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2010-06-25 10:55 AM
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D.K. - 2010-06-25 11:46 AM

mrbbrad:  would you mind not making fun of this sports? 
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Hey, I simply quoted another poster. "Flailing... like fairiess" weren't my words but it is a sentiment with which I agree. I don't frequent this thread but do check in every now and then and that softball was just hanging there so I took a swing. But then two people took shots at me. Not at a sport, at me personally. So I retaliated, but I still kept it focused on the sport.


2010-06-25 11:02 AM
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mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 9:55 AM
D.K. - 2010-06-25 11:46 AM

mrbbrad:  would you mind not making fun of this sports? 
If you don't like it, you are very welcomed not to participate (either in the form of watching, playing for discussing). 
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Hey, I simply quoted another poster. "Flailing... like fairiess" weren't my words but it is a sentiment with which I agree. I don't frequent this thread but do check in every now and then and that softball was just hanging there so I took a swing. But then two people took shots at me. Not at a sport, at me personally. So I retaliated, but I still kept it focused on the sport.

 

Yep - you were the victim of a non provoked  personal attack of horrendous proportions.. now run along

2010-06-25 11:02 AM
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Group H is wide open for this afternoon.  Should be interesting to see how Spain and Switzerland come out attacking.

2010-06-25 11:04 AM
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mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 11:55 AM
D.K. - 2010-06-25 11:46 AM

mrbbrad:  would you mind not making fun of this sports? 
If you don't like it, you are very welcomed not to participate (either in the form of watching, playing for discussing). 
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Hey, I simply quoted another poster. "Flailing... like fairiess" weren't my words but it is a sentiment with which I agree. I don't frequent this thread but do check in every now and then and that softball was just hanging there so I took a swing. But then two people took shots at me. Not at a sport, at me personally. So I retaliated, but I still kept it focused on the sport.


Yeah, bcart was expressing frustrations with the divings (not all games and all teams do that - in fact, the very same team of Purtugal did not dive in the entire match against N. Korea), and you came in and generalize this as "Yup, that's the World Cup soccer in a nutshell."

2010-06-25 11:07 AM
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-11 goal diff for the N Koreans in only 3 matches.  wow.

2010-06-25 11:09 AM
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LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 10:07 AM

-11 goal diff for the N Koreans in only 3 matches.  wow.

 

I believe that will be lower than the number of players that defect or go missing from the hotel tonight!



2010-06-25 11:10 AM
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D.K. - 2010-06-25 12:04 PM

Don't bother wasting your energy on him.

2010-06-25 11:13 AM
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LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 10:07 AM

-11 goal diff for the N Koreans in only 3 matches.  wow.

 

I believe that will be lower than the number of players that defect or go missing from the hotel tonight!


It was speculated that the 0-7 lost to Purtugal was due to the team knowing thier country going to broadcast the game LIVE, so the coach decided to take an "all offense" approach, leaving the own side empty. 
Note that N. Korea don't do live broadcast of games playing ouverseas. 
2010-06-25 11:19 AM
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D.K. - 2010-06-25 12:04 PM
mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 11:55 AM
D.K. - 2010-06-25 11:46 AM

mrbbrad:  would you mind not making fun of this sports? 
If you don't like it, you are very welcomed not to participate (either in the form of watching, playing for discussing). 
Thanks.



Hey, I simply quoted another poster. "Flailing... like fairiess" weren't my words but it is a sentiment with which I agree. I don't frequent this thread but do check in every now and then and that softball was just hanging there so I took a swing. But then two people took shots at me. Not at a sport, at me personally. So I retaliated, but I still kept it focused on the sport.


Yeah, bcart was expressing frustrations with the divings (not all games and all teams do that - in fact, the very same team of Purtugal did not dive in the entire match against N. Korea), and you came in and generalize this as "Yup, that's the World Cup soccer in a nutshell."



