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 2013-02-12 11:42 AM in reply to: #4619081 |
Champion  6056    Menomonee Falls, WI |  Subject: RE: State of the Unioncrowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? |
| 2013-02-12 11:50 AM in reply to: #4619103 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:36 AM GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 11:34 AM Maybe you should pay attention to the last two sentences and not the first. There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it.crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM crusevegas - 2013-02-12 11:10 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 8:56 AM scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 10:55 AM tuwood - 2013-02-12 10:27 AM I hope the President shares that sentiment. I seem to remember him using a SOTU Address to publicly mock the Supreme Court about their Campaign Finance decision. crowny2 - 2013-02-12 10:19 AM Rumor has it that a TX Senator invited Ted Nugent to the State of the Union address tonight. THAT should be interesting if he actually goes. Wonder if he can keep quiet or if we would have another "He lies" episode? As much as I dislike the Presidents policies it's not the time or place for anyone to be disrespectful. Because that clearly is the same as an outburst from the peanut gallery.
I think the President should get the respect he's earned and deserves. Many would argue that Bush didn't deserve any respect durning his later SotU addresses and you didn't see anyone disrespecting him during the delivery. There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Why not? It seems Obama has continued much of what Bush started. Are you saying that Obama doesn't deserve respect?
I agree with the last two sentences. The SOTU is not the place to chastise citizens of this country. Which should also go for the President (a citizen) who is invited into the house to speak to the congress (citizens) about the state of the country. In the case of Obama calling out the Supreme Court (citizens) for a legal decision they made as a group, that was just as wrong as Joe Wilson (a citizen) yelling "You Lie!" to the President (a citizen). My question to you is to defend your comment that "Many" argue President Bush didn't deserve respect. I assume you're part of the "Many" and/or you have some theories as to why President Bush didn't deserve respect. Really? You actually think those are the same? Then he shouldn't say anything during the SotU. Heaven forbit it might offend someone's sensitive feelings. And of course no other President, in the HISTORY of SotU's have EVER said anything even REMOTELY as "controversial". Give me a break. CLEARLY MANY thought that Bush didn't deserve respect at the end of his term. Look at all of the ridiculous vitriol that was all over the internet. And that is also OBVIOUSLY not my point. My point was that there were those that were in attendance at Bush's SotU addressess that didn't respect him or his stances. But you don't see any of them bursting out.
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| 2013-02-12 11:52 AM in reply to: #4619104 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
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| 2013-02-12 11:59 AM in reply to: #4619077 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: State of the Union uclamatt2007 - 2013-02-12 11:23 AM Jackemy1 - 2013-02-12 9:17 AM ScudRunner - 2013-02-12 8:23 AM Second, humor: Tea Party Issues Scathing Rebuttal to State of Union Twelve Hours Before Speech
Don't know the sources but the transcripts of the speech come out before the speech so I can see how a rebuttal is written before the speech is delivered. Based on the fact that it is Borowitz, I would assume it is satire.
One the other hand, the Democrats have already released a rebuttal to the Republican rebuttal to the SOTU. Seriously.... Ah...ok there are so many political blogs/news feeds I can't keep take of which ones are legit. Edited by Jackemy1 2013-02-12 12:05 PM |
| 2013-02-12 12:00 PM in reply to: #4618706 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union After some research, I have proven myself wrong. The Democrats started it in 2005 by booing Bush. I think it was reprehensible then, and I think so now. Not the time, nor the place. |
| 2013-02-12 12:09 PM in reply to: #4619116 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:50 AM Really? You actually think those are the same? Then he shouldn't say anything during the SotU. Heaven forbit it might offend someone's sensitive feelings. And of course no other President, in the HISTORY of SotU's have EVER said anything even REMOTELY as "controversial". Give me a break. CLEARLY MANY thought that Bush didn't deserve respect at the end of his term. Look at all of the ridiculous vitriol that was all over the internet. And that is also OBVIOUSLY not my point. My point was that there were those that were in attendance at Bush's SotU addressess that didn't respect him or his stances. But you don't see any of them bursting out.
