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 2012-12-15 3:15 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert  1255    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania |  Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - ClosedQuestion (no smart A$$ answers, please). Funny answers are ok! How do you know when you need more cushioning in your long distance shoes? I am second guessing myself on my decision to run the marathon in Saucony A4s. I know I don't want heavy shoes, but I'm thinking ones with a little more cushion may be better. Anyone running long distance in the Brooks Pure line? Ok two questions.
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| 2012-12-15 5:14 PM in reply to: #4536400 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Jackie, if you're used to more cushioning, don't change that for the marathon. It is always a compromise with weight, but for me cushioning would be more important. Fun competition this morning at the running club involving run to the beach, swim, 5k run out and back. It was done in pairs and we had to come back together. I don't know the swim distance, we just had to round one bouy. Cheating was allowed and even encouraged for fun. Fins, cutting corners, stealing shoes was rampant. The biggest cheats got Lance Armstrong drink bottle. 3 points today were well deserved (30k MTB commuting included). Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 10 -Run 12 - Rest 2 - Total 25 Time 18:32:46Matthew Swim 6 - Bike 7 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 19 Time 22:57:35 Jackie Swim 0 - Bike 3 - Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 16 - Time 22:51:29 Mark Swim 2 - Bike 6- Run 6 Rest 5 Total 14 Time 13:35:00 Jim Swim 0- Bike 5- Run 8 Rest 3 - Total 13 -Time 10:00:33 Ernesto Swim 2 - Bike 4 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 12 - Time 14:00'31" Charlotte Swim 0 - Bike 7- Run 3 Rest 3 Total 10 (To Goal: 20) Time 6:00 (To Goal: 14:00) Gabe Swim 0 - Bike 5 - Run 4 - Rest 1 - Total 9 - Time 9:35:55 Samy Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 7 - Rest 5 - Total 7 Time 4:50:45 Joe Swim 4 - Bike 1 - Run 2 - Rest 1 - Total 7 Time 4:45:12 Chris Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 6 - Rest 7 - Total 6 Time 4:50:30 Barry Swim 0 - Bike 1 - Run 2 - Rest 7 - Total 3 - Time 1:41:41 Scott Swim 1 Bike 0 - Run 1 - Rest 2 - Total -2 - Time 2:18 Edited by markz 2012-12-15 5:17 PM |
| 2012-12-15 8:58 PM in reply to: #4536400 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed jackiep - 2012-12-15 3:15 PM Question (no smart A$$ answers, please). Funny answers are ok! How do you know when you need more cushioning in your long distance shoes? I am second guessing myself on my decision to run the marathon in Saucony A4s. I know I don't want heavy shoes, but I'm thinking ones with a little more cushion may be better. Anyone running long distance in the Brooks Pure line? Ok two questions.
Don't worry about it Jackie. Just not that big of deal. Dance with the date that brung you. I've run two marathons in VFF's (no cushioning) and 1 in Newton racing flats (a little cushioning). You don't absolutely need cushioning. If you can do your long runs in the shoes you are currently using, you can do the marathon. Me. 6 mile run in 35 degree steady rain with run club through lots of slush. Had lots of fun, not uncomfortable at all. (CWX running tights, long sleeve technical shirt and tight technical jacket.) People in cars were literally shaking their heads in disbelief as we ran by. Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 10 -Run 12 - Rest 2 - Total 25 Time 18:32:46 Matthew Swim 6 - Bike 7 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 19 Time 22:57:35 Jackie Swim 0 - Bike 3 - Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 16 - Time 22:51:29 Mark Swim 2 - Bike 6- Run 6 Rest 5 Total 14 Time 13:35:00 Jim Swim 0- Bike 5- Run 8 Rest 3 - Total 13 -Time 10:00:33 Ernesto Swim 2 - Bike 4 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 12 - Time 14:00'31" Charlotte Swim 0 - Bike 7- Run 3 Rest 3 Total 10 (To Goal: 20) Time 6:00 (To Goal: 14:00) Gabe Swim 0 - Bike 5 - Run 4 - Rest 1 - Total 9 - Time 9:35:55 Samy Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 7 - Rest 5 - Total 7 Time 4:50:45 Joe Swim 4 - Bike 1 - Run 2 - Rest 1 - Total 7 Time 4:45:12 Chris Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 7 - Rest 7 - Total 6 Time 5:50:25 Barry Swim 0 - Bike 1 - Run 2 - Rest 7 - Total 3 - Time 1:41:41 Scott Swim 1 Bike 0 - Run 1 - Rest 2 - Total -2 - Time 2:18 |
| 2012-12-16 8:26 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 30' WU on drainer then 6 miles on dreadmill. Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-16 12:10 PM in reply to: #4536785 |
| Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 35 minutes on computrainer Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-16 3:57 PM in reply to: #4536947 |
| Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed charlotte hobbs - 2012-12-16 12:10 PM 41 more minutes on computrainer Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-16 4:48 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1255 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Longest run ever, 16 miles! At the pace I was running, felt like I could have kept going. I think that's a good sign. Only 10 more weeks. Mitch, you're killing us. Hope you're getting something out of all those workouts besides that tin foil medal Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-16 4:53 PM in reply to: #4537105 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 60 minutes on the dreadmill. Yesterday rest, if shopping with three teenaged girls is rest. Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-16 5:42 PM in reply to: #4537106 |
| Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 33 minute run Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 Matthew Swim 6 - Bike 7 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 19 Time 22:57:35 |
| 2012-12-16 6:30 PM in reply to: #4537105 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed jackiep - 2012-12-16 5:48 PMMitch, you're killing us. Hope you're getting something out of all those workouts besides that tin foil medal I thought it was all about the tin foil medal? In all seriousness I'm just trying to get used to consistency and build base doing it. I started the hansons half marathon plan this week so I'm at six days of running per week. Goal is to bike 3 or 4 and swim 3 as well.I think you're kicking butt on your hansons plan! Seems like you're seeing real improvements in fitness? |
| 2012-12-16 7:43 PM in reply to: #4537140 |
Veteran 445 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Updating for the few workouts I have to add Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 Matthew Swim 6 - Bike 7 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 19 Time 22:57:35 |
| 2012-12-17 6:55 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Extreme Veteran 576 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Run and swim today. Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 Matthew Swim 7 - Bike 7 - Run 7 - Rest 3 - Total 21 Time 24:27:35 Jackie Swim 0 - Bike 3 - Run 14 - Rest 2 - Total 17 - Time 25:43:19 Mark Swim 2 - Bike 6- Run 6 Rest 5 Total 14 Time 13:35:00 Jim Swim 0- Bike 5- Run 9 Rest 4 - Total 14 -Time 11:00:33 Ernesto Swim 2 - Bike 4 - Run 6 - Rest 2 - Total 12 - Time 14:00'31" Charlotte Swim 0 - Bike 8- Run 4 Rest 3 Total 12 (To Goal: 18) Time 7:49 (To Goal: 12:11) Gabe Swim 0 - Bike 5 - Run 4 - Rest 1 - Total 9 - Time 9:35:55 Samy Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 7 - Rest 5 - Total 7 Time 4:50:45 Joe Swim 4 - Bike 1 - Run 2 - Rest 1 - Total 7 Time 4:45:12 Chris Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 7 - Rest 7 - Total 6 Time 5:50:25 Barry Swim 1 - Bike 2 - Run 2 - Rest 7 - Total 5 - Time 2:58:52 Scott Swim 1 Bike 0 - Run 1 - Rest 2 - Total -2 - Time 2:18 |
| 2012-12-17 7:10 AM in reply to: #4537524 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Ok, I am toying with a potentially stupid thought, and want to throw this out to see what the more expeienced runners think. I am 67.18 miles short of 1000 miles for the year with 2 weeks left. By the way I missed this, but I doubled last years run miles in November. I worked my miles back up and am supposed to do 26 this week and 27 next, leaving me 14 miles short of 1000. I am considering doing a series of short runs, below MAF, on my non-running days to make up the difference and give my ego (key word) a hug. Ernesto, Chris, others, what do you think or in the spirit of the Christmas story is this the running equivalent of "you'll shoot your eye out kid"? |
| 2012-12-17 7:13 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed I've been a week in Orlando already and between the long nights with the baby, the parks and the shopping, I've only been able to get 1 50 min run done. Very soon even Santa will be able to kick my butt in a triathlon, but this should get me some nice family support for 2013Hey Jackie, its all about the tin foil medal! Great job following your marathon training and Mitch, great job with the Dec challengeE, sorry to hear about your early retirement from cycle cross racing, but seems like the right decision if you want to survive your crazy 2013 tri season Edited by sirgab 2012-12-17 7:15 AM |
| 2012-12-17 8:16 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Updating for the weekend, on Saturday I rode close to 40 with a different group out of a different place, and then drove to a race (criterium) where I got 2nd place after a thirty five minute breakaway. It was the highest power output ever for a workout, so pretty cool, and lost first place by about a bike and a half of distance. On Sunday I ran two hours, good weather. Last night I barely slept, got called out to work at 2:50AM (emergency). I'm sleeeeeepy!!!! Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 2 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-17 8:43 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Jackie - you jinx'd me! I woke up this morning and no way felt like working out. In my commitment to listen to my body more I took today as a rest day knowing that I can rearrange my workouts and still have a great week. E - awesome job on the Crit. Very impressive! Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 3 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-17 8:47 AM in reply to: #4537541 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed JBacarella - 2012-12-17 7:10 AM Ok, I am toying with a potentially stupid thought, and want to throw this out to see what the more expeienced runners think. I am 67.18 miles short of 1000 miles for the year with 2 weeks left. By the way I missed this, but I doubled last years run miles in November. I worked my miles back up and am supposed to do 26 this week and 27 next, leaving me 14 miles short of 1000. I am considering doing a series of short runs, below MAF, on my non-running days to make up the difference and give my ego (key word) a hug. Ernesto, Chris, others, what do you think or in the spirit of the Christmas story is this the running equivalent of "you'll shoot your eye out kid"? An extra 14 miles over two weeks, run slowly, isn't going to hurt you (knock on wood). Doesn't really matter how you do it. I would consider just adding an extra mile or two to your running days, and still taking the off days off. |
| 2012-12-17 8:51 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 8 mile treadmill run yesterday. Too icy to run outdoors. Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 3 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 Matthew Swim 7 - Bike 7 - Run 7 - Rest 3 - Total 21 Time 24:27:35 Jackie Swim 0 - Bike 3 - Run 14 - Rest 2 - Total 17 - Time 25:43:19 Ernesto Swim 2 - Bike 6 - Run 7 - Rest 3 - Total 15 - Time 19:16'16" Mark Swim 2 - Bike 6- Run 6 Rest 5 Total 14 Time 13:35:00 Jim Swim 0- Bike 5- Run 9 Rest 4 - Total 14 -Time 11:00:33 Charlotte Swim 0 - Bike 8- Run 4 Rest 3 Total 12 (To Goal: 18) Time 7:49 (To Goal: 12:11) Gabe Swim 0 - Bike 5 - Run 4 - Rest 1 - Total 9 - Time 9:35:55 Chris Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 8 - Rest 7 - Total 8 Time 7:08:34 Samy Swim 0 - Bike 0 - Run 7 - Rest 5 - Total 7 Time 4:50:45 Joe Swim 4 - Bike 1 - Run 2 - Rest 1 - Total 7 Time 4:45:12 Barry Swim 1 - Bike 2 - Run 2 - Rest 7 - Total 5 - Time 2:58:52 Scott Swim 1 Bike 0 - Run 1 - Rest 2 - Total -2 - Time 2:18 |
| 2012-12-17 9:32 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 1780 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed In week 4 of my HM training and have a question. My plan calls for 4 runs/week. 2 short runs (@MAF), 1 middle run at pace, and 1 long run (this week 7 miles - goes up to 12 miles). According to the plan, the long run should be done 30-90 seconds slower than pace. This being my first HM, my first objective is to finish. BUT, the competitive person in me does have a couple of target times - goal 2: beating 2:20 (10:45 pace) - goal 3: beating 2:15 (10:15 pace). I am planning to start the race at 10:15 pace and assess at 6 miles (and every two miles after). I am training as if my race pace is 10:00. As of now, my pace runs have been at 10:00, and my long runs at 11:30. Questions: Should I try to do my long runs faster? 30-90 secs. slower than pace is a big gap. So far I finished the runs in fairly good shape, but are unsure about the benefits of increasing pace vs. injury risk. Maybe try 11:00 and see how it goes? Any general comments about strategy? Take into account that I plan to revisit race strategy closer to race time, once I can see how my training has been going. |
| 2012-12-17 10:16 AM in reply to: #4537663 |
Expert 819 In the Shadow of the Big House | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed chris2533 - 2012-12-17 9:47 AM JBacarella - 2012-12-17 7:10 AM Ok, I am toying with a potentially stupid thought, and want to throw this out to see what the more expeienced runners think. I am 67.18 miles short of 1000 miles for the year with 2 weeks left. By the way I missed this, but I doubled last years run miles in November. I worked my miles back up and am supposed to do 26 this week and 27 next, leaving me 14 miles short of 1000. I am considering doing a series of short runs, below MAF, on my non-running days to make up the difference and give my ego (key word) a hug. Ernesto, Chris, others, what do you think or in the spirit of the Christmas story is this the running equivalent of "you'll shoot your eye out kid"? An extra 14 miles over two weeks, run slowly, isn't going to hurt you (knock on wood). Doesn't really matter how you do it. I would consider just adding an extra mile or two to your running days, and still taking the off days off.I agree with Chris. Just add a little extra slow mileage each of your run days and still take the rest days off. Thought I'd check in here and let you all know how things are progressing. Up to last night there has been no training activity for me in two weeks other than starting a TRX class to get me through the winter. The ankle was feeling pretty good. No pain to speak of in about three days. I had been invited to a fun run with a bunch of my friends to celebrate the holiday, nothing stressful, very casual, very slow- "12k's of Christmas" theme. (drink and food item with each K completed) and decided I would go and see how things would feel. Well, I made it exactly 1k and had to pull up and stop running. I limped back to the house and started the ice therapy again. The pain in the ankle is back worse than before. I'm scheduling with an Ortho now. Hoping they don't put me in a boot. |