I hardly ever watch soccer but see it every time I do watch so in my personal experience most games and most teams do it. I've seen U11 girls teams do it. I've heard coaches "suggest" it. It is one of the biggest problems I have with soccer. I saw some tattooed tough guy looking player do it in a game that was on yesterday (it's on in my workplace constantly). Guy was inked all over, shaved head, bad a$$ attitude, but he rolled around on the ground clutching his leg like a little girl. A few moments later he's up and running around again. I saw another game where they replayed a "tackle" in slow motion and as the one guy was falling he was already looking for the ref and waving his arms. Weak.
2010-06-25 11:31 AM
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Bcozican - 2010-06-25 12:09 PM

LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 10:07 AM

-11 goal diff for the N Koreans in only 3 matches.  wow.

 

I believe that will be lower than the number of players that defect or go missing from the hotel tonight!

I would certainly not want to be on that flight back.

2010-06-25 11:38 AM
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mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 12:19 PM
I hardly ever watch soccer but see it every time I do watch so in my personal experience most games and most teams do it. I've seen U11 girls teams do it. I've heard coaches "suggest" it. It is one of the biggest problems I have with soccer. I saw some tattooed tough guy looking player do it in a game that was on yesterday (it's on in my workplace constantly). Guy was inked all over, shaved head, bad a$$ attitude, but he rolled around on the ground clutching his leg like a little girl. A few moments later he's up and running around again. I saw another game where they replayed a "tackle" in slow motion and as the one guy was falling he was already looking for the ref and waving his arms. Weak.


Yeah... cause we never see that in football or hockey.

It happens in every sport... get over it.


2010-06-25 12:07 PM
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JChristoff - 2010-06-25 11:38 AM
mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 12:19 PM I hardly ever watch soccer but see it every time I do watch so in my personal experience most games and most teams do it. I've seen U11 girls teams do it. I've heard coaches "suggest" it. It is one of the biggest problems I have with soccer. I saw some tattooed tough guy looking player do it in a game that was on yesterday (it's on in my workplace constantly). Guy was inked all over, shaved head, bad a$$ attitude, but he rolled around on the ground clutching his leg like a little girl. A few moments later he's up and running around again. I saw another game where they replayed a "tackle" in slow motion and as the one guy was falling he was already looking for the ref and waving his arms. Weak.
Yeah... cause we never see that in football or hockey. It happens in every sport... get over it.

Don't forget NBA.  I think there is a "Stop the Flop" website somewhere. 

2010-06-25 12:19 PM
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D.K. - 2010-06-25 11:48 AM 
Now North Korea had degraded from the "Mysterious team" who broke Brazil's goal and losing to Brazil 1-2 to the team that allows the most goals in. 


The North Korea team Laison Officer denies all rumours that 4 players have defected...

Apparently all of them returned back to the team when they were informed that defection would result in their families being sent to Hard Labour Camp #19... as a reward for returning to North Korea the players and their familes get to remain in Labour Camp #7, which is renowned for its lower mortality rates and a minimum-once-a-day allotment of rice. Yay for Kim-Jong Il.

 
2010-06-25 12:27 PM
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With France, Italy, Greece out and Spain in serious danger (deciding group H games are on soon) we could have the FIGS out of the turnament (like the economic PIGS, except Portugal survived and Italy takes Ireland's place)

A few stats:
13 Euro teams made the World Cup Finals - 6 will (probably) advance
6 African teams made the World Cup Finals - 1 will advance
3 Asian teams made the World Cup Finals - 2 will advance
3 North American teams made the World Cup Finals - 2 will advance
2 Oceania teams made the World Cup Finals - 0 will advance
5 South American teams made the World Cup Finals - ALL 5 will advance - and all 5 will likely win their round-robin groupings.

I would suggest that this WC will be won by a team from South America - ARG, BRA, CHIL, PAR or URU
2010-06-25 12:32 PM
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JChristoff - 2010-06-25 11:38 AM
mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 12:19 PM I hardly ever watch soccer but see it every time I do watch so in my personal experience most games and most teams do it. I've seen U11 girls teams do it. I've heard coaches "suggest" it. It is one of the biggest problems I have with soccer. I saw some tattooed tough guy looking player do it in a game that was on yesterday (it's on in my workplace constantly). Guy was inked all over, shaved head, bad a$$ attitude, but he rolled around on the ground clutching his leg like a little girl. A few moments later he's up and running around again. I saw another game where they replayed a "tackle" in slow motion and as the one guy was falling he was already looking for the ref and waving his arms. Weak.
Yeah... cause we never see that in football or hockey. It happens in every sport... get over it.

