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2009-04-01 2:58 PM
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I'm grateful for this thread.  It's time to come clean.

When my road bike was stolen in June 07, I didn't have $ to replace it for several months, I was training for a half-marathon, winter came... long story short, almost never rode the new bike.      Meanwhile, I've gotten used to the 45-pound ancient steel Schwinn cruiser I use for transportation (basket & pannier racks, I can ride with books, groceries, whatever!) - upright position, can see around me clearly for traffic, completely stable, can ALMOST track-stop.

So... last summer when i got back on the road bike, I was terrified.  It felt unstable and twitchy, my new clipless pedals never seemed to work right, I was SURE I was going to topple over if I had to slow down below 7mph -- which on the crowded Multi-Use-Trails around here is sadly often.  And I fell.  A lot.  My then-boyfriend was very alarmed at my multiplying collection of scrapes and bruises, and even begged me to take off the clipless pedals.  (He rides a hybrid.)

So... I gave up.    Confession: though I still hang around BT hoping one day this will change, right now I'm a former triathlete with a lovely road-bike-sculpture-thingy adorning my bedroom.  With fewer than 300 miles on it.

QUESTION:  Assuming I get brave enough to put air in the sculpture's tires and take it outside, do you think I should buy new pedals -- switch to the kind I had on my prior road bike?  Those were "hybrid" pedals, flat on one side & clipless on the other, and i never had a problem with them.  The bike is otherwise pretty much the same as my old one.

ALSO:  Any tips for working on stability/twitchiness issue?  last summer i would sometimes FORGET I wasn't on my cruiser and sort of turn my whole body to look for traffic, swerving wildly of course!  Huge adrenaline shots every time (what if there HAD been traffic?)

Thanks all, and thanks OP for this topic.



2009-04-01 3:03 PM
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Yes!!!! Especially with my tri bike, I'm more comfortable on the roadie.  But I defaintly get freaked! The only solution is to get out on the road! It will get better
2009-04-01 3:06 PM
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I'll chime in.   til about 2006 I rode an old aluminum road bike with clip ons.  Then I went to a tri bike, which I have been riding exclusively for the last three years.

just bought a carbon road bike.  It seems so light and fragile, I am not afraid of it being twitchy, I am afraid I am going to break it!   I've had it for two weeks and have yet to ride it (not solely for that reason)... 

2009-04-01 3:10 PM
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Time in the Saddle is all it takes - I'm into my 2nd season on my bike & I still get that pukey feeling a little nervous before a ride in (gasp) the real world.  Everyone goes through it & anyone who can't ride year long will tell you the first road ride is a nerve-wrecking, white knuckle adventure.  I second the motion about riding on paved trails (even though many will say that's equally scary with runners, dogs, strollers and what have you) - BUT what I like about riding on those trails is the confidence I gained each time - my own trail has several interrupted crossings, so you're forced to get used to clipping in & out (and sometimes at the last minute): bonus.  There are nice, long stretches of flat pavement, great for getting accustomed to aero: major bonus.  Now, if I can just pass the hydrate-while-in-motion test, I might start feeling like a cyclist (Advice on getting the water bottle from the cage, to my mouth and back into the cage behind me are welcome...my aero bottle will only go so far - ha).  The more your expose yourself to various situations on the bike, the more comfy you'll get - that's all it boils down to.  Keep coming to BT as well, we all have our fair share of falling stories and clipless pedal horrors.
2009-04-01 3:10 PM
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Yup. I've become a decent enough cyclist to place in my AG consistently, especially on the bike segment of small local tris, and I admit that I'm STILL anxious when I get on my tribike to do some solo training with LA traffic around. I almost never ride on the roads on weekdays out fear of getting hit! (Bike trainer, stationary bikes, for me.)

My entire first 6 weeks of owning my hot Cervelo consistent of 1 ride per week of <20 miles. And not because I was too weak, but because I was afraid to ride for longer. Especially with a run background , where training is "safe" and easy even in dense traffic, cycling can be unnerving.

You'll get used to it. Best way is to find a group of similarly-abilities riders (local bike/tri club) and do group rides with them. You'll feel MUCH more confident once you see other folks of your ability not only riding well, but chatting it up and enjoying themselves the entire time.

