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 2005-09-20 9:56 PM in reply to: #250589 |
Elite  2733     Venture Industries, |  Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SECGatorGirl22 - 2005-09-20 7:57 PM [Afraid of what, that one of you will try to use a double negative, or take a pass at algebra? I can tell you with all certainty that I am not afraid of some sissy playing dress up and riding a horse - that he needs to have a trainer standing nearby so he doesn't get a boo boo. By the way, if you add the number of votes given to each conference (according to the AP) the SEC wins, as usual, by a margin of 5366 to 4806 - that is really like you guys needing another top 15 team to catch us...try again later. At least our Team is smart enough to be able to put the proper mascot on our football press guide. The University of Florida gators....Oh wait you put a crocodile on your 2003 press guide cover. Fact is while the Gators were whooping it up about SEC titles in the 1990's, the 'Noles were running out a string of top 5 finishes. (What was it 12 straight top 5 finishes?) Ultimately, that's the real difference between FSU and the Gators. FSU is satisfied with National championships and top 5 finishes. Anything less is a failure. The gators are happy just to win the conference. The 'Ole Ball Coach was an icon in Florida, but the 'Ole Man had his number. The numbers don't lie, the 'Noles are a more succesful program. So you all keep spewing about how great the SEC is, and I'll keep arguing about how great my TEAM is. |
| 2005-09-21 6:30 AM in reply to: #250660 |
Giver 18427  | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC ASA22 - 2005-09-20 9:56 PM Fact is while the Gators were whooping it up about SEC titles in the 1990's, the 'Noles were running out a string of top 5 finishes. (What was it 12 straight top 5 finishes?) Ultimately, that's the real difference between FSU and the Gators. FSU is satisfied with National championships and top 5 finishes. Anything less is a failure. The gators are happy just to win the conference. The 'Ole Ball Coach was an icon in Florida, but the 'Ole Man had his number. The numbers don't lie, the 'Noles are a more succesful program. So you all keep spewing about how great the SEC is, and I'll keep arguing about how great my TEAM is. The fact is that because the SEC is so strong, the conference teams beat up on each other thus precluding them from winning national championships. Yes, it must be nice to be able to cruise through your conference schedule unscathed to be able to contend for a national championship, but a real conference like the SEC makes it very difficult. Winning the SEC is as meaningful as winning a national championship is for a non-SEC team. And sure, I'll admit that the ACC is relatively strong this year. But it's a fluke. The SEC has and always will be very strong. And the fact that his thread even exists is evidence of some insecurity among our ACC brethren... |
| 2005-09-21 6:45 AM in reply to: #249489 |
Extreme Veteran 481 Coppell | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC I don't know what everyone is thinking, the University of North Texas Eagles are going to win it ALL this year! Oh yeah, go Eagles! Cawwwwwwwww!  |
| 2005-09-21 7:18 AM in reply to: #250737 |
Elite 2421 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC pds0006 - 2005-09-21 5:45 AM I don't know what everyone is thinking, the University of North Texas Eagles are going to win it ALL this year! Oh yeah, go Eagles! Cawwwwwwwww! That's such crap. Everyone knows that the best football team in the Northern Texas/Oklahoma area is TCU. And it's not even the Eagles any more, I thought it was the Mean Green or something toolish like that. Or did you switch back, again... ya flip floppers. bts P.S. Sorry, I don't really care that much about college football, but everyone else here is so violent about it that I'm afraid if I show signs of weakness I'll be eaten alive. |
| 2005-09-21 7:50 AM in reply to: #250735 |