Don't forget NBA.  I think there is a "Stop the Flop" website somewhere. 



I'll give you hockey and I'll take your word about the NBA. That league is unwatchable. But not in football. Almost every player on every play in football gets hit with more force than the soccer players who writhe in agony when they get kicked on the shin guard. We can debate the protective gear aspect if you want but the physical force on the body is much greater in football and occurs much more often.

Do athletes in every sport try to work the officials? Yes. Do football players roll around on the ground feigning injuries? Only when they drop a TD pass and have to make it look like they were hurt Flopping on the ground trying to stall the game or get a penalty called on the other team does not happen in football the way it does in soccer. It just doesn't and to try to draw that comparison is really grasping at straws. You did use the sarc  font though so I'll cut you some slack. Of course they are all a bunch of Nancy's compared to rugby players.

Oh, and I'll get over or not get over that which I choose to get over or not get over, thankyouverymuch.


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2010-06-25 12:35 PM
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mgalanter - 2010-06-25 1:27 PM With France, Italy, Greece out and Spain in serious danger (deciding group H games are on soon) we could have the FIGS out of the turnament (like the economic PIGS, except Portugal survived and Italy takes Ireland's place)

A few stats:
13 Euro teams made the World Cup Finals - 6 will (probably) advance
6 African teams made the World Cup Finals - 1 will advance
3 Asian teams made the World Cup Finals - 2 will advance
3 North American teams made the World Cup Finals - 2 will advance
2 Oceania teams made the World Cup Finals - 0 will advance
5 South American teams made the World Cup Finals - ALL 5 will advance - and all 5 will likely win their round-robin groupings.

I would suggest that this WC will be won by a team from South America - ARG, BRA, CHIL, PAR or URU

So why the shift, do you think? 

Could the level of play and competition have improved within the Americas?

Does it have to do with an increase in the Americas players going to European leagues?

Or is it just cyclical and next WC it will be someone else? 



2010-06-25 12:43 PM
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Note to everyone:

I didn't start this thread to get into a debate over which sport is better or why someone may not like soccer.  If that's what you want to discuss today then go start your own thread.

 

Thank you.

2010-06-25 12:49 PM
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mgalanter - 2010-06-25 1:27 PM With France, Italy, Greece out and Spain in serious danger (deciding group H games are on soon) we could have the FIGS out of the turnament (like the economic PIGS, except Portugal survived and Italy takes Ireland's place)

A few stats:
13 Euro teams made the World Cup Finals - 6 will (probably) advance
6 African teams made the World Cup Finals - 1 will advance
3 Asian teams made the World Cup Finals - 2 will advance
3 North American teams made the World Cup Finals - 2 will advance
2 Oceania teams made the World Cup Finals - 0 will advance
5 South American teams made the World Cup Finals - ALL 5 will advance - and all 5 will likely win their round-robin groupings.

I would suggest that this WC will be won by a team from South America - ARG, BRA, CHIL, PAR or URU

So why the shift, do you think? 

Could the level of play and competition have improved within the Americas?

Does it have to do with an increase in the Americas players going to European leagues?

Or is it just cyclical and next WC it will be someone else? 


Mexico has always been big in soccer.  They are almost "S. American" in terms of their level. 
WIth the sports getting more popular in the country, more resourses is put in and teams are more motivated.  As a national team USA has been quite good this year.  Kids having the opportunities playing in European leagues also help.

As for the Europeans, multiple factors contributing to their failure this year.
After the 2006 WC, even though Italy got the first place, they went back home and immediately faced with dealing with the Serie A scandal that involves top teams like Juventus, Inter Milan etc. 
France got the wrong coach.  He chose players not base on their ability but by matching horoscopes.  I read about him avoiding scorpios when picking his teams.  And the French players have no respect to him (boycotting team practice etc). 
Germany is prague by injuries. 

