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2012-11-09 7:39 AM
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Well I am hoping that I can get back in with this mentor group. I was on last year for a while and slacked on my correspondence. Need some inspiration and tips for a half IM next year and full IM in 2014.  Hopefully there is not any weird re- initiation to get back in this mg....or if there is maybe I would like that

I was down at IM FL volunteering and watching John, Justin, Linda and  others race. Met David and Jayne, and really had fun watching all the crazy people ...and now I am ready to jump back in.

Did a couple races this past year, half marathon, two sprints and an Olympic. So I hope that you all don't mind if I jump back in. I will do my best to contribute the little knowledge I have, but may be asking lots of questions from all of you veterans.

I am out of commission for two weeks from some surgery, so no working out (I may go crazy), but plan on being back in full swing soon.

Welcome back, Bruce!  Good to meet you.

Thanks David nice to meet you to, did you register for FL 2013?


2012-11-09 10:59 AM
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Hey Bruce!  Welcome back. 

Linda... MRI?

 

2012-11-09 11:06 AM
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In case you missed it and have some time on your hands  here  Nothing better than crushing a cheater.  How this chick lives with herself is beyond me.  So good to know that the sportsstats guys are doing what they can to fight cheating.

 

 

2012-11-09 11:23 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 10:06 AM

In case you missed it and have some time on your hands  here  Nothing better than crushing a cheater.  How this chick lives with herself is beyond me.  So good to know that the sportsstats guys are doing what they can to fight cheating.

 

 

 

FYI all..... You will spend 3 hrs reading it all. But what a crazy story is was yesterday.

Sportsstats are Canadian. We're good peoples. Snowy and cold peoples though.

2012-11-09 12:21 PM
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TrevorC - 2012-11-09 12:23 PM
fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 10:06 AM

In case you missed it and have some time on your hands  here  Nothing better than crushing a cheater.  How this chick lives with herself is beyond me.  So good to know that the sportsstats guys are doing what they can to fight cheating.

 

 

 

FYI all..... You will spend 3 hrs reading it all. But what a crazy story is was yesterday.

Sportsstats are Canadian. We're good peoples. Snowy and cold peoples though.

lol, when i saw your email yesterday i knew you hadn't seen the last twist yet.  GO CANADA!!!

2012-11-09 3:15 PM
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master swimmers... did you guys pay the 75 dollar USMS fee?  or does your program not fall under them. 


2012-11-09 3:40 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 1:15 PMmaster swimmers... did you guys pay the 75 dollar USMS fee?  or does your program not fall under them. 
Yes. Fee. John, can you summarize? 3 hours is too long. We could have run a half marathon (with a friend) in that time!
2012-11-09 4:01 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 1:15 PMmaster swimmers... did you guys pay the 75 dollar USMS fee?  or does your program not fall under them. 
Yes. Fee. John, can you summarize? 3 hours is too long. We could have run a half marathon (with a friend) in that time!

Ha!  Nice.

 

2012-11-09 4:16 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 1:15 PMmaster swimmers... did you guys pay the 75 dollar USMS fee?  or does your program not fall under them. 
Yes. Fee. John, can you summarize? 3 hours is too long. We could have run a half marathon (with a friend) in that time!

 

I'm bummed that I get that joke. 

And yes on the Masters fee.

2012-11-09 9:22 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 1:15 PMmaster swimmers... did you guys pay the 75 dollar USMS fee?  or does your program not fall under them. 
Yes. Fee. John, can you summarize? 3 hours is too long. We could have run a half marathon (with a friend) in that time!
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2012-11-09 9:27 PM
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Another one.

http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012


2012-11-09 9:50 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM </>Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

2012-11-10 7:11 AM
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TrevorC - 2012-11-09 10:50 PM

fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM </>Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

1st or 53rd or last a/g... doesn't matter.   but ok... wow.  

livestrong, bro.

 

edit.. i wonder if he get disbarred to.  i certainly hope so.  and in typical coward fashion he's gone radio silent.  one more gone so i'm good with it. 

 

 


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2012-11-10 10:12 AM
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TrevorC - 2012-11-09 10:50 PM

fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM </>Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

1st or 53rd or last a/g... doesn't matter.   but ok... wow.  

livestrong, bro.

 

edit.. i wonder if he get disbarred to.  i certainly hope so.  and in typical coward fashion he's gone radio silent.  one more gone so i'm good with it. 

 

 

Don't start with me too!! I agree with you. I just meant who is this guy? never heard of him.

Whether you are first or last is irrelevant. You cheat, you pay the piper.

 

2012-11-10 10:14 AM
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TrevorC - 2012-11-09 10:50 PM

fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM </>Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

1st or 53rd or last a/g... doesn't matter.   but ok... wow.  

livestrong, bro.

 

edit.. i wonder if he get disbarred to.  i certainly hope so.  and in typical coward fashion he's gone radio silent.  one more gone so i'm good with it. 

 

 

Don't start with me too!! I agree with you. I just meant who is this guy? never heard of him.

Whether you are first or last is irrelevant. You cheat, you pay the piper.

 

DON'T YOU BACKTRACK NOW!!!!

i know.   :-)   

2012-11-10 10:54 AM
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TrevorC - 2012-11-09 10:50 PM

fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM </>Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

1st or 53rd or last a/g... doesn't matter.   but ok... wow.  

livestrong, bro.

 

edit.. i wonder if he get disbarred to.  i certainly hope so.  and in typical coward fashion he's gone radio silent.  one more gone so i'm good with it. 

 

 

Don't start with me too!! I agree with you. I just meant who is this guy? never heard of him.