| 2012-12-17 2:05 PM in reply to: #4537860 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed gobluedds - 2012-12-17 11:16 AM chris2533 - 2012-12-17 9:47 AM JBacarella - 2012-12-17 7:10 AM Ok, I am toying with a potentially stupid thought, and want to throw this out to see what the more expeienced runners think. I am 67.18 miles short of 1000 miles for the year with 2 weeks left. By the way I missed this, but I doubled last years run miles in November. I worked my miles back up and am supposed to do 26 this week and 27 next, leaving me 14 miles short of 1000. I am considering doing a series of short runs, below MAF, on my non-running days to make up the difference and give my ego (key word) a hug. Ernesto, Chris, others, what do you think or in the spirit of the Christmas story is this the running equivalent of "you'll shoot your eye out kid"? An extra 14 miles over two weeks, run slowly, isn't going to hurt you (knock on wood). Doesn't really matter how you do it. I would consider just adding an extra mile or two to your running days, and still taking the off days off.I agree with Chris. Just add a little extra slow mileage each of your run days and still take the rest days off. Thought I'd check in here and let you all know how things are progressing. Up to last night there has been no training activity for me in two weeks other than starting a TRX class to get me through the winter. The ankle was feeling pretty good. No pain to speak of in about three days. I had been invited to a fun run with a bunch of my friends to celebrate the holiday, nothing stressful, very casual, very slow- "12k's of Christmas" theme. (drink and food item with each K completed) and decided I would go and see how things would feel. Well, I made it exactly 1k and had to pull up and stop running. I limped back to the house and started the ice therapy again. The pain in the ankle is back worse than before. I'm scheduling with an Ortho now. Hoping they don't put me in a boot. Scott - sorry to hear that your leg is still causing you diffculty. Hope your doc can fix you soon! |
| 2012-12-17 3:36 PM in reply to: #4537672 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 59:40 for runch Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 3 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
| 2012-12-17 3:39 PM in reply to: #4537860 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed gobluedds - 2012-12-17 10:16 AM chris2533 - 2012-12-17 9:47 AM JBacarella - 2012-12-17 7:10 AM Ok, I am toying with a potentially stupid thought, and want to throw this out to see what the more expeienced runners think. I am 67.18 miles short of 1000 miles for the year with 2 weeks left. By the way I missed this, but I doubled last years run miles in November. I worked my miles back up and am supposed to do 26 this week and 27 next, leaving me 14 miles short of 1000. I am considering doing a series of short runs, below MAF, on my non-running days to make up the difference and give my ego (key word) a hug. Ernesto, Chris, others, what do you think or in the spirit of the Christmas story is this the running equivalent of "you'll shoot your eye out kid"? An extra 14 miles over two weeks, run slowly, isn't going to hurt you (knock on wood). Doesn't really matter how you do it. I would consider just adding an extra mile or two to your running days, and still taking the off days off.I agree with Chris. Just add a little extra slow mileage each of your run days and still take the rest days off. Thought I'd check in here and let you all know how things are progressing. Up to last night there has been no training activity for me in two weeks other than starting a TRX class to get me through the winter. The ankle was feeling pretty good. No pain to speak of in about three days. I had been invited to a fun run with a bunch of my friends to celebrate the holiday, nothing stressful, very casual, very slow- "12k's of Christmas" theme. (drink and food item with each K completed) and decided I would go and see how things would feel. Well, I made it exactly 1k and had to pull up and stop running. I limped back to the house and started the ice therapy again. The pain in the ankle is back worse than before. I'm scheduling with an Ortho now. Hoping they don't put me in a boot. I hope you heal soon. The upside it kind of stinks to run right now. The choices are the dreadmill or outside where it is cold, wet, grey and dank. I will regret this, but I can't wait for the snow. I hate this time of year when it looks like Moscow. |
| 2012-12-17 5:58 PM in reply to: #4538632 |
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| 2012-12-17 7:39 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Adding in 4 swims. Glas to see that I am winning the swim portion of the contest. PT is helping, but work and life have been completely unbearable. Add to that lots of X-Mas parties, too much wine and you get the picture. Weight is fine, but overall health (mental and physical) is hurting. Mitch Swim 3 - Bike 11 -Run 13 - Rest 3 - Total 27 Time 19:57:15 |
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