 

2009-04-01 3:21 PM
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wow hey guys, thank you all SO much, i feel 100% better reading all these responses.

until now, all i had thought of day and night was saving the money to buy this bike, and how i would be an unstoppable road warrior on it, and then the first thing i felt was...fear? it was a real let-down. but you've all made me feel like it'll just take some seat time and this bike and i will be as tight as i am with my hybrid!

i think i will re-think the routes i usually do...i don't have a rack for my car so i've been limited to what's directly accessible, which is a fast and busy major thoroughfare that goes through towns, has major potholes, lights, and busy traffic. when i first moved here and rode that on my hybrid, i was quite scared the first several times. i'll have to look into rail trails and quiet streets in my neighborhood.

i am also terrified of the water bottle - i don't think i can even do that on my hybrid, since i've been riding with camelbaks since i started biking. how dumb is it to ride my 27mi bike leg of the race with a 1.5 L camelbak rather than relying on bottles? it's not a lot of extra weight...

also, how crazy is it to ride with others during a race? that's part of what scares me with the new bike, i've only ever biked by myself...i am actually totally new to running and am doing several 5K's and 5 mi city road races before the tri so i can experience running with tons of people, so maybe i should make sure i do the same and get in on a local riders' group.  part of what worries me is that being comfortable with my bike on a dead-end street won't translate into being comfortable with 4000 other tri participants and their bikes.



2009-04-01 3:25 PM
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I personally think that there is no difference riding a road bike, hybrid or any other bike. If you can ride one properly you can ride them all. The only difference is adjusting to clipless pedals.
Take the SPD's off your bike and put regular platform pedals for a while. If it is properly fitted it should not feel different than your hybrid. Ride for couple days with your hands on the handle bar like you are riding your hybrid. After that put your SPD's back on and practice clipping and unclipping on a soft surface.
2009-04-01 3:27 PM
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A few years ago, after I put about 3000 miles on my hybrid, my hubby decided it was time for me to have a new bike. So for my birthday, we went to our lbs. I picked out a beautiful blue roadbike. It was ordered and came in. They fitted it for me & I got clip on aero bars, & those same hybrid pedals. The first time I took it on the road, I was so wobbly, you wouldn't believe. The good thing was since I didn't know anybody else who rode, I felt so spastic that I didn't dare tell anyone. I didn't know it was normal. So I just went out when there was the least amount of traffic and rode every single day. At the end of 2 weeks, I was very comfortable. However I didn't wear clip in shoes until Feb of this year. That was when I fell off my bike for the first time since I was 10. A whole other story. But to the OP, you'll get used to it with consistency. Then you'll wonder how you ever rode your old bike.
2009-04-01 3:42 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2009-04-01 10:37 AM

Me! And I've had my bike for 2 years :-P. It's not so much that I'm afraid of it ALL the time. Just sometimes. Yet it never seems to get better, ie, the more I ride it, the LESS I am comfortable with it. It's weird, I know. If there were endless stretches of nearly flat road (with a teeny tiny decline) with no cars or anything, I'd be a happy camper and would hammer away to my heart's content. Downhills scare the living crap out of me and the more I try to ride them, the more they scare me. So I'm not sure what to do with that situation, since practicing, which should make it comfortable, just makes it worse. So I never ride, so I continue to suck at triathlon since my bike is so weak.


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2009-04-01 3:43 PM
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The first time I rode my road bike was it's test ride from the LBS. First time ever on a road bike, and just had platform pedals for the test. It was love at first ride. But it was different from my hybrid, and then throwing in the clipless pedals, those first couple weeks or so were like an amusement park thrill ride where you are excited but a touch anxious.

That was one year and three months ago. I have since found myself going down this hill at a local park that is the site of a couple tri's every year, doing 40+ mph. Also had to get used to urban riding where I have two feet of riding space between the curb/parked cars on my right and moving traffic on my left. Anything can go wrong at anytime, but my bike and myself have a good understanding of each other.

Though I still, to this day, often find myself kicking and dancing, trying to get my unclipped foot back into the spd after having stopped at a sign or red light. Sometimes I nail it; sometimes I don't. I get nervous when there are cars behind me and I can't get spinning because I can't get clipped to the pedal.
2009-04-01 3:43 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2009-04-01 10:37 AM Me! And I've had my bike for 2 years :-P. It's not so much that I'm afraid of it ALL the time. Just sometimes. Yet it never seems to get better, ie, the more I ride it, the LESS I am comfortable with it. It's weird, I know. If there were endless stretches of nearly flat road (with a teeny tiny decline) with no cars or anything, I'd be a happy camper and would hammer away to my heart's content. Downhills scare the living crap out of me and the more I try to ride them, the more they scare me. So I'm not sure what to do with that situation, since practicing, which should make it comfortable, just makes it worse. So I never ride, so I continue to suck at triathlon since my bike is so weak.
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Glad I'm not the only one then! And I don't know what it is! I went with Turtlegirl one time to practice riding a hill. Every time I went down, I rode the brakes more and more and got more freaked out. Practicing is supposed to make it BETTER, not worse!!



