:28 PM
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Kido - 2013-03-26 1:25 PM

Maybe I'm due, but I have NEVER been turned down for a job...

I have sent out plenty of resumes to get letters back saying they will file it for late consideration, but any job I actually interview for, I land.  Maybe there are some kooky engineers out there so they see one that's somewhat normal?

Have you tried recently?

I used to be able to say the same thing. I was offered a job with every interview I'd ever done. Until the last ~2 years. Sucks hard hearing that you are 100% qualified, you nailed your interview and have a strong industry leadership recommendation - but someone else was better.

  



2013-03-26 1:29 PM
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mehaner - 2013-03-26 2:27 PM
Kido - 2013-03-26 2:25 PM

Maybe I'm due, but I have NEVER been turned down for a job...

I have sent out plenty of resumes to get letters back saying they will file it for late consideration, but any job I actually interview for, I land.  Maybe there are some kooky engineers out there so they see one that's somewhat normal?

engineers/tech professions with solid experience are generally in high demand - ESPECIALLY americans when in america - we do NOT have enough people to fill vacancies to stay competetive.  i think your luck in job hunting has much more to do with your chosen field than who you are personally.

Oh for me, I know that is the case.  There is nothing special about me but the skill set I posess is fairly rare.

 

2013-03-26 1:32 PM
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trinnas - 2013-03-26 2:29 PM
mehaner - 2013-03-26 2:27 PM
Kido - 2013-03-26 2:25 PM

Maybe I'm due, but I have NEVER been turned down for a job...

I have sent out plenty of resumes to get letters back saying they will file it for late consideration, but any job I actually interview for, I land.  Maybe there are some kooky engineers out there so they see one that's somewhat normal?

engineers/tech professions with solid experience are generally in high demand - ESPECIALLY americans when in america - we do NOT have enough people to fill vacancies to stay competetive.  i think your luck in job hunting has much more to do with your chosen field than who you are personally.

Oh for me, I know that is the case.  There is nothing special about me but the skill set I posess is fairly rare.

 

even just run-of-the-mill engineers with work experience are becoming rare.  i'm not specialized whatsoever but i have a 10 year work experience and an engineering degree.  that just looks good.

2013-03-26 1:32 PM
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Im just starting this process and I have set some limitations (staying where we are) to my job search.  Good thing is that I checked a few job boards and there are a few new leads and I have a little bit of time.  I will find something!

 

2013-03-26 1:33 PM
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lisac957 - 2013-03-26 11:28 AM
Kido - 2013-03-26 1:25 PM

Maybe I'm due, but I have NEVER been turned down for a job...

I have sent out plenty of resumes to get letters back saying they will file it for late consideration, but any job I actually interview for, I land.  Maybe there are some kooky engineers out there so they see one that's somewhat normal?

Have you tried recently?

I used to be able to say the same thing. I was offered a job with every interview I'd ever done. Until the last ~2 years. Sucks hard hearing that you are 100% qualified, you nailed your interview and have a strong industry leadership recommendation - but someone else was better.

  

A year ago to get this job.  April 30th is my anniversary.  I may start looking in CA soon (keep that on the DL).

In my industry, I think they only interview when they really need someone then only call them in if their resume looks good.  The interview is basically to sort out the weirdo factor (personality conflicts) or if they person is full of it on the resume.

Other industries see to interview dozens for a single spot and can be more choosey?

2013-03-26 1:43 PM
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So a question from the FNG job hunter.  what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting?  I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab.  Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.


2013-03-26 1:51 PM
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Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly.

The rest of us dummies can't.


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mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

2013-03-26 1:53 PM
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tcarlson78 - 2013-03-26 2:43 PM So a question from the FNG job hunter.  what/or is there a trick to decode a job posting?  I am reading some of the local postings and my mind is reading buzzword type descriptions then trying to figure out what they said and its not technical stuff like Kate does in the lab.  Other posts I read and know in my heart that I have done that job several times and can do it again but my challenge is the translation of my skills into thier vernacular.

Is that not industry specific?

2013-03-26 1:54 PM
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mr2tony - 2013-03-26 11:51 AM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

Hey you can rite good.

2013-03-26 1:55 PM
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mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field.  there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in.  I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

 

 



2013-03-26 1:58 PM
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trinnas - 2013-03-26 1:55 PM

mehaner - 2013-03-26 2:53 PM

mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field.  there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in.  I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

 

 



Then why brag about how you got two interviews for jobs you dont even want? That's rude, especially in response to people who are having a hard time finding a job.

We get it, you guys have skills people want. That's great, but geez, dont rub people's faces in it. That's just rude.
2013-03-26 2:00 PM
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mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field.  there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in.  I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

 

 

Yeah, I am trying to work backwards and get into a more broad field so that I can have more flexibility in the future.

2013-03-26 2:02 PM
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mr2tony - 2013-03-26 2:51 PM Yeah engineers can pick and choose what they want to do and where they want to work, mostly. The rest of us dummies can't.

if that's how you choose to interpret what i said, then go ahead with that.

I have to go where the jobs are just like everyone else, more so than most as it is a rather niche field.  there are NO job openings for what I do in the area I live in.  I would have to bumb somebody off for there to be an opening in research.

 

 

Then why brag about how you got two interviews for jobs you dont even want? That's rude, especially in response to people who are having a hard time finding a job. We get it, you guys have skills people want. That's great, but geez, dont rub people's faces in it. That's just rude.

Nope, if it were to you it would be rude but if Troy thought I was being rude I will apologize to him. you on the other hand can get bent.

It so happened that I was a little surprised that I got either interviews as I did such a poor job of applying for them .  But hey you can make what ever interpretation makes you fell likle a big man on campus.

 

2013-03-26 2:04 PM
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