Elite 2733 Venture Industries, | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC <. The fact is that because the SEC is so strong, the conference teams beat up on each other thus precluding them from winning national championships. Yes, it must be nice to be able to cruise through your conference schedule unscathed to be able to contend for a national championship, but a real conference like the SEC makes it very difficult. Winning the SEC is as meaningful as winning a national championship is for a non-SEC team. And sure, I'll admit that the ACC is relatively strong this year. But it's a fluke. The SEC has and always will be very strong. And the fact that his thread even exists is evidence of some insecurity among our ACC brethren... You, as a fan really believe that winning an SEC title is just as good as winning a National title?!? If that is the honest truth, then my point has been proven. I'm so tired of hearing that crap! It's the justification used by SEC teams for playing week non-coference schedules. Oh...our conference is so difficult we can't play the top teir teams out of conference. B.S.!!! The proof is in the pudding, look at the winning percentage of the SEC verse ranked non-conference opponents and compare to the ACC's winning percentage against ranked non-conference opponents. The ACC's winning percentage against RANKED non-conference opponents is higher. The actual numbers show that in any way you want to measure the strength of the conference the ACC, top-to-bottom, is a stronger conference. So little gator, you be happy with your SEC conference win. For me, I expect to win the ACC every year, even now with Miami, Va. Tech, and BC in the conference. What I also expect is to challenge for a National title. And contrary to your assertion... A conference title IS NOT as good as winning a National Championship! It's an excuse that SEC teams keep chanting to themselves...."Our conference is the toughest, so wining the conference is just as good as winning a National Title....." Keep saying it enough and you might actually believe it. Oh... and FSU isn't in the SEC so what are the Gators excuse for the 'Noles relative lopsided winning percentage against the Gators from the mid 80's through the present? Is it because the Gators are so beat up from playing that tough SEC schedule every year. Must be tough winning against the likes of Eastern Michigan, Middle Tenn State, vanderbilt, So. Carolina, Miss St., Kentucky, Arkansas, Wyoming, Lousiana Tech., FAMU, San Jose State. FACT: Since 1998 the Mighty gators are 4-11 against non-conferance ranked opponents. I guess that's why the SEC championship is so important, because your likelyhood of beating a non-conference ranked opponent is practically nil! |
| 2005-09-21 7:53 AM in reply to: #250735 |
Master 2447 Marietta, Ga | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC run4yrlif - 2005-09-21 6:30 AM The fact is that because the SEC is so strong, the conference teams beat up on each other thus precluding them from winning national championships. Yes, it must be nice to be able to cruise through your conference schedule unscathed to be able to contend for a national championship, but a real conference like the SEC makes it very difficult. Winning the SEC is as meaningful as winning a national championship is for a non-SEC team. Another worn out, predictable line out of the "We're the SEC " playbook. My lord, that one is tired and needs to be put to bed. What a crock. If that's the best you've got, then I would consider this debate over and done. That is as good as you saying, "Uncle". Especially that last line. I doubt Generals Lee, Napoleon, or Rommel would agree with your assessment that winning a battle is as good as winning the war. Boo yah! |
| 2005-09-21 8:16 AM in reply to: #250762 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Hoo...sombody's got their panties in a bunch... ASA22 - 2005-09-21 7:50 AM You, as a fan really believe that winning an SEC title is just as good as winning a National title?!? OK...maybe not as meaningful, but in many cases as difficult. If that is the honest truth, then my point has been proven. I'm so tired of hearing that crap! It's the justification used by SEC teams for playing week non-coference schedules. C'mon...you're going to say that two weeks after FSU looked like a mediocre I-AA team for three quarters against the Citadel? Oh...our conference is so difficult we can't play the top teir teams out of conference. B.S.!!! The Citadel. The proof is in the pudding, look at the winning percentage of the SEC verse ranked non-conference opponents and compare to the ACC's winning percentage against ranked non-conference opponents. The ACC's winning percentage against RANKED non-conference opponents is higher. The actual numbers show that in any way you want to measure