2009-04-01 4:25 PM
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I'm with ya.  I'm fine on a mountain bike.  The other week I took my road bike out for the first time in many many years - almost fell over in the first 1/4 mile!  It feels unstable, 1st gear feels like 5th on my mb, and I'm sure those skinny tires are gonna pop at just the wrong moment.

I ride on country roads, but still the cars, wind, dogs, and "potential" speed freak me out.  I guess it just comes with time.  But for now...  yikes!

2009-04-01 4:48 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2009-04-01 1:37 PM Me! And I've had my bike for 2 years :-P. It's not so much that I'm afraid of it ALL the time. Just sometimes. Yet it never seems to get better, ie, the more I ride it, the LESS I am comfortable with it. It's weird, I know. If there were endless stretches of nearly flat road (with a teeny tiny decline) with no cars or anything, I'd be a happy camper and would hammer away to my heart's content. Downhills scare the living crap out of me and the more I try to ride them, the more they scare me. So I'm not sure what to do with that situation, since practicing, which should make it comfortable, just makes it worse. So I never ride, so I continue to suck at triathlon since my bike is so weak.

I'm not that far off from this sensation as well.  I like riding outside.  Ride to work when able.  Things like that.  I've had my road bike for about 4 years now. 

But going downhill, speeds getting 35mph and up, scare the heck out of me.  I'm fully cognizant that a little pot hole, a blown tire, unseen road debris, whatever, and I'll be moving down the asphault on my skin. 

I'll say that experience at higher speeds does help some.  First part of the yrea, I hate getting over 30mph.  But that gets adjusted to and the fear speed increases. 

I've gone upwards of 50mph on the bike.  I was gripping hard for dear life.  Of course, that was probably the worst thing I could have done as a loose body would likely react more easily to a bump or whatever.  

I guess comfort at speed just comes with experience.

2009-04-01 5:03 PM
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Agreed! Totally normal...I was there just about 10 weeks ago (never got on a road bike before then.)  Now I'd say I'm very comfortable!  My advice:

• stay away from the aero bars for awhile...give it a few weeks

• if you're having pedal trouble (I did BIG TIME) try Speedplay Pedals.  That was the one upgrade I did and I can't even tell you what a huge difference they made for me! 

• stay away from traffic for a few weeks if possible

• get a trainer and use it for intervals/tempo

I was able to improve from a totally green road biker who averaged about 14 mph and was scared at every cadence to a somewhat confident cyclist averaging almost 19 mph over 40k in my first tri in just about 10 weeks.  You'll get there too!  The learning curve in my experience is very very friendly.    Good luck!!!!

 

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wurkit_gurl - 2009-04-01 1:43 PM

SpiritFire - 2009-04-01 4:42 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2009-04-01 10:37 AM Me! And I've had my bike for 2 years :-P. It's not so much that I'm afraid of it ALL the time. Just sometimes. Yet it never seems to get better, ie, the more I ride it, the LESS I am comfortable with it. It's weird, I know. If there were endless stretches of nearly flat road (with a teeny tiny decline) with no cars or anything, I'd be a happy camper and would hammer away to my heart's content. Downhills scare the living crap out of me and the more I try to ride them, the more they scare me. So I'm not sure what to do with that situation, since practicing, which should make it comfortable, just makes it worse. So I never ride, so I continue to suck at triathlon since my bike is so weak.
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Glad I'm not the only one then! And I don't know what it is! I went with Turtlegirl one time to practice riding a hill. Every time I went down, I rode the brakes more and more and got more freaked out. Practicing is supposed to make it BETTER, not worse!!

Some hills are like that. I've topped out at 60+ in Colorado, but a hill here in phoenix I'm all over the brakes at about 35. For some reason that hill just scares the bejeeburs out of me. (What is a bejeebur, anyway?)

Edited to add: Oh, and on the pedals. I recommend Look, or any other pedal where you can adjust the clip tension. You can make the Looks so easy to slip out of you come out if you breathe wrong. Great for learning clipless.

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2009-04-01 5:41 PM
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I find this thread interesting as being afraid is not part of me just learning where to ride and gaining the skills.

