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2010-06-21 12:19 PM
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Remember, its your job to make the other BvD's (my brother) life hell during that swim!  

Newtons1st - 2010-06-21 12:16 PM Its not bad its a dry heat.

I am dreading the heat during the race. I am setting up my plans on the aid stations and what to carry with me and how many salt tabs I an going to..... wait I am just doing the swim in the low 70 degree water. Heck I am all good. Damn JC and BvD that runs is going to be HOT!!!

FYI Super Secrete Motivation Project componet #2 is under construction.



KelliD - 2010-06-21 11:19 AM At least the max humidity during the day is only 38%

evondo - 2010-06-21 11:17 AM So I've been trying to wish a cold front into Lubbock for this weekend, look at what good that's done...

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USTX0808?dayNum=6 


2010-06-21 12:24 PM
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2010-06-21 12:24 PM
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I spent the better part of yesterday's super humid run, trying to determine whether that run or the run at Longhorn (blazing hot sun, very little shade) was worse....yesterday by far!

evondo - 2010-06-21 12:21 PM That's what I told Betsy but she doesn't seem comforted by it

KelliD - 2010-06-21 11:19 AM At least the max humidity during the day is only 38%

evondo - 2010-06-21 11:17 AM So I've been trying to wish a cold front into Lubbock for this weekend, look at what good that's done...

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USTX0808?dayNum=6 


Edited by KelliD 2010-06-21 12:26 PM
2010-06-21 12:26 PM
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I am telling you with the swim and/or run planning tips you can swing my way we have a deal. I will be doing the best form tackle on him on the swim start that you have ever seen.  I could be scouted by the NFL. 

How fast a swimmer is he? This could determine if I will be drafting or simply attaching a line to him and let him drag me through the whole swim while I pummle him. He is a vD, he must have some swim talent. Then on the last 200 I can used my saved energy and sprint to the finish.  


evondo - 2010-06-21 12:19 PM Remember, its your job to make the other BvD's (my brother) life hell during that swim!  

Newtons1st - 2010-06-21 12:16 PM Its not bad its a dry heat.

I am dreading the heat during the race. I am setting up my plans on the aid stations and what to carry with me and how many salt tabs I an going to..... wait I am just doing the swim in the low 70 degree water. Heck I am all good. Damn JC and BvD that runs is going to be HOT!!!

FYI Super Secrete Motivation Project componet #2 is under construction.



KelliD - 2010-06-21 11:19 AM At least the max humidity during the day is only 38%

evondo - 2010-06-21 11:17 AM So I've been trying to wish a cold front into Lubbock for this weekend, look at what good that's done...

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USTX0808?dayNum=6 
2010-06-21 12:32 PM
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I forgot about the running post, good call I'll take a look

Not sure how fast he'll be honestly, he does have some swimming talent although he's never swam that far in his life until last week.  He's also never swam open water or in a wetsuit... I believe he was just over 2:00/100yd in the pool.

Newtons1st - 2010-06-21 12:26 PM I am telling you with the swim and/or run planning tips you can swing my way we have a deal. I will be doing the best form tackle on him on the swim start that you have ever seen.  I could be scouted by the NFL. 

How fast a swimmer is he? This could determine if I will be drafting or simply attaching a line to him and let him drag me through the whole swim while I pummle him. He is a vD, he must have some swim talent. Then on the last 200 I can used my saved energy and sprint to the finish.  


evondo - 2010-06-21 12:19 PM Remember, its your job to make the other BvD's (my brother) life hell during that swim!  

Newtons1st - 2010-06-21 12:16 PM Its not bad its a dry heat.

I am dreading the heat during the race. I am setting up my plans on the aid stations and what to carry with me and how many salt tabs I an going to..... wait I am just doing the swim in the low 70 degree water. Heck I am all good. Damn JC and BvD that runs is going to be HOT!!!

FYI Super Secrete Motivation Project componet #2 is under construction.



KelliD - 2010-06-21 11:19 AM At least the max humidity during the day is only 38%

evondo - 2010-06-21 11:17 AM So I've been trying to wish a cold front into Lubbock for this weekend, look at what good that's done...

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USTX0808?dayNum=6 
2010-06-21 12:47 PM
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There are multiple parts...YES..something to look forward to on that run!

Okay...seeing as how I probably won't start the run portion of the 70.3 til 11:30 or noon - what are y'alls thoughts on breakfast/lunch?  I was thinking my normal pre race breakfast but I'm not sure what to do about lunch.  Suggestions?  

Newtons1st - 2010-06-21 12:16 PM Its not bad its a dry heat.

I am dreading the heat during the race. I am setting up my plans on the aid stations and what to carry with me and how many salt tabs I an going to..... wait I am just doing the swim in the low 70 degree water. Heck I am all good. Damn JC and BvD that runs is going to be HOT!!!

FYI Super Secrete Motivation Project componet #2 is under construction.