the strength of the conference the ACC, top-to-bottom, is a stronger conference. Blah, blah, blah. The fact is, it's a fluke that you can even make that argument for one year. So this ACC is relatively strong this year. But you know that par for the ACC course is one or two good teams, plus a bunch of door mats. So little gator, you be happy with your SEC conference win. I am happy with an SEC championship. I'd love to see how FSU would do in a conference where they had to play Georgia, Auburn and FLorida back-to-back-back, year in and year out. For me, I expect to win the ACC every year, even now with Miami, Va. Tech, and BC in the conference. I would, too, in a conference filled with perrenial doormats. What happened last year? Oh yeah...no ACC championship, and a loss to Florida. No wonder all the hostility.What I also expect is to challenge for a National title. When was your last one? Oh yeah. 1999. Been a long time, huh? And contrary to your assertion... A conference title IS NOT as good as winning a National Championship! Yeah...you already said that. Running out of arguments? It's an excuse that SEC teams keep chanting to themselves...."Our conference is the toughest, so wining the conference is just as good as winning a National Title....." Keep saying it enough and you might actually believe it. Oh... and FSU isn't in the SEC so what are the Gators excuse for the 'Noles relative lopsided winning percentage against the Gators from the mid 80's through the present? Florida 20, FSU 13 (at Doak, no less). Is it because the Gators are so beat up from playing that tough SEC schedule every year. Must be tough winning against the likes of Eastern Michigan, Middle Tenn State, vanderbilt, So. Carolina, Miss St., Kentucky, Arkansas, Wyoming, Lousiana Tech., FAMU, San Jose State. The Citadel. FACT: Since 1998 the Mighty gators are 4-11 against non-conferance ranked opponents. I guess that's why the SEC championship is so important, because your likelyhood of beating a non-conference ranked opponent is practically nil! Unless it's FSU. |
| 2005-09-21 8:32 AM in reply to: #250764 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Karl, Karl, Karl...just because something gets repeated a lot, doesn't make it not true. "Why did that apple fall on my head?" "Gravity" "Gravity? That's all you gravity-lovers ever say! Gravity gravity gravity! Everyone knows it's not gravity! It's because Florida sucks." <shakes head and stops arguing with dunder-headed 'Noles> Edited by run4yrlif 2005-09-21 8:33 AM |
| 2005-09-21 8:33 AM in reply to: #249489 |
| Master 1741 Boston | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Um, FYI, Barry (El Oso) wrote that post earlier- he was logged in under my name. I am not getting in the middle of this- honestly I could care less about football. I just go to people -watch and have a hot dog. |
| 2005-09-21 8:46 AM in reply to: #250794 |
Master 2447 Marietta, Ga | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC run4yrlif - 2005-09-21 8:32 AM Karl, Karl, Karl...just because something gets repeated a lot, doesn't make it not true. "Why did that apple fall on my head?" "Gravity" "Gravity? That's all you gravity-lovers ever say! Gravity gravity gravity! Everyone knows it's not gravity! It's because Florida sucks." <shakes head and stops arguing with dunder-headed 'Noles> LOL, so, what law of physics keeps the SEC at a status not enjoyed by any other conference? You guys take fan loyalty to an unmatched extreme. Nov 26th will be a great day. |
| 2005-09-21 8:47 AM in reply to: #250797 |
Master 2447 Marietta, Ga | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC GatorGirl22 - 2005-09-21 8:33 AM Um, FYI, Barry (El Oso) wrote that post earlier- he was logged in under my name. I am not getting in the middle of this- honestly I could care less about football. I just go to people -watch and have a hot dog. Aha, just like a gator, hiding behind a skirt. |
| 2005-09-21 8:47 AM in reply to: #250816 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Motivated - 2005-09-21 8:46 AM LOL, so, what law of physics keeps the SEC at a status not enjoyed by any other conference? You guys take fan loyalty to an unmatched extreme. Nov 26th will be a great day. Amen...and amen, |