I struggle with swimming and see a correlation..those of you that swam as a kid it comes back quickly and you feel comfortable in the water. Me I played in the water as a kid. We spent summers on an island spending hours a day playing in the water. As a kid I had two road bikes and did a 500 mile week bike trip in rural Minnesota when I was 14. I grew up with the goal to ride my bike across the country. I haven't yet but I'm only 47 and I will. For me riding a bike is natural and I just feel comfortable doing it.  When I ride I feel one with my bike, I think where I want to go and I do..no real thought to what to do/why.

I started bike racing last couple years and love cyclocross as it is a high effort intense, a little dangerous sport that rocks.

It will come..riding is amazing and rocks..honestly I love riding and any day riding is a better day. I hope that comes for you. I day dream of places to ride and imagine most roads I drive on what it would be like to ride on. It is how I'm wired cycling is just part of my core. It makes me sad so many folks are nervous or uncomfortable.

Find folks that can help you. My bike race team has a class/clinic with 4 3 hour sessions of riding that you get advice, instruction on basic riding skills and those needed to race including pacelines and such. It would be helpful for anyone wanting to be more comfortable riding even if you have no desire to race.

You need pedals you can get in and out of easily.

My husband had a brain tumor and lost the balance nerve on one side so his balance is not very good. He has double sided pedals with mtb pedals on one side and flat pedal other side. I thought they were a good idea but I see them harder to clip in than standard double sided mtb pedals I use on my cross and winter bikes. 

I hope you will perserve to feel comfortable. Anyone live near MA and want someone to ride with them to get comfortable and give you some tips, PM me, I'd love to help out if I could.



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sabominator - 2009-04-01 1:13 PM

hi guys, i'm a newbie training for my first triathlon (oly) in june.

i've been riding a bike for 3 years now, but it's an entry-level heavy hybrid with front suspension, thick tires and a very upright position. i tend not to take it over 25-30 mile rides because my legs just get smoked.

i've wanted a road bike for a long time, and bought one so i'd have it for the tri. i got a specialized transition multi-sport, which seems like a nice cross between a road and tri bike; the geometry is more road bike-like but it has aero bars and more aero-style wheels.

i also invested in SPD pedals, which are totally new to me. the combo of clipless pedals, the new seating position, the geometry, and the instability of this bike compared to my hybrid are so different...i took my new bike out yesterday and only made it 7 miles before i was just too afraid to keep going. every time i was near heavy traffic or had to get going at a light, i was petrified. once i was cranking it felt great and hills seemed so much easier, but i found the whole experience pretty intimidating.

is this normal? how long will it take me to feel semi-comfortable on my new bike? is it feasible to race on it in june, or is 2 months not enough time (say i get out 2-3 times a week for 1-2 hours of riding each time) to acclimitize, and should i consider riding my exhausting hybrid in the race? i'm feeling kind of discouraged, i had thought my new bike would be nothing but exciting...

Practice makes perfect.  I've been biking forever, and I was terrified to bike down here in northern WV.  You'll be fine by June!  If you're really scared, find a parking lot and practice some drills.  Going from a hybrid to a true roadie is like going from a Camry to a Corvette.

Don't get discouraged!  And good luck racing!



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2009-04-01 5:48 PM
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yes, I've had my bike for less than 2 weeks so I am very afraid. I fell over 3 times the first night I brought it home because I can't get out of the pedals. My 7 year old son said, "Don't worry Mom, I fell off a lot when I was learning to ride a bike too." It doesn't help that the roads around here are so bad I have to dodge potholes. And many times I've stopped, gotten off, and walked it through intersections!
2009-04-01 7:57 PM
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It's very natural to be afraid of riding a road/tri bike. I was a mess for the first...oh, month or so riding my road bike. I actually fell on my "test ride", right outside of the bike shop! Thankfully, nobody saw me go down. I was mortified! Especially since I hadn't actually PAID for the thing yet...so I was freaked out that I had scratched or dented the bike up before I even took it home!

Even having 3 century rides, 2 triathlons, and countless training miles under my belt...I still sometimes get that nervous feeling in my gut before some rides. Did my first ride of the season last weekend...40 miles, and it felt awesome to be out on a gorgeous day. Yeah, my nerves kept me a bit "on edge" for the entire ride...but that will only get better with more riding time. Keep at it with the road bike...in time you will grow to really love it!
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The first rides when I switched from a mountain bike to a road bike were pretty tense. Really tense when I went down what I now think of as a short hill but back then I thought I was flying (looking back I probably was going about 22mph because I was braking so much). It gets better. Same bike but different hill I hit 42mph last weekend. You get used to it. Just hang in there and get used to it gradually.
2009-04-02 4:49 PM
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I'm in the middle of the same transition. I currently have a Trek hybrid, and I am waiting for my Cervelo S1. My first tri (sprint) is in late June with another planned in August (oly). 