KelliD - 2010-06-21 11:19 AM At least the max humidity during the day is only 38%

evondo - 2010-06-21 11:17 AM So I've been trying to wish a cold front into Lubbock for this weekend, look at what good that's done...

http://www.weather.com/weather/wxdetail/USTX0808?dayNum=6 


2010-06-21 12:54 PM
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Yes, you should adjust for any fitness gain/loss throughout the season.  Normally every 6-8 weeks is when I re-test zones. HR zones for running down here are pretty useless with the heat/humidity swings we have.  It's better to re-test your zones in the current conditions and go with those until the weather/fitness changes.

My only other recommendation is to get rid of one of the easy run in the beginning and build each run (3x/week) to 6mi. From there you can extend your long run further and start incorporating speed like you did.  In the last 4-6 weeks (not including race week) incorporate a short 10-20' transition run every 1-2 weeks and get used to running off the bike.  Before that you only really need a transition run every 3-4 weeks, if at all...


Newtons1st - 2010-06-17 4:33 PM

OK since I am still learning how to set up a running plan I am going to post up my running plans I have made out focusing on my OLY in OCT. Please give any critique you see fit, especially from our soon to be USAT coach/secret venture person on staff.  So looking at the McMillian running calculator I get these times and added in my HR ranges. My run needs the most work and I need to have more define goals with each run.

 

Long  – HR 151-161 – 11:20-12:00
Easy  – HR 155-165 - 11:15-11:40
Steady State – HR 165-184 – 10:15 – 10:30
Tempo – HR 185-195 – 9:50-10:15
Int – HR 195+ - 400 – 2:25, 800 – 4:50, 1200 - 7:15, 1600 – 9:30

For the first 5 weeks I have myself doing a little re base building phase. Then adding in some speed type work at week 6, then interval work the last 6 weeks. Run day plans are Mon, Tues, Thur, Sat for the week.  

One question I have is during this plan should I retest for HR/times to adjust to any built fitness?

 Week Run1Run2Run3Run4Sum% dif
7-Jun1 3.04.04.05.016.0 
14-Jun2 3.04.04.06.517.59.4%
21-Jun3 3.54.54.57.019.511.4%
28-Jun4 4.04.55.08.021.510.3%
5-Jul5Rest3.03.53.55.015.0-30.2%
   Easy/RecSSTempoLR  
12-Jul6 3.54.54.56.519.026.7%
19-Jul7 3.54.55.08.021.010.5%
26-Jul8 4.04.55.59.023.09.5%
2-Aug9Rest3.04.04.05.516.5-28.3%
   Easy/RecTempoIntLR  
9-Aug10 4.04.55.07.020.524.2%
16-Aug11 4.05.05.58.022.59.8%
23-Aug12 4.06.06.09.025.011.1%
30-Aug13Rest4.04.04.06.518.5-26.0%
6-Sep14 4.06.06.09.025.035.1%
13-Sep15 4.06.06.09.025.00.0%
20-Sep16 4.06.06.09.025.00.0%
27-Sep17Tapr4.05.05.07.021.0-14.0%
4-Oct18 4.03.53.0Race10.5-52.3%
2010-06-21 12:57 PM
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Wow, this looks fun.  Looks about what I have been training on so that's good. 






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2010-06-21 1:30 PM
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Cool the last 16 mi you can just tuck in aero and coast the whole way

bzgl40 - 2010-06-21 12:57 PM Wow, this looks fun.  Looks about what I have been training on so that's good. 


2010-06-21 2:24 PM
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EvD - On the running above.  Last year when I did a run plan you had advised that I do the 4x week run. Has this philosophy changed or are you more basing it off where I was ungodly slow then and just godly slow now?  

On the LR how much should I built it up to?

Thanks for the help. 

As for your brother, I have been working on my tackling skills with this guy.

 




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2010-06-21 2:33 PM
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LOL nice video

You're semi-correct on why I said 4x then and 3x longer this time, not cause of speed but shape.  You're in better shape now and can handle the longer workouts...

LR range is normally 8-12 for an olympic, I think 8-9mi is about the right distance for you... When you start incorporating speed you'll have a better idea of what is right.  If you can't hit your speed workouts with necessary energy you need to either slow down or shorten the long workout...

Newtons1st - 2010-06-21 2:24 PM EvD - On the running above.  Last year when I did a run plan you had advised that I do the 4x week run. Has this philosophy changed or are you more basing it off where I was ungodly slow then and just godly slow now?  

On the LR how much should I built it up to?

Thanks for the help. 

As for your brother, I have been working on my tackling skills with this guy.

 




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsqjM9AEqlU&feature=youtube_gdata 


2010-06-21 2:46 PM
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Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?
2010-06-21 2:51 PM
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Fixed it for ya...

Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 2:46 PM Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?
2010-06-21 3:00 PM
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Okay okay fine, but it's part of my charm. 

evondo - 2010-06-21 3:51 PM Fixed it for ya...

Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 2:46 PM Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?
2010-06-21 3:18 PM
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Is that like a belly button piercing charm... or more like south of the border..... never mind, I don't want the metal detector to go off again! HA!  Happy Monday to You!

Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 3:00 PM Okay okay fine, but it's part of my charm. 

evondo - 2010-06-21 3:51 PM Fixed it for ya...

Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 2:46 PM Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?
2010-06-21 3:24 PM
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Is that a metal detector in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? 

And not to worry, none of those piercings exist any more.  All that's left are my ears. 

Trin2bfast - 2010-06-21 4:18 PM Is that like a belly button piercing charm... or more like south of the border..... never mind, I don't want the metal detector to go off again! HA!  Happy Monday to You!

Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 3:00 PM Okay okay fine, but it's part of my charm. 

evondo - 2010-06-21 3:51 PM Fixed it for ya...

Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 2:46 PM Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?


2010-06-21 4:03 PM
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Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 2:46 PM Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?


I'll take the 'Y" Freedom Sprint vs. BSLT 70.3 (or Pacific Crest 70.3 for that matter) for 2010 - crazy tough.  

I was so amped up for my first super-sprint / Tejas family sprint relay and now the Bridgeland race that this weekend is sort of anti-climatic.  I decided to stop screwing with my bike fit myself and get the Tri On the Run folks to dial the dang thing in this Friday.  I was able to get from knee pain while riding pushed all the way back to knee pain the day after riding; but it's still does not belong.  Let's hope they can rid me of the knee pain all together.  Also hoping a different set of aero bars and more aggressive / better fit will help my bike splits.  I am a bunch of months from a Tri bike. 

Good luck / have a drink for me (H2O) everyone doing any portion of 70.3 or even sprinting the short course like me this weekend!  See ya out there Tiffany & Nikki!
2010-06-21 4:37 PM
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Nicole83 - 2010-06-21 12:46 PM Happy Monday gang!

I love how, when Im' not around, you all actually post about tri-related stuff.    I think I'm a bad influence.


Kim- I'm SO glad that your bike seems to be ok.  That was very lucky.  Now you can stress about the race instead. 

Emma- I have a hydration belt that I use whenever I run outside.  It doesn't bother me at all, and I actually don't know how I would run in the FL heat without it.

Dan- that is about the funniest darn finish that I think I've ever heard.  Tell me that we have video, or at least audio?

To all the kids racing this weekend- I don't envy that weather at ALL!  Are you all excited anyway?


Heard from the mechanic this morning and bike is a-ok.  Doing a big no no and getting it overhauled right now.  Panic pas, this guy is a master.  Bike will be as good as new.

This kid is going to have near perfect weather for her race.  So says the forecast.  Although the one problem with that will be warming up after that 52 degree swim.  I think I'll pack the arm warmers just in case.  Run is going to be awesome though.  There goes all those wasted hot weather training though. 
2010-06-21 5:06 PM
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Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 



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2010-06-21 5:31 PM
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evondo - 2010-06-21 5:06 PM Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 


hmm.. I wonder where everyone else is?

Awesome.
2010-06-21 5:34 PM
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KeriKadi - 2010-06-21 6:31 PM
evondo - 2010-06-21 5:06 PM Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 


hmm.. I wonder where everyone else is?

Awesome.


Very cool.  I also swim solo but it's because I shiver in fear at the start until everyone else has left. 


2010-06-21 5:39 PM
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KeriKadi - 2010-06-21 6:31 PM
evondo - 2010-06-21 5:06 PM Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 


hmm.. I wonder where everyone else is?

Awesome.


I was wondering the same thing.... awesome photo!! 
2010-06-21 7:32 PM
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KeriKadi - 2010-06-21 5:31 PM
evondo - 2010-06-21 5:06 PM Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 


hmm.. I wonder where everyone else is?

Awesome.


Ken posted under me.
My first question was how did they make the water look so pretty.  Oh and this is a race right?  Where is everybody?  No fair EvD doesn't have to deal with a bar fight like the rest of us.
2010-06-21 7:43 PM
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evondo - 2010-06-21 3:06 PM Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 


Awesome picture.  Question for you.  Do you site before breathing or after?  I keep getting conflicting advise.  Tomorrow when I hit the pool it'll all be sighting.  I've not gotten it to be quite natural yet to look while swimming.  I've been looking then breathing though.
2010-06-21 8:30 PM
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It's really personal preference, so I say practice both and see which one you like more.

Personally I breath then sight...

bzgl40 - 2010-06-21 7:43 PM
evondo - 2010-06-21 3:06 PM Best swim pic I've ever had taken was at the last race, had to share...

 


Awesome picture.  Question for you.  Do you site before breathing or after?  I keep getting conflicting advise.  Tomorrow when I hit the pool it'll all be sighting.  I've not gotten it to be quite natural yet to look while swimming.  I've been looking then breathing though.
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