zipp wheels (Page 2)

I'm holding out to stumble across a pair of 404 Clydesdales for about $1700 ... If I could get that deal on a pair of '09s I would jump. Anybody on the Clydesdales? Even though I only go about 185 I'd give up the ounce-and-a-half for extra four spokes per wheel and a little more durability.
I think the all-carbon Reynolds Strike (60mm) or Assaults (40mm) look pretty good value. And Sram bought Zipp, so there is a lot of value in a $1300 pair of new Sram S60s.... I missed a pair of closeout $1100 Flashpoint FP60s last month on ProBikeKit ... I snoozed and I loozed. Also, I ride Neuvation aluminum trainers and they have a 50mm carbon wheel set for about $1000, but I don't know anything about their carbon wheels other than what is on their website.

.... but end of the day, we ALL want the Zipps, right?

I raced 404 Clydes as a roadie and they were absolutely bombproof. Great wheels.

reason being some people go overboard and some people can afford more then others.  that is how all things in life work.

zipp i almost find is the standard, anything below that is just that below zipp.

personally this is kind of how i think and operate:  i bought '09 80 mm flashpoints for 1350.  they are awsome.   make my bike look awsome, and i am very happy with them.  eventhough i can afford a pair of zipps i can't imagine a zipp 808 combo would give me much more benefit vs my fp80.  and 808 combo is probably another $1k so i figure for this I can buy a cheaper disc or a power tap.  considering review for FP wheels are very good...i didn't worry.

which is what i think i will be doing soon.

Edited by trix 2009-08-14 3:49 PM

Until someone wins Kona with something like Flashpoints or HED Jet wheels, Zipp are the best.

Oh, wait...

zipps are faster than most other wheels out there, but how much is the little bit worth to you is the real question?

In support of one of the earlier posters replies, the type of wheel will make a considerable difference in any 'speed' gain.  Refer to the attached link for differences between various Zipp products.

http://www.spinlitecycling.com/ZippAeroEdgeFlyer.pdf

I have a Zipp problem.  Yes, I admit to having owned several different wheels (404's, 808's, 1080 front, 900 disc).  In my experience, the time delta's posted on the flyer are accurate.  My best times have been with a disc/1080 combo.  But, the 1080 is a beast to handle if there is much wind.

If you have never, ridden a pair of high profile carbon tubulars, I would highly recommend renting a set.  As for the proper combination, that is contingent on the type of course you plan to race.  Don't be afraid of running a rear disc. For a front a 404 is a safe bet (easy to handle in the wind, a light enough for a steep rolling course).

also dont be afraid to look at other deep wheels

Hed
easton
mavic
bontrager
campy


to name a few.

I love my Zipps. I'm sponsored by Zipp. But this is not true. Zipp doesn't have the corner on design, they do have the best marketing. But they make awesome wheels.

...and a non-aero helmet! Say it ain't so!

and a P2C no less!

interesting.

who would you say is making faster wheels right now?

I'm not. When someone with access to every wheel known rides, and wins, Kona with other wheelsets it's obvious wheels are not the primary variable.

I believe I'm in the camp of 50mm or deeper wheels of just about any manufacturer and you're set. Yes, Zipps are great wheels but so are HED, Mavic, etc, etc. If you want Zipps and can afford them, get them. Just don't fool yourself into believing that no one wins with other wheelsets.

sorry that was directed at bryan.


and just because someone is winning on them does not mean they are fast;-)

Speaking of deep wheels, does anyone else besides HED make trispokes?  The trispoke front/wheel cover back is a good combination and I wanted to see what else was out there for the fronts.

Also looking for other manufacture of tri spoke wheels.  Looking for a set.

RJ

couple of different ones:

corima
3 spoke
http://www.corima.com/gb/produits/roues/default.cfm?family=roues_3batons

4 spoke
4 spokehttp://www.corima.com/gb/produits/roues/default.cfm?family=roues_4batons

aerospoke
http://www.aerospoke.com/index.php?id=401

planet x - xentis
http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Xentis_275.html

specialized 3 spoke
HED3 spoke

HED / Specialized are same wheel if i am not mistaken.  these are just a few, there is also spinergy rev-x

Most high end wheels have comparable real world performance. Same with bike frames.

got it.

i thought you meant someone else out there stood out from others, etc.

i never thought zipp had a huge lead (talking secs at most).

Trix,

Thanks for the links.   Does anyone have experiance with the aerospoke rims?

RJ

They're quite heavy--that much I remember. They seem to be kinda popular with the SS/fixie crowd these days for some reason.

some of them just do it because it looks cool, but they are actually very good wheels for that, they dont ever break/go out of true.