Custom Training Plan Creator Update: More Plans! Workout Details! (Page 2)

This should be all set.

Just a generic question, so I did another IM plan playing around with it. And for IM CDA next June in a 21 week plan it only had the longest run at 12 mi or 1:30 min. Now biking had 100+ milers starting about 5 weeks in.

So my question, does it favor bike mileage over run mileage? I had my long runs on Sundays and most were in the 9-11 mi range.

That is definitely a bug.  I am verifying some fixes on our dev site, will update you when we have a fix for half and full IM plans.

Thanks for all you guys do around here, this site gets more amazing everyday!

HI!

I'm having a problem viewing my training plan or any "planned" workouts. When I go to the calendar view and click on the planned link there is nothing there and it says that I'm viewing my actual calendar. I know that I have a plan in there somewhere but can't seem to be able to view it. Sorry, this is probably confusing, but any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Kat

Can you try to clear your temporary internet files and cookies on your browser?  Your training plan doesn't start till January, so it will be blank when initially loaded, you will have to scroll forward a few months.

Try this link too if the above doesn't work:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/index-monthly.asp?type=train&year=2011&month=1&day=1&memberid=91853&setstrength=0&setplanned=1&setnutrition=0

I recently upgraded my account to a silver membership and just wanted to confirm that as of Dec. 1st I will not have access to the custom detailed plans unless I upgrade to a newer membership level. Is this correct?

Correct.  After Dec 1st Silver will stay as it is 'officially' now - no changes.

Why is my custom training plan not listed under "my training plans?". I tried to view my whole plan through my training log, under planned training, under my training plans and there is nothing there. I am able to view each month, etc, but I figured when I gave my plan a name it would be listed somewhere I could access it?

What changes on Dec 1 other than the custom detailed plans are not longer available to all of us?  What are the new membership levels/benefits?  My membership is due for renewal in December and wondering what the options will be.

FIXED.  Half and Full IM 'maintenance' plans should behave now.  (Bad bug...bad!).  I have spent the morning verifying volume values for both 3:1 and 2:1 plans...and reverifying the 'race' plans.

You should like it much better.

Wondering this myself as I just renewed my silver.  I now wondering if a should have waited till Dec.  Do you guys know what the membership level will be and how much it will cost?  Will you offer an upgrade option if we want or will just have to pay the full price to upgrade on top of what I have just paid to renew silver?

There will always be upgrade options so you won't be losing any money if you want to go with this when it is official.

I was experimenting with a HIM plan and it gave me several long bike rides of over 100 miles in the weeks leading up to race day. Two weeks before the race, the long ride is 145 miles! This seems really excessive for a half.

Edited by tikicult 2010-11-24 10:10 PM

Really?  I tested this pretty rigorously...I must have missed something.  Can you let me know what exactly the parameters were that you entered?

Dates, pace, level (1, 2 or 3).  Race or maintenance.  2:1 or 3:1 Build/Rest

Was this the first plan that you generated at that time?  Or was this one of several that came before it?

Thanks, yep I tried it and looked much better

Here are my settings: Race, Starting 2-20-2011, Finish 08-14-2011, 3:1 Build/rest, Consistently training for two years, 2 Swims, 3 Bikes, 3 Runs.

Week 24 (Peak) totals are: 8150 yd Swim, 349.5 mi Bike, 82 mi Run. Week 25 (Taper) has totals of 5000 yd swim, 122.3 mi bike and 28.7 mi run.

Good info, one last question ( I have an idea what is causing this), do you remember if this was the FIRST plan you generated that day or did you create some others immediately before it, decided to change something and went back into the tabs, changed it and resubmitted - then you got the super long bikes?

It was the first plan I tried that day. I also remember it generating similar distances a few months ago before it officially supported HIM and IM plans.

I have tried two times on two different days and can't replicate this.  Can you try to clear your browsers temporary internet files and clear your browser cache?  Perhaps you may be working with some old code.

Try again after the above and let me know...give me peak week totals like before or just copy all of peak week so I can see.

I just tried this again, in three different browsers, Chrome, IE8 and Firefox. All three consistently produce the same results. The only difference that I did this time was that I did not modify the training paces, and i got slightly smaller values for peak week (which are still high). Swim: 9550 yd, Bike: 288.9 mi, Run: 56 mi.

I looked at our logs and this is happening because you're selecting an overall Sprint Distance but then entering S/B/R distances for a half iron.   It's important to enter the overall race type and sport distances correctly.

This doesn't seem right to me.

Here are my inputs:
Calendar Information
Start Date: 12/13/2010
Race Date: 4/17/2011
Plan length: 18 weeks
Recovery week 4 weeks

Target Distances
Swim: 765
Bike: 12
Run: 3.1
new swimmer: yes
Current Paces
Swim: 02m / 100 yards
Bike: 16 mph
Run: 07m 41s / Mile

Workouts Per Week
Swim: 3
Bike: 2
Run: 2

Week 1 totals:
S: 2400 Yd - 46m w/long swim at 1000 yd
B: 9.4 Mi - 46m
R: 6 Mi - 1h 01m

Week 17 totals (1 week prior to sprint tri):
S: 3750 Yd - 1h 13m w/ long swim at 1550 yd
B: 25.7 Mi - 2h 08m
R: 16.4 Mi - 2h 48m

Now as I am a new swimmer, why is my first long swim (week 1) 1000 yd, 235 yd more than my race day distance, which is 18 weeks away?
And does it make sense to have my week 17 swim total almost 5 times the race distance, with the race in 1 week?

It's correct.  Don't look at the total weekly distance.  We 'work back' from peak weak as one of the rules is 10% increase in volume per week for a safe, consistent build...so for an 18 week plan, 600/800/1000 is the first week of swims. If you did the full 28 week plan, it allows for more build as the first week is 450/600/750 - which is exactly in line with the first week of the beginner swim series...plus if we make the swims any shorter, you would be in the pool for 10 minutes..

We also heavily value swim overdistance training especially for sprints.  So your long swim may very well be 2x your race distance during peak week.  I feel this is very important and draws upon many 'first tri' experiences on BT...myself included.

ONE CHANGE YOU CAN DO...change your swim to 500, recalculate the plan.  You won't get as much overdistance, but the first week is then 400/550/650 and peak swim is 950...a few hundred yards over your race swim.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks! That makes sense now. I assume that since I can only select Sprint and Oly that you have to be a member to access the HIM and IM plans?