It's worse actually. Joe Wilson's outburst was not during a State of the Union speech. It was during time the President asked to speak to the joint session of congress about health care. The SOTU is supposed to be a commentary on the State of the Union. Not a chance to have a one-sided attack on the other branches of the government. That's why it made news. I think Obama's calling out the SC during the SOTU was worse than Joe Wilson yelling back because the implication is that while he's speaking, you can't question him. Where is that in the constitution? It has never happened before that a President has called-out the Supreme Court during a State of the Union. Show me where it has happened?
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| 2013-02-12 12:12 PM in reply to: #4619146 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:00 PM After some research, I have proven myself wrong. The Democrats started it in 2005 by booing Bush. I think it was reprehensible then, and I think so now. Not the time, nor the place. I think a measure of decorum is fine so it doesn't break-down to a melee, but I think the premise that a President should be allowed to speak without anyone making a negative reaction is too close to treating him like he's above the citizens. That's why it's interesting to me how few press conferences Obama has had where he's answered actual questions from actual reporters. |
| 2013-02-12 12:13 PM in reply to: #4619158 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 12:12 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:00 PM After some research, I have proven myself wrong. The Democrats started it in 2005 by booing Bush. I think it was reprehensible then, and I think so now. Not the time, nor the place. I think a measure of decorum is fine so it doesn't break-down to a melee, but I think the premise that a President should be allowed to speak without anyone making a negative reaction is too close to treating him like he's above the citizens. That's why it's interesting to me how few press conferences Obama has had where he's answered actual questions from actual reporters. Which is why the other side has a rebuttal after the SotU. |
| 2013-02-12 12:15 PM in reply to: #4619155 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 12:09 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:50 AM Really? You actually think those are the same? Then he shouldn't say anything during the SotU. Heaven forbit it might offend someone's sensitive feelings. And of course no other President, in the HISTORY of SotU's have EVER said anything even REMOTELY as "controversial". Give me a break. CLEARLY MANY thought that Bush didn't deserve respect at the end of his term. Look at all of the ridiculous vitriol that was all over the internet. And that is also OBVIOUSLY not my point. My point was that there were those that were in attendance at Bush's SotU addressess that didn't respect him or his stances. But you don't see any of them bursting out.
It's worse actually. Joe Wilson's outburst was not during a State of the Union speech. It was during time the President asked to speak to the joint session of congress about health care. The SOTU is supposed to be a commentary on the State of the Union. Not a chance to have a one-sided attack on the other branches of the government. That's why it made news. I think Obama's calling out the SC during the SOTU was worse than Joe Wilson yelling back because the implication is that while he's speaking, you can't question him. Where is that in the constitution? It has never happened before that a President has called-out the Supreme Court during a State of the Union. Show me where it has happened?
TOTALLY spaced that off. Thanks for the correction. |
| 2013-02-12 12:17 PM in reply to: #4618706 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union Ok, this is just hilarious. If you google "Outbursts in the state of the union", This thread is on the second page!!!! HA! |
| 2013-02-12 12:18 PM in reply to: #4619155 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: State of the Union GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 12:09 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:50 AM Really? You actually think those are the same? Then he shouldn't say anything during the SotU. Heaven forbit it might offend someone's sensitive feelings. And of course no other President, in the HISTORY of SotU's have EVER said anything even REMOTELY as "controversial". Give me a break. CLEARLY MANY thought that Bush didn't deserve respect at the end of his term. Look at all of the ridiculous vitriol that was all over the internet. And that is also OBVIOUSLY not my point. My point was that there were those that were in attendance at Bush's SotU addressess that didn't respect him or his stances. But you don't see any of them bursting out.
It's worse actually. Joe Wilson's outburst was not during a State of the Union speech. It was during time the President asked to speak to the joint session of congress about health care. The SOTU is supposed to be a commentary on the State of the Union. Not a chance to have a one-sided attack on the other branches of the government. That's why it made news. I think Obama's calling out the SC during the SOTU was worse than Joe Wilson yelling back because the implication is that while he's speaking, you can't question him. Where is that in the constitution? It has never happened before that a President has called-out the Supreme Court during a State of the Union. Show me where it has happened?