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LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 12:43 PM

Note to everyone:

I didn't start this thread to get into a debate over which sport is better or why someone may not like soccer.  If that's what you want to discuss today then go start your own thread.

 

Thank you.

Yes, thank you. This thread exists to discuss the WC. I don't care to engage in this debate. I like to watch futbol, and don't care to try to convert those who don't want to give it a chance.

Eagerly awaiting the Group H matches. Should be good.

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LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 12:43 PM

Note to everyone:

I didn't start this thread to get into a debate over which sport is better or why someone may not like soccer.  If that's what you want to discuss today then go start your own thread.

 

Thank you.

Yes, thank you. This thread exists to discuss the WC. I don't care to engage in this debate. I like to watch futbol, and don't care to try to convert those who don't want to give it a chance.

 



World Cup - Spoilers.... I thought I was supposed to try to spoil it for you. My bad.

The flopping spoils it for me. That and those damn plastic horns. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

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LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 1:35 PM

So why the shift, do you think? 

Could the level of play and competition have improved within the Americas?

Does it have to do with an increase in the Americas players going to European leagues?

Or is it just cyclical and next WC it will be someone else? 



It seems to me that when the World Cup is in Europe, a European team wins it (every time except once). When the WC is on another continent the South Americans win it (Every time so far). I think the Europeans are not quite as good as they think they are - the 'aura' of having wealthy and successful professional clubs clouds their perspective... (no offense - I'm guessing form your name you're originally from the BENELUX area - go Dutch go!)


Year  Host Country  Host LocationWinner  Winner Location
1930Uruguay SAUruguay SA
1934Italy EUItaly EU
1938France EUItaly EU
1950Brazil SAUruguay SA
1954Switzerland EUGermany EU
1958Sweden EUBrazil SA
1962Chile SABrazil SA
1966England EUEngland EU
1970Mexico NABrazil SA
1974Germany EUGermany EU
1978Argentina SAArgentina SA
1982Spain EUItaly EU
1986Mexico NAArgentina SA
1990Italy EUGermany EU
1994US NABrazil SA
1998France EUFrance EU
2002Japan / S. Korea ASBrazil SA
2006Germany EUItaly EU
2010South Africa AF?????????


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mrbbrad - 2010-06-25 1:03 PM
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LowcountryTRI - 2010-06-25 12:43 PM

Note to everyone:

I didn't start this thread to get into a debate over which sport is better or why someone may not like soccer.  If that's what you want to discuss today then go start your own thread.

 

Thank you.

Yes, thank you. This thread exists to discuss the WC. I don't care to engage in this debate. I like to watch futbol, and don't care to try to convert those who don't want to give it a chance.

 



World Cup - Spoilers.... I thought I was supposed to try to spoil it for you. My bad.

The flopping spoils it for me. That and those damn plastic horns. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

That was funny. I knew you just jumped in for some good-natured ribbing. I'm familiar with your work

And I can understand the vuvuzela thing--they drive my wife crazy when I'm watching.

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mgalanter - 2010-06-25 2:09 PM

It seems to me that when the World Cup is in Europe, a European team wins it (every time except once). When the WC is on another continent the South Americans win it (Every time so far).

Interesting statistic.  I never realized that.

And I am actually Colombian but lived in Brasil for many years.  So my loyalty in WC is to Brasil.

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mgalanter - 2010-06-25 2:09 PM

It seems to me that when the World Cup is in Europe, a European team wins it (every time except once). When the WC is on another continent the South Americans win it (Every time so far).

Interesting statistic.  I never realized that.

And I am actually Colombian but lived in Brasil for many years.  So my loyalty in WC is to Brasil.


That reminds me of the Colombian football player Valderrama and his "lion head". 
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mgalanter - 2010-06-25 2:09 PM

It seems to me that when the World Cup is in Europe, a European team wins it (every time except once). When the WC is on another continent the South Americans win it (Every time so far).

Interesting statistic.  I never realized that.

And I am actually Colombian but lived in Brasil for many years.  So my loyalty in WC is to Brasil.


That reminds me of the Colombian football player Valderrama and his "lion head". 

I saw him play for his club team many years ago while on vacation in Colombia.  You want to talk about an actor.  He could take a dive.

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