Whether you are first or last is irrelevant. You cheat, you pay the piper.

 

DON'T YOU BACKTRACK NOW!!!!

i know.   :-)   

I'm not reading that one. The other one was too depressing. I really don't have anything to add here, I just wanted to fix the quotes.



2012-11-10 11:13 AM
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TrevorC - 2012-11-10 11:12 AM
fattyfatfat - 2012-11-10 6:11 AM
TrevorC - 2012-11-09 10:50 PM

fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

1st or 53rd or last a/g... doesn't matter.   but ok... wow.  

livestrong, bro.

 

edit.. i wonder if he get disbarred to.  i certainly hope so.  and in typical coward fashion he's gone radio silent.  one more gone so i'm good with it. 

 

 

Don't start with me too!! I agree with you. I just meant who is this guy? never heard of him.

Whether you are first or last is irrelevant. You cheat, you pay the piper.

 

DON'T YOU BACKTRACK NOW!!!!

i know.   :-)   

I'm not reading that one. The other one was too depressing. I really don't have anything to add here, I just wanted to fix the quotes.

Agree. Sad. Dang.
2012-11-10 11:28 AM
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kt65 - 2012-11-10 12:13 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-10 11:14 AM
TrevorC - 2012-11-10 11:12 AM
fattyfatfat - 2012-11-10 6:11 AM
TrevorC - 2012-11-09 10:50 PM

fattyfatfat - 2012-11-09 8:27 PM </>Another one. http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-fretta1192012[/QUOTE]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOO?????

Wow he has to forfeit a 53rd at the ITU World Triathlon in San Diego last May.

Never heard of him. Fringe guy trying to get better and busted!

1st or 53rd or last a/g... doesn't matter.   but ok... wow.  

livestrong, bro.

 

edit.. i wonder if he get disbarred to.  i certainly hope so.  and in typical coward fashion he's gone radio silent.  one more gone so i'm good with it. 

 

 

Don't start with me too!! I agree with you. I just meant who is this guy? never heard of him.

Whether you are first or last is irrelevant. You cheat, you pay the piper.

 

DON'T YOU BACKTRACK NOW!!!!

i know.   :-)   

I'm not reading that one. The other one was too depressing. I really don't have anything to add here, I just wanted to fix the quotes.

Agree. Sad. Dang.

this one is more infuriating because he's a lawyer and a pro.  the chick at florida.. yeah man, sad. 

2012-11-10 11:30 AM
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OK off cheating for a second..  what do you guys think of this.   Not sure I agree with all of it.  But the premise I get. 

2012-11-10 1:59 PM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-10 11:30 AM

OK off cheating for a second..  what do you guys think of this.   Not sure I agree with all of it.  But the premise I get. 




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2012-11-11 11:02 AM
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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-10 9:30 AM

OK off cheating for a second..  what do you guys think of this.   Not sure I agree with all of it.  But the premise I get. 

I'd rather go into ironman knowing I put the time, distance, and effort in rather than this theory, but to each their own.....


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fattyfatfat - 2012-11-10 9:30 AM

OK off cheating for a second..  what do you guys think of this.   Not sure I agree with all of it.  But the premise I get. 

I'd rather go into ironman knowing I put the time, distance, and effort in rather than this theory, but to each their own.....

Yeah, and I don't have the cycling background of someone like Tyler Stewart... Not sure the four-hour rides will work for mere mortals!! I do agree (FOR ME) with the swim stuff, though. Second time around I swam the same time as the first and put in much less time and yardage -- to go faster I'd need to step it up, way up, and that just don't make triathlon sense.

The easiest solution? Just don't enter Ironman. Problem solved. Ha!!

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OK off cheating for a second..  what do you guys think of this.   Not sure I agree with all of it.  But the premise I get. 


Why did you delete your post?
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Just got back from a group training run for the 50 mile ultra in April.  We did one 16.5 mi. loop to get a preview of the course.  I haven't run anything more than 9 miles since last April.  Needless to say, it was a tough run, but I got it done.  3hr 31 min. 

It was awesome, because about 25 people from all over northern Indiana came out, quite a few of them were women, and it was a beautiful warm day.  Ultra runners are cool.  They go very low-tech and they drink beer as a recovery drink.  Laughing

Bruce, it was great meeting you in FL and hanging out. Welcome back to the group.  What's are your winter plans?

How did our racers do this weekend?  Did I miss those posts. 

John, I'm still working my way through the forum about the FL Ironman cheater girl.  I think I'm on page 10.  At this point it's looking like she might have actually done the entire race?  For some reason, I can't stop reading--kinda like watching a tragic accident in slow motion.  ha!

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OK off cheating for a second..  what do you guys think of this.   Not sure I agree with all of it.  But the premise I get. 


Why did you delete your post?

Well, that's weird.  I added it to it and corrected the grammar.

In a nutshell,  I think  you can do less volume and still perform well during IM.  My first I was on the high volume plan, my second about 30% less volume and my third about 20% less volume from year 2.  I don't think 12 hour weeks would cut it for me, but primarily because I am still slow relatively speaking.  If I was doing 7:30s on the run and 22mph on the bike, it would probably work.  I do think that bike volume can help your running and I have proof of it in year 1.  My running was way off due to injury, yet i put down a very respectable IM marathon.  Someone in the MG asked me if I felt that putting as much time into swimming as I did this year was worth it.  I would have to say based on my result, no.  While I still hope to improve in 2013, I will be putting far less time against it.  Of course, I think I am an oddball when it comes to swimming so I doubt anything I really have to say on the topic is worth noting.

I think that was pretty much it.

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