| 2005-09-21 8:50 AM in reply to: #250819 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Dude...leave Lisa alone. She's just being honest. Oh wait...I forgot. Criminoles have no concept of honesty. My bad... Motivated - 2005-09-21 8:47 AM GatorGirl22 - 2005-09-21 8:33 AM Um, FYI, Barry (El Oso) wrote that post earlier- he was logged in under my name. I am not getting in the middle of this- honestly I could care less about football. I just go to people -watch and have a hot dog. Aha, just like a gator, hiding behind a skirt. |
| 2005-09-21 8:55 AM in reply to: #249489 |
Pro 3883 Woodstock,GA | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Ok lets talk about "weak non-conference" schedules or how about bowl wins?? 1997-Dawgs 33 -Wisconsin 6 1998-Dawgs 35-Virginia 33 1999-Dawgs 28-Purdue 25 2000-Dawgs 37-Virginia 14 2001-Dawgs 16-B.C. 20 (coaching error/clock management) 2002-Dawgs 26-Criminoles 13 2003-Dawgs 34-Purdue 27 2004-Dawgs 24-Wisconsin 21 For those of you who are FSU graduates and can't count that is a 7-1 bowl record, in addition Georgia is 17-1 under Mark Richt against non-conference opponents. You ACC fans should just wait for basketball season........................... |
| 2005-09-21 8:58 AM in reply to: #250831 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Wow...I never thought I'd be agreeing with a Georgia fan... Rocket Man - 2005-09-21 8:55 AM Ok lets talk about "weak non-conference" schedules or how about bowl wins?? 1997-Dawgs 33 -Wisconsin 6 1998-Dawgs 35-Virginia 33 1999-Dawgs 28-Purdue 25 2000-Dawgs 37-Virginia 14 2001-Dawgs 16-B.C. 20 (coaching error/clock management) 2002-Dawgs 26-Criminoles 13 2003-Dawgs 34-Purdue 27 2004-Dawgs 24-Wisconsin 21 For those of you who are FSU graduates and can't count that is a 7-1 bowl record, in addition Georgia is 17-1 under Mark Richt against non-conference opponents. You ACC fans should just wait for basketball season........................... |
| 2005-09-21 9:02 AM in reply to: #250822 |
Master 2447 Marietta, Ga | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC run4yrlif - 2005-09-21 8:50 AM Dude...leave Lisa alone. She's just being honest. Oh wait...I forgot. Criminoles have no concept of honesty. My bad... Motivated - 2005-09-21 8:47 AM GatorGirl22 - 2005-09-21 8:33 AM Um, FYI, Barry (El Oso) wrote that post earlier- he was logged in under my name. I am not getting in the middle of this- honestly I could care less about football. I just go to people -watch and have a hot dog. Aha, just like a gator, hiding behind a skirt. Okay, I forgot, reading comprehension at UofF was an elective. I'll go slowly for you. That post was directed at El Oso, or otherwise known as Barry, Lisa's boyfriend who logged on using her name instead of his own to disparage the ACC (hence the reference to "hiding behind a skirt" Edited by Motivated 2005-09-21 9:04 AM |
| 2005-09-21 9:15 AM in reply to: #250831 |
Elite 2733 Venture Industries, | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Rocket Man - 2005-09-21 8:55 AM Ok lets talk about "weak non-conference" schedules or how about bowl wins?? 1997-Dawgs 33 -Wisconsin 6 1998-Dawgs 35-Virginia 33 1999-Dawgs 28-Purdue 25 2000-Dawgs 37-Virginia 14 2001-Dawgs 16-B.C. 20 (coaching error/clock management) 2002-Dawgs 26-Criminoles 13 2003-Dawgs 34-Purdue 27 2004-Dawgs 24-Wisconsin 21 For those of you who are FSU graduates and can't count that is a 7-1 bowl record, in addition Georgia is 17-1 under Mark Richt against non-conference opponents. You ACC fans should just wait for basketball season........................... Really, you want to compare bowl victories between FSU and Georgia.. really, OK I'm game: 1982 FSU 31 W. Va. 12 1983 FSU 28 NC 3 1984 FSU 17 GA 17 1985 FSU 34 Ok St. 23 1986 FSU 27 Indiana 13 1988 FSU 31 Nebraska 28 1989 FSU 13 Auburn 7 1990 FSU 41 Nebraska 17 1991 FSU 24 Penn State 17 1992 FSU 10 Texas A&M 2 1993 FSU 27 Nebraska 13 1994 FSU 18 Nebraska 16 1995 FSU 23 Florida 17 1996 FSU 31 Notre Dame 26 1997 FSU 20 Florida 52 (Yikes, a butt kickin' by the Gators!!!) 1998 FSU 31 Ohio State 14 1999 FSU 46 Va. Tech 29 2000 FSU 2 Okl. 13 2001 FSU 30 Va. Tech 17 2002 FSU 13 Ga. 26 2003 FSU 14 Miami 16 2004 FSU 30 w. Va 18 16-4-1: 2 National Championships (Most wins of ANY program since 1990) |
