What do you think of early voting? (Page 2)

1)  Well as far as fraud goes, that's just as easily manipulated in the Diebold system on election day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7R1_ixtlyc

2)  Missing up to 5 weeks of information?  Possibly, but the average voter is not very well informed anyway, they've probably made up their mind no matter what.  5 weeks won't make a difference.  If it's an undecided voter then he'll probably wait if he feels he wants to.

I've voted early ballot and absentee for years.  My ballot usually comes 2-3 weeks before my voter guide.  I then read the guide (especially for propositions) and do my research.  I usually mail my early ballot the week before the election.

I discovered another thing I really don't like about early voting.  Gallup just released this today:

In U.S., 15% of Registered Voters Have Already Cast Ballots

If you go down the page a bit it has this little nugget:

On election day nobody releases results on the east coast until after polling locations are closed because they're worried about the impact on people out West voting.  Remember when they called Florida early for Bush and people complained that it depressed the vote out West.

So, how is it OK to spread information like this that says one Candidate is way ahead or way behind.  Isn't that going to have an effect on voters?

On a side note.  Holy crap, Romney's really kicking butt.

I don't know how hard it would be to show-up at the polls with a photoshopped electric bill showing your name on a bill from Duke Energy Ohio and vote.  I would watch the local hotels for buses with out of state plates...

http://truth-out.org/news/item/10981-new-nationwide-study-of-election-fraud-since-2000-finds-just-10-cases-of-in-person-voter-fraud

Interesting "report".  I put that in quotes because I don't know much about Truth Out so don't know if they have a slant (which appears they definitely do based on the comments in the article).

http://truth-out.org/news/item/10981-new-nationwide-study-of-election-fraud-since-2000-finds-just-10-cases-of-in-person-voter-fraud

Interesting "report".  I put that in quotes because I don't know much about Truth Out so don't know if they have a slant (which appears they definitely do based on the comments in the article).

For a moment, forget fraud, poor people, Democrat, or Republican.  Why is Election Day on a TUESDAY?!

Because in 1845, Congress needed to pick a time for Americans to vote.  We were an agrarian society.  We traveled by horse and buggy.  Farmers needed a day to get to the county seat, a day to vote, and a day to get back, without interfering with the three days of worship.  So that left Tuesday and Wednesday, but Wednesday was market day, so Tuesday was the logical choice.

But there are millions of American today who can't take the day off and don't have a long enough lunch time to stand in line to wait to vote.  You can wait for after 1st shift work, but some people have family commitments and/or second jobs.  For a lot of people, it's just plain TOUGH to vote on election day.

For that reason and that reason alone, I think allowing people to vote early, especially on a weekend, is very helpful.  I don't think there's enough evidence to show widespread fraud.  But certainly we don't like to disenfranchise people inthis country and make voting a burdensom thing that could potentially cost them their job.

I don't vote early simply because I have the type of job that allows me to take the time or work from home.  So it's not a burden to me to get out on Tuesday.  But I think I'm in a strict minority of voters.

For a moment, forget fraud, poor people, Democrat, or Republican.  Why is Election Day on a TUESDAY?!

Because in 1845, Congress needed to pick a time for Americans to vote.  We were an agrarian society.  We traveled by horse and buggy.  Farmers needed a day to get to the county seat, a day to vote, and a day to get back, without interfering with the three days of worship.  So that left Tuesday and Wednesday, but Wednesday was market day, so Tuesday was the logical choice.

But there are millions of American today who can't take the day off and don't have a long enough lunch time to stand in line to wait to vote.  You can wait for after 1st shift work, but some people have family commitments and/or second jobs.  For a lot of people, it's just plain TOUGH to vote on election day.

For that reason and that reason alone, I think allowing people to vote early, especially on a weekend, is very helpful.  I don't think there's enough evidence to show widespread fraud.  But certainly we don't like to disenfranchise people inthis country and make voting a burdensom thing that could potentially cost them their job.

I don't vote early simply because I have the type of job that allows me to take the time or work from home.  So it's not a burden to me to get out on Tuesday.  But I think I'm in a strict minority of voters.

You voted Early and Absentee???

My hand is sore from filling out so many absentee ballots last night.  I mustve filled in about 700...  Roseanne Barr and Cindy Sheehan for President!!!

For a moment, forget fraud, poor people, Democrat, or Republican.  Why is Election Day on a TUESDAY?!

Because in 1845, Congress needed to pick a time for Americans to vote.  We were an agrarian society.  We traveled by horse and buggy.  Farmers needed a day to get to the county seat, a day to vote, and a day to get back, without interfering with the three days of worship.  So that left Tuesday and Wednesday, but Wednesday was market day, so Tuesday was the logical choice.

But there are millions of American today who can't take the day off and don't have a long enough lunch time to stand in line to wait to vote.  You can wait for after 1st shift work, but some people have family commitments and/or second jobs.  For a lot of people, it's just plain TOUGH to vote on election day.

For that reason and that reason alone, I think allowing people to vote early, especially on a weekend, is very helpful.  I don't think there's enough evidence to show widespread fraud.  But certainly we don't like to disenfranchise people inthis country and make voting a burdensom thing that could potentially cost them their job.

I don't vote early simply because I have the type of job that allows me to take the time or work from home.  So it's not a burden to me to get out on Tuesday.  But I think I'm in a strict minority of voters.

Hit the nail on the head.

I have a math background but I'm not a statistician.  But I'm sure there are some out there who have modeled the voting system in various states.  You're looking for statistical significance.

If I can vote twice, it doesn't really matter, except on principle.

If a bunch of people can vote fraudulently, but both major parties are equally good at it, it doesn't really matter.

If there's a way to heavily tilt a race one way or the other - like hacking an electronic voting system - that's a huge concern.

And why in November?

November has fine weather if you're in Florida, but anywhere else, you've got a chance for snow which is probably the biggest weather impact (outside of the Hurricopalypse).

I don't know if it's legal to fire you for leaving to vote.  I thought that was protected.  But if you're an hourly worker on a construction site and lose hours standing in a voting line, yeah, that sucks.

Like I said before, I'm all for 1 week before the election (for example, I voted on the first available day, last saturday) but 1 month before is kinda ridiculous and burdensome for libraries at least in Florida...

'GomesBolt' and 'trinnas' - Yeah.  It may be illegal to fire someone who wants to leave the job to go vote.  But that doesn't mean that management doesn't intimidate people all the time.  Low-paid hourly workers sometimes can't afford to leave the job and/or they get tagged as "the first to go" with any other excuse.  Millions of Americans work in abject fear of losing their job at any moment.  I've been there a bunch of times.  Law shmaw.  Many workplaces create a culture.

Oh you may have been wrongly terminated, but while you're waiting for years for some state lawyer to help fight your case, you've got bills to pay and you're trying to find another job.  And if you should win?  "OK, you can have your old job back."  In the end, is it worth it?  It never is.

That law has no teeth.  So you have to give people a time, place and way to vote that doesn't put their job at risk.

As to November?  Probably because it was just after harvest season and November is in between harvest and prepping for next year's planting.  Or something along those lines.

Hit the nail on the head.

I have a math background but I'm not a statistician.  But I'm sure there are some out there who have modeled the voting system in various states.  You're looking for statistical significance.

If I can vote twice, it doesn't really matter, except on principle.

If a bunch of people can vote fraudulently, but both major parties are equally good at it, it doesn't really matter.

If there's a way to heavily tilt a race one way or the other - like hacking an electronic voting system - that's a huge concern.