So, a president promotes his agenda in the state of the union address? And this shocks you guys? Here, let me give you the rundown of how this is going to go: `Mister Speaker, the President of the United States!' (STANDING OVATION) `My fellow Americans ...' (STANDING OVATION!) `I am here tonight ...' (STANDING OVATION) and so on and so forth. And then the president will lay out his agenda for the next year, or four years, talk about what a great job he's done since 2008 and the challenges he faces from his enemies, foreign and domestic, praise the troops, say how sad it is that people are dying on the streets and in schools, say how he's going to make the country a better place and tell you why what you think matters. In between, there will be lots of STANDING OVATIONS! |
| 2013-02-12 12:20 PM in reply to: #4619168 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:17 PM Ok, this is just hilarious. If you google "Outbursts in the state of the union", This thread is on the second page!!!! HA! Google has drones? |
| 2013-02-12 12:21 PM in reply to: #4619172 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: State of the Union mr2tony - 2013-02-12 12:18 PM GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 12:09 PM So, a president promotes his agenda in the state of the union address? And this shocks you guys? Here, let me give you the rundown of how this is going to go: `Mister Speaker, the President of the United States!' (STANDING OVATION) `My fellow Americans ...' (STANDING OVATION!) `I am here tonight ...' (STANDING OVATION) and so on and so forth. And then the president will lay out his agenda for the next year, or four years, talk about what a great job he's done since 2008 and the challenges he faces from his enemies, foreign and domestic, praise the troops, say how sad it is that people are dying on the streets and in schools, say how he's going to make the country a better place and tell you why what you think matters. In between, there will be lots of STANDING OVATIONS! crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:50 AM Really? You actually think those are the same? Then he shouldn't say anything during the SotU. Heaven forbit it might offend someone's sensitive feelings. And of course no other President, in the HISTORY of SotU's have EVER said anything even REMOTELY as "controversial". Give me a break. CLEARLY MANY thought that Bush didn't deserve respect at the end of his term. Look at all of the ridiculous vitriol that was all over the internet. And that is also OBVIOUSLY not my point. My point was that there were those that were in attendance at Bush's SotU addressess that didn't respect him or his stances. But you don't see any of them bursting out.
It's worse actually. Joe Wilson's outburst was not during a State of the Union speech. It was during time the President asked to speak to the joint session of congress about health care. The SOTU is supposed to be a commentary on the State of the Union. Not a chance to have a one-sided attack on the other branches of the government. That's why it made news. I think Obama's calling out the SC during the SOTU was worse than Joe Wilson yelling back because the implication is that while he's speaking, you can't question him. Where is that in the constitution? It has never happened before that a President has called-out the Supreme Court during a State of the Union. Show me where it has happened?
Real glad the Bruins are playing so I have a real good excuse not to watch. |
| 2013-02-12 12:21 PM in reply to: #4619168 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:17 PM Ok, this is just hilarious. If you google "Outbursts in the state of the union", This thread is on the second page!!!! HA! That is some funny stuff right there. But is that just a function of the Googles knowing that we're linked to Begginer Triathlete? Didn't they do some kind of smart search thing to Google? Edited by GomesBolt 2013-02-12 12:22 PM |
| 2013-02-12 12:23 PM in reply to: #4619181 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: State of the Union GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 12:21 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:17 PM Ok, this is just hilarious. If you google "Outbursts in the state of the union", This thread is on the second page!!!! HA! That is some funny stuff right there. But is that just a function of the Googles knowing that we're linked to Begginer Triathlete? Didn't they do some kind of smart search thing to Google? Big Brother is watching! |
| 2013-02-12 12:26 PM in reply to: #4618706 |
Master 1730 Straight outta Compton | Subject: RE: State of the Union Does anyone remember in 2001 when there was video of Hillary Clinton yapping away and making a scene during Bush's first SotU? I can't find video of it, but it's etched in memory forever. |
| 2013-02-12 12:27 PM in reply to: #4619193 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union mcgilmartin - 2013-02-12 12:26 PM Does anyone remember in 2001 when there was video of Hillary Clinton yapping away and making a scene during Bush's first SotU? I can't find video of it, but it's etched in memory forever. Saw one of McCain nodding off, I believe 2-3 years ago. |
| 2013-02-12 12:29 PM in reply to: #4619123 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. |
| 2013-02-12 12:34 PM in reply to: #4619199 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 12:29 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