I went ahead and switched to clipless pedals a few weeks ago to get used to them. I have done several rides with them. They still make me nervous every time I have to stop, but I'm getting much more comfortable with them.

Can't wait for the new bike! I am glad, however, to not be making the bike and pedal change at the same time.



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codythumbs - 2009-04-01 6:03 PM

Agreed! Totally normal...I was there just about 10 weeks ago (never got on a road bike before then.)  Now I'd say I'm very comfortable!  My advice:

• stay away from the aero bars for awhile...give it a few weeks

• if you're having pedal trouble (I did BIG TIME) try Speedplay Pedals.  That was the one upgrade I did and I can't even tell you what a huge difference they made for me! 

• stay away from traffic for a few weeks if possible

• get a trainer and use it for intervals/tempo

I was able to improve from a totally green road biker who averaged about 14 mph and was scared at every cadence to a somewhat confident cyclist averaging almost 19 mph over 40k in my first tri in just about 10 weeks.  You'll get there too!  The learning curve in my experience is very very friendly.    Good luck!!!!

 Thanks for this inspiring post!  I wish you had logs so that I could see how you did it, but instead I'll just ask here:

*how often have you been riding these 10 weeks?

*how long at a time?

*flat/hills?

Thanks!

2009-06-23 3:19 PM
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i would just like to follow up on this thread, since i had so many people be so encouraging and give great advice.

i kept making myself take out my new bike after posting this thread; i did it at least 2x a week. one of the most helpful things i did was a group ride with non-tri friends on their comfort bikes, and we went on local rail trails. these were flat, smooth, and relatively empty, so i really got to focus on connecting with my bike. this was how i became more comfortable with my clipless pedals, and eventually with my aero bars. having friends along helped, because it made me feel like i had some backup if i fell and needed help.

little by little, i became more and more comfortable. the result?
i did my first tri on june 6th. the bike was my favorite part.
i did well on a very hilly and challenging course; i averaged 19.3 mph, i only used my brakes in the finish chute, and i passed a hell of a lot of riders. i was on the aero bars any time i had the opportunity.

that's a far cry from how i thought i'd be when i posted this thread! so thanks all for your support, and anyone else who's out there afraid of the bike like i was, don't worry, eventually you'll feel like that metal frame is an extension of your body and you'll love every second of it
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sabominator - 2009-06-23 4:19 PM i would just like to follow up on this thread, since i had so many people be so encouraging and give great advice.

i kept making myself take out my new bike after posting this thread; i did it at least 2x a week. one of the most helpful things i did was a group ride with non-tri friends on their comfort bikes, and we went on local rail trails. these were flat, smooth, and relatively empty, so i really got to focus on connecting with my bike. this was how i became more comfortable with my clipless pedals, and eventually with my aero bars. having friends along helped, because it made me feel like i had some backup if i fell and needed help.

little by little, i became more and more comfortable. the result?
i did my first tri on june 6th. the bike was my favorite part.
i did well on a very hilly and challenging course; i averaged 19.3 mph, i only used my brakes in the finish chute, and i passed a hell of a lot of riders. i was on the aero bars any time i had the opportunity.

that's a far cry from how i thought i'd be when i posted this thread! so thanks all for your support, and anyone else who's out there afraid of the bike like i was, don't worry, eventually you'll feel like that metal frame is an extension of your body and you'll love every second of it


Congrats! Next thing you know you'll be signing up for a crit or something.
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I had this problem too. I think I was more scared of falling or not getting our of my pedals in time. But once I bit the dust a few times I learned what to expect and now, I can't remember the last time it happened; just as some said it becomes like second nature. Now that I wrote that I am probably gonna lay my carbon bike down tomorrow.

The bigger problem I had was going from road to TRI bike. I felt good initially in my aero position, compared to my bolt on aero bars on my road bike. But going over bumps and taking corners in aero took getting used to, specially with the added speed on corners thinking you would not go as fast as you are and not feeling good enough to take your hands off the bars to get to the brakes. That makes you real comfortable or broken real quick.
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