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 2013-08-05 3:07 PM in reply to: Left Brain |
Champion  34263     Chicago |  Subject: RE: 90 day sentence????Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by jford2309 I get what you're saying and I agree with you. It was an incredibly light sentence. I don't know if there's any recourse for the family of the deceased. I guess the only thing they can do is promote the proposed law. Originally posted by Kido Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Left Brain That's me and gummy bears. Ate about $10 worth once and can't touch them anymore. And Kido, you make a valid point. I guess he should get zero days in jail. Oh, wait ... that's what he has now. Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Left Brain OK now that's just crazy talk! Originally posted by jford2309 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by jford2309 Originally posted by Left Brain It's a pretty normal sentence for a DWI related manslaughter charge. I'm NOT saying I agree....just giving my experience with seeing these sentences.
"Schneider, now 24, was charged with drunken driving homicide. Family connections and politics bounced the case among judges in three counties and to a special prosecutor before he pleaded no contest last month to second-degree reckless homicide."
That is normal? Did you read all the article????? Nah, I didn't read the article at all....and I'm not going to. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of cases where someone kills another person while they are DWI....the sentences are ridiculously light in many/most cases of the cases I've been involved in....and if yu are so inclined, go ahead and google light sentences as well.....you'll get a number of hits in the same 5 minutes you already spent.
That's the beauty of America, everyone is allowed to have an article that they don't bother read! Honestly.....I don't need to read an article about a light sentence for killing someone DWI....that'd just make me mad. I already know it happens so why look more? I don't like cherries.....so when I see some I don't eat them. I got sick eating them by the sackful as a kid.....you know the drill. Zero is good. And for the record? I ate an entire pecan pie when I was a kid and got sick as a dog. Can't touch it now. I MAY have come around and can eat it now, but but don't care to even try to test that out.
"Nah, I didn't eat gummi bears, cherries or pecan pie and get sick the article at all....and I'm not going to. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of treats cases where someone can eat kills another person while they are DWI..." There are quite a few cases where only probation is handed out. It's ridiculous. Our court system seems to like deep remorse. If you ever want to see someone completely broken.....go watch court proceedings where an alcoholic, who really feels powerless over their addiction, is the defendent. Next to the sadness that comes with the sudden loss of a loved one to a drunk driver I know of nothing worse to weigh on a person's mind. I am in no way making an excuse for it or advocating for light sentences.......just an observation I've had a time or two. I'm of the opinion that the friends and family of the addicted, or those they end up hurting, are the victims of an addiction, not the actual user. |
| 2013-08-05 3:10 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Left Brain I'm of the opinion that the friends and family of the addicted, or those they end up hurting, are the victims of an addiction, not the actual user. Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by jford2309 I get what you're saying and I agree with you. It was an incredibly light sentence. I don't know if there's any recourse for the family of the deceased. I guess the only thing they can do is promote the proposed law. Originally posted by Kido Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Left Brain That's me and gummy bears. Ate about $10 worth once and can't touch them anymore. And Kido, you make a valid point. I guess he should get zero days in jail. Oh, wait ... that's what he has now. Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Left Brain OK now that's just crazy talk! Originally posted by jford2309 Originally posted by Left Brain Originally posted by jford2309 Originally posted by Left Brain It's a pretty normal sentence for a DWI related manslaughter charge. I'm NOT saying I agree....just giving my experience with seeing these sentences.
"Schneider, now 24, was charged with drunken driving homicide. Family connections and politics bounced the case among judges in three counties and to a special prosecutor before he pleaded no contest last month to second-degree reckless homicide."
That is normal? Did you read all the article????? Nah, I didn't read the article at all....and I'm not going to. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of cases where someone kills another person while they are DWI....the sentences are ridiculously light in many/most cases of the cases I've been involved in....and if yu are so inclined, go ahead and google light sentences as well.....you'll get a number of hits in the same 5 minutes you already spent.
That's the beauty of America, everyone is allowed to have an article that they don't bother read! Honestly.....I don't need to read an article about a light sentence for killing someone DWI....that'd just make me mad. I already know it happens so why look more? I don't like cherries.....so when I see some I don't eat them. I got sick eating them by the sackful as a kid.....you know the drill. Zero is good. And for the record? I ate an entire pecan pie when I was a kid and got sick as a dog. Can't touch it now. I MAY have come around and can eat it now, but but don't care to even try to test that out.