Literal much? I'm pretty certain that SOMETHING has been said that was "mocking" of someone/something. I am not a constitutional scholar. Nor am I a history major. So I would have to do some significant research, in 200+ years of SotU's to find somethign similar. In othe words, not going to happen. But I would be shocked if this was the first time. |
| 2013-02-12 12:35 PM in reply to: #4619212 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:34 PM scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 12:29 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
Literal much? I'm pretty certain that SOMETHING has been said that was "mocking" of someone/something. I am not a constitutional scholar. Nor am I a history major. So I would have to do some significant research, in 200+ years of SotU's to find somethign similar. In othe words, not going to happen. But I would be shocked if this was the first time. FAIL! |
| 2013-02-12 12:36 PM in reply to: #4619216 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union Left Brain - 2013-02-12 12:35 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:34 PM scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 12:29 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
Literal much? I'm pretty certain that SOMETHING has been said that was "mocking" of someone/something. I am not a constitutional scholar. Nor am I a history major. So I would have to do some significant research, in 200+ years of SotU's to find somethign similar. In othe words, not going to happen. But I would be shocked if this was the first time. FAIL! Evidence? |
| 2013-02-12 12:38 PM in reply to: #4619185 |
Expert 1186 North Cackalacky | Subject: RE: State of the Union mr2tony - 2013-02-12 1:23 PM GomesBolt - 2013-02-12 12:21 PM Big Brother is watching!crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:17 PM Ok, this is just hilarious. If you google "Outbursts in the state of the union", This thread is on the second page!!!! HA! That is some funny stuff right there. But is that just a function of the Googles knowing that we're linked to Begginer Triathlete? Didn't they do some kind of smart search thing to Google? I already told all of you that in the drone thread. We see everything you do. And what you're doing is still gross. No, not you. You. |
| 2013-02-12 12:44 PM in reply to: #4619199 |
Member 465 | Subject: RE: State of the Union scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 12:29 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
I have no clue why judges of the SCOTUS even go to the SOTU. The President is required to address Congress, not the SCOTUS. Edited by Jackemy1 2013-02-12 12:55 PM |
| 2013-02-12 12:49 PM in reply to: #4619217 |
Pro 15655 | Subject: RE: State of the Union crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:36 PM Left Brain - 2013-02-12 12:35 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:34 PM scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 12:29 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
Literal much? I'm pretty certain that SOMETHING has been said that was "mocking" of someone/something. I am not a constitutional scholar. Nor am I a history major. So I would have to do some significant research, in 200+ years of SotU's to find somethign similar. In othe words, not going to happen. But I would be shocked if this was the first time. FAIL! Evidence? You can't admittedly make crap up and then ask for evidence that the made up crap isn't true. Well.....being from Illinois, I suppose you can. |
| 2013-02-12 12:54 PM in reply to: #4619250 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: State of the Union Left Brain - 2013-02-12 12:49 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:36 PM Left Brain - 2013-02-12 12:35 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 12:34 PM scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 12:29 PM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:52 AM There wasn't anything to "call out" the Supreme Court on, politically. The highest court in the land had ruled on a legal matter, not issued a policy decision. The president should respect that, not mock it, especially in so public a forum. And no, I don't recall a president mocking a Supreme Court ruling in a SOTU Address before. Perhaps you can enlighten me. scoobysdad - 2013-02-12 11:42 AM crowny2 - 2013-02-12 11:26 AM There is a time and place for everything. During the address is not it. Agreed. So why use the venue to tell the members of the highest court in the land that, in your opinion as someone who has never ruled on any legal matter, they were flat out wrong in their decision. Do they not deserve respect as well? Does that not diminish their standing in the eyes of the entire American public? Then he shouldn't call out anything. He might diminsh their standing in the eyes of the entire American public. Heaven forbid someone's political sensitivities are damaged. Please. Like that crap hasn't happened before. Don't insult my intelligence.
Literal much? I'm pretty certain that SOMETHING has been said that was "mocking" of someone/something. I am not a constitutional scholar. Nor am I a history major. So I would have to do some significant research, in 200+ years of SotU's to find somethign similar. In othe words, not going to happen. But I would be shocked if this was the first time. FAIL! Evidence? You can't admittedly make crap up and then ask for evidence that the made up crap isn't true. Well.....being from Illinois, I suppose you can. ETA: deleted my own response for ad hominem attack.
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