| 2005-09-21 9:24 AM in reply to: #250851 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC OK...I know the FSU guy needs help with math, so I'll help. Georgia: 7-1 record = 0.875 winning percentage FSU: 16-4-1 record = 0.800 winning percentage (tie not included) 0.875 > 0.800 What was your point again? ASA22 - 2005-09-21 9:15 AM Really, you want to compare bowl victories between FSU and Georgia.. really, OK I'm game: 1982 FSU 31 W. Va. 12 1983 FSU 28 NC 3 1984 FSU 17 GA 17 1985 FSU 34 Ok St. 23 1986 FSU 27 Indiana 13 1988 FSU 31 Nebraska 28 1989 FSU 13 Auburn 7 1990 FSU 41 Nebraska 17 1991 FSU 24 Penn State 17 1992 FSU 10 Texas A&M 2 1993 FSU 27 Nebraska 13 1994 FSU 18 Nebraska 16 1995 FSU 23 Florida 17 1996 FSU 31 Notre Dame 26 1997 FSU 20 Florida 52 (Yikes, a butt kickin' by the Gators!!!) 1998 FSU 31 Ohio State 14 1999 FSU 46 Va. Tech 29 2000 FSU 2 Okl. 13 2001 FSU 30 Va. Tech 17 2002 FSU 13 Ga. 26 2003 FSU 14 Miami 16 2004 FSU 30 w. Va 18 16-4-1: 2 National Championships (Most wins of ANY program since 1990) |
| 2005-09-21 9:44 AM in reply to: #250797 |
Elite 2421 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC GatorGirl22 - 2005-09-21 7:33 AM Um, FYI, Barry (El Oso) wrote that post earlier- he was logged in under my name. I am not getting in the middle of this- honestly I could care less about football. I just go to people -watch and have a hot dog. I thought that sounded a little hostile for you... bts |
| 2005-09-21 9:52 AM in reply to: #250864 |
Elite 2421 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC run4yrlif - 2005-09-21 8:24 AM OK...I know the FSU guy needs help with math, so I'll help. Georgia: 7-1 record = 0.875 winning percentage FSU: 16-4-1 record = 0.800 winning percentage (tie not included) 0.875 > 0.800 What was your point again? ASA22 - 2005-09-21 9:15 AM Really, you want to compare bowl victories between FSU and Georgia.. really, OK I'm game: 1982 FSU 31 W. Va. 12 1983 FSU 28 NC 3 1984 FSU 17 GA 17 1985 FSU 34 Ok St. 23 1986 FSU 27 Indiana 13 1988 FSU 31 Nebraska 28 1989 FSU 13 Auburn 7 1990 FSU 41 Nebraska 17 1991 FSU 24 Penn State 17 1992 FSU 10 Texas A&M 2 1993 FSU 27 Nebraska 13 1994 FSU 18 Nebraska 16 1995 FSU 23 Florida 17 1996 FSU 31 Notre Dame 26 1997 FSU 20 Florida 52 (Yikes, a butt kickin' by the Gators!!!) 1998 FSU 31 Ohio State 14 1999 FSU 46 Va. Tech 29 2000 FSU 2 Okl. 13 2001 FSU 30 Va. Tech 17 2002 FSU 13 Ga. 26 2003 FSU 14 Miami 16 2004 FSU 30 w. Va 18 16-4-1: 2 National Championships (Most wins of ANY program since 1990) I can't believe I'm coming the defense of the Seminoles, BUUUUT you are comparing FSUs record for the last 15 years to Georgia's for the last 8. If seems only fair to compare them over the same amount of time, and Georgia's record since 1990 is 9-3, a .750 win percentage. Not to mention a few years in there that they didn't even make a bowl. bts |
| 2005-09-21 10:05 AM in reply to: #250864 |
Elite 2733 Venture Industries, | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Georgia Bowl hostory over same period 1982 Ga. 20 Pitt 24 1983 Ga. 23 penn St. 27 1984 Ga 10 Texas 9 1984 Ga 17 FSU 17 1985 GA 13 Az 13 1986 GA 24 BC 27 1987 GA 20 Ark 17 1988 no bowl appearance 1989 Ga 34 Mich St. 27 1990 GA 18 Syracuse 19 1991 GA 24 Ark 15 1992 no bowl appearance 1993 GA 21 Ohio St. 14 1994 no bowl appearance 1995 Ga 27 Va 34 1996 no bowl appearance 1997 no bowl appearance 1998 Ga 35 Va 33 1999 GA 28 Purdue 25 2000 Ga 37 VA 14 2001 Ga 16 BC 20 2002 Ga 26 FSU 13 2004 Ga 34 Purdue 27 2005 Ga 24 Wisc. 21 So over the same time period Georgia is 11-6-2, wanna re-do your math. |
| 2005-09-21 10:19 AM in reply to: #249489 |
Pro 3883 Woodstock,GA | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC You fail to mention also that before last year FSU was the ONLY DECENT TEAM in the ACC, so yes you would expect them to win the conference every year and be in the Top 5 by virtue of the fact that it is a WEAK CONFERENCE......I am not saying that FSU doesn't have a great program, obviously they do (our coach came from FSU) HOWEVER the ACC as a whole until last year was as weak a conference as the Big East. |
| 2005-09-21 10:43 AM in reply to: #250925 |