"Nah, I didn't eat gummi bears, cherries or pecan pie and get sick the article at all....and I'm not going to. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of treats cases where someone can eat kills another person while they are DWI..." There are quite a few cases where only probation is handed out. It's ridiculous. Our court system seems to like deep remorse. If you ever want to see someone completely broken.....go watch court proceedings where an alcoholic, who really feels powerless over their addiction, is the defendent. Next to the sadness that comes with the sudden loss of a loved one to a drunk driver I know of nothing worse to weigh on a person's mind. I am in no way making an excuse for it or advocating for light sentences.......just an observation I've had a time or two. There is plenty of "victim" to go around in those deals. |
| 2013-08-05 4:28 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. |
| 2013-08-05 4:34 PM in reply to: Aarondb4 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by Aarondb4 Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. |
| 2013-08-05 4:36 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Pro 5761 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Aarondb4 It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little.
I agree, there was a pretty ho-hum attitude about it IMO |
| 2013-08-05 5:25 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Expert 1951 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Aarondb4 It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. Which guys? |
| 2013-08-05 5:27 PM in reply to: KateTri1 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by KateTri1 Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Aarondb4 It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. Which guys? Guys? How do you know it's not gals? |
| 2013-08-05 5:46 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Elite 6387 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Maybe we are just out of outrage on a Monday... try back Wednesday and see if we can drum some up. |
| 2013-08-05 5:51 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Expert 1951 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by KateTri1 Guys? How do you know it's not gals? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Aarondb4 It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. Which guys? Wait.. you are trying to infer LB might be a chick in disguise? Or are you referring to the responders from the news site..? |
| 2013-08-05 6:00 PM in reply to: KateTri1 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by KateTri1 Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by KateTri1 Guys? How do you know it's not gals? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Aarondb4 It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. Which guys? Wait.. you are trying to infer LB might be a chick in disguise? Or are you referring to the responders from the news site..? I was referring to BTers in general. BTers always overreact to everything. LB is a chick in disguise? Her disguise isn't a very good one. |
| 2013-08-05 7:25 PM in reply to: mr2tony |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by KateTri1 I was referring to BTers in general. BTers always overreact to everything. LB is a chick in disguise? Her disguise isn't a very good one. Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by KateTri1 Guys? How do you know it's not gals? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by Aarondb4 It's more the lack of outrage and the `Other people got less than this guy.' that surprised me. You could say that about anything (unless, in fact, nobody ever got less than this guy). I figured there'd be more `What a crock.' and others saying `Wow. Just wow.' and someone uttering `He should be summarily shot.' Instead, we get `Well that's a pretty typical sentence.' Coming from some people who tend to overreact about everything else, this was pretty darned muted. Originally posted by mr2tony I'm a little shocked that most of you are defending such a light sentence. Does it matter whether that's `just how it is?' I mean, shouldn't we, as cyclists, be demanding stronger sentences for people who kill our fellow bike riders while driving drunk? Or is this a special case? I find this post funny. No one above you defended a light sentence. One said it was typical (not a defense more of a gripe), my post didn't address the sentence at all just the court procedure and Brian said the law was insane. I fail to see anyone defending it. For the record I think he deserved a lot more than he got. I know of a guy here who had never had a drink in his life, went to college and went to a party, got drunk, thought he had sobered up and drove home. He caused an accident that killed someone's kid. I don't remember the exact sentence but he got between 5-10 years. He had never been charged with a crime before this, was a 4.0 in high school and doing well in college. Clearly an otherwise upstanding individual that made a dumb decision and someone paid dearly for it. Surprised this guy got away with so little. Which guys? Wait.. you are trying to infer LB might be a chick in disguise? Or are you referring to the responders from the news site..? I can't do anything with my hair. |
| 2013-08-06 8:56 AM in reply to: 0 |
Expert 1951 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by mr2tony Originally posted by KateTri1 Originally posted by mr2tony Guys? How do you know it's not gals? Wait.. you are trying to infer LB might be a chick in disguise? Or are you referring to the responders from the news site..? I was referring to BTers in general. BTers always overreact to everything. Not to hijack the thread but, I think on BT as on most forums, people tend to overreact when it comes to being critical of a poster's opinions or statements. In regards to links to articles posted on COJ, people have a tendency to be luke warm in response at times.. depending their moods and article content.... I could make specific comments about certain members.. but meh.. not in the mood... Edited by KateTri1 2013-08-06 8:58 AM |
| 2013-08-06 9:16 AM in reply to: Left Brain |
Pro 5755 | Subject: RE: 90 day sentence???? Originally posted by Left Brain I can't do anything with my hair. Try cutting it, you d*mn hippy. |
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