Giuliani's foot enters mouth once again (Page 2)

Dude, talking like that around here will get you labeled as a club toting Cro-Magnon...... 

BTW, I hate the Yankees and the Jets, so we could probably go round and round debating that one too sometime, but one thing I think we can both agree on is that NYC is a great american city and you are lucky to live there.

And Giuliani is a scumbag why? Because of the work he did as DA or as Mayor? From what I understand, he made NYC a much better place to live, work, and visit, so as a NewYorker, what exactly do you have against that?  And the fact that he was pretty much "Johnny on the spot" on 9/11 pretty much gives him a lifetime pass to bring that up. You probably hate it when WWII vets talk about stopping the Nazis too, huh?

Yeah, ok Giuliani isn't an angel. Im sure that the NewYorkers here that are knocking him are saints themselves. But let's talk about some facts ok? They aren't too hard to find, but as someone who does not live in NYC and didn't experience the Pre to Post Giuliani years first-hand, I wanted to make sure the positive press that he had received throughout the country wasnt a figment of the press, which we all know likes to slant things in favor of Republicans in office. <---(sarcasm)

1. you think he hates homeless and welfare?  He does! but not the individuals, the state of those conditions.  When he took office in 1994 over a million NYC residents were on welfare.(one in seven) He initiated the country's largest "workfare" program and during eight years in office---> 691,000 people came off welfare. Hmmmm

2. True,  that most of the credit for the drop in crime rates goes primarily to the men and women wearing the NYPD uniforms and walking the streets , but without the support and direction at the top the best cops in the world wouldnt have taken NYC from "a case study in urban decay" who many had thought was beyond repair to "America's safest large city"  HHe adopted the broken windows program which targeted resources to the highest need areas.  He aggressively moved to eradicate organized crime resulting in hundreds of millions of dollars moving from racketeers back to the legitimate sector.  He led the move to reduce police violence.

3. He CUT TAXES and still turned a $2.3 BILLION deficit into a multi-BILLION dollar surplus.  Property values rose and entire neighboorhoods were redeveloped. 

as a NewYorker, how can you not respect this guy unless you are allowing you political bias, or worse, blatant hatred of the Republican party to totally screw with your perspective.  C'mon! I'll give you that he wasnt a total boyscout here, but deep down, I dont think you even want to imagine what NYC would be like in 2008 without the eight years you guys had Guiliani in the Mayor's chair.

And really, dont even try to criticize his actions on 9/11.  America knows the truth about what he did that day and days following, so you just sound petty trying to knock him for something as innocent as trying to offer reassurance to a city that desperately needed just that.