Elite 2733 Venture Industries, | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Rocket Man - 2005-09-21 10:19 AM You fail to mention also that before last year FSU was the ONLY DECENT TEAM in the ACC, so yes you would expect them to win the conference every year and be in the Top 5 by virtue of the fact that it is a WEAK CONFERENCE......I am not saying that FSU doesn't have a great program, obviously they do (our coach came from FSU) HOWEVER the ACC as a whole until last year was as weak a conference as the Big East. 1. We've only been in the ACC for 12 years, prior to that we were an independant in football, just like Notre Dame. 2. In those bowl victories and in the National Championship years we beat in the Bowl games nebraska, Florida, Auburn, ohio State, Penn State, Notre dame, Texas A&M: 3.During the regular season our non-coference wins over the same time period included wins over Florida, Miami, Syracuse, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Michigan,Pittsburg, Va. Tech., BC, Ohio State, West Virginia, LSU, Arizona State, kansas, So. Miss., So. Carolina and Mich. State. 4. Auburn actually refused to honor a home-and-home contract, and rather than play FSU paid out a 1million dollar penalty to cancell the two games. 5. Two teams dominated the 1990's in football, and they were FSU and Miami. The numbers speak for themselves. Whether you want to break it down by most wins, most wins against ranked opponents, most wins against non-conference ranked opponents, most bowl victories, most bowl appearances, pick a statistic that measures a teams success and there isn't a team in the nation that can compete with FSU, from the mid 80's to the present. Certainly no SEC team. The strength of the SEC conferance has nothing to do with success/failure in bowl games. 6. Like it or not, FSU's program is an elite program. It goes down with the michigans of the 70's, the Notre Dame's of the 50's and 60's, The nebraska and the Oklahomas of the 70's. 7. I fear the decline of our program as long as Jeff Bowden is the offensive co. 8. I'm a realist, all things come to and end, eventually. |
| 2005-09-21 10:53 AM in reply to: #250957 |
Giver 18427 | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC No one's arguing that FSU isn't a strong team. This thread is (was) about the relative strengths of two conferences.... ASA22 - 2005-09-21 10:43 AM Rocket Man - 2005-09-21 10:19 AM You fail to mention also that before last year FSU was the ONLY DECENT TEAM in the ACC, so yes you would expect them to win the conference every year and be in the Top 5 by virtue of the fact that it is a WEAK CONFERENCE......I am not saying that FSU doesn't have a great program, obviously they do (our coach came from FSU) HOWEVER the ACC as a whole until last year was as weak a conference as the Big East. 1. We've only been in the ACC for 12 years, prior to that we were an independant in football, just like Notre Dame. 2. In those bowl victories and in the National Championship years we beat in the Bowl games nebraska, Florida, Auburn, ohio State, Penn State, Notre dame, Texas A&M: 3.During the regular season our non-coference wins over the same time period included wins over Florida, Miami, Syracuse, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Michigan,Pittsburg, Va. Tech., BC, Ohio State, West Virginia, LSU, Arizona State, kansas, So. Miss., So. Carolina and Mich. State. 4. Auburn actually refused to honor a home-and-home contract, and rather than play FSU paid out a 1million dollar penalty to cancell the two games. 5. Two teams dominated the 1990's in football, and they were FSU and Miami. The numbers speak for themselves. Whether you want to break it down by most wins, most wins against ranked opponents, most wins against non-conference ranked opponents, most bowl victories, most bowl appearances, pick a statistic that measures a teams success and there isn't a team in the nation that can compete with FSU, from the mid 80's to the present. Certainly no SEC team. The strength of the SEC conferance has nothing to do with success/failure in bowl games. 6. Like it or not, FSU's program is an elite program. It goes down with the michigans of the 70's, the Notre Dame's of the 50's and 60's, The nebraska and the Oklahomas of the 70's. 7. I fear the decline of our program as long as Jeff Bowden is the offensive co. 8. I'm a realist, all things come to and end, eventually. |
| 2005-09-21 11:01 AM in reply to: #249489 |
Pro 3883 Woodstock,GA | Subject: RE: Intervention: Members of the SEC Thanks Jim.....the argument is about which is the better conference.....not who is the better team. Before this year there is no way anyone could argue ACC vs SEC....there is just no comparing the two. This year with VaTech playing well, the ACC has 3 good teams (FSU, Miami), the SEC however has 6 (GA, FLA, TENN, ALA, LSU, AUB)...and don't give me the "GA Tech beat Auburn" argument. The North Ave Trade School are inconsistant at best...... |
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