FDA Lowers Age for Next-Day Birth Control (Page 2)

Just another step towards lowering our standards in a degrading society.  

America.  Where a pill and a diagnosis absolve us from every bad decision we make.

Plan B has a tertiary mechanism that is an abortifacient.

This is from Plan B One-Step FAQ page (my bold):

Plan B One-Step^® is one pill that has a higher dose of levonorgestrel, a hormone found in many birth control pills that healthcare professionals have been prescribing for several decades. Plan B One-Step^® works in a similar way to help prevent pregnancy from happening. It works mainly by stopping the release of an egg from the ovary. It is possible that Plan B One-Step^® may also work by preventing fertilization of an egg (the uniting of the sperm with the egg) or by preventing attachment (implantation) to the uterus (womb).

You can dissemble this all you want in order to feel better. The truth is that when Plan B One-Step acts in this tertiary manner it is no longer a contraceptive. Conception at that point has already taken place. It is an abortifacient.

So we've reached a point now where the state has taken away the natural rights of parents and given authority to children to take a potent drug that may cause the death of their own offspring.

Beautiful.

I understand that although that is written on the FDA mandated warning insert, there is no evidence that is the case.  Here is an article that discusses this issue:  http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/may/does-plan-b-cause-abortion.html

That's dissembling.

This is from another page on their site (my bold):

Emergency contraception is similar to a birth control pill, and works primarily by:

• Preventing ovulation
• Possibly preventing fertilization by altering tubal transport of sperm and/or egg
• Altering the endometrium, which may inhibit implantation

Call it what ever you like.  If the facts are that the drug does not inhibit implantation, then it does equate to abortion.  The scientific studies that I have read about are consistently challenging the language from the makers of Plan B that you placed in bold.

It's not just pagans and heathens viewing the scientific studies and working towards this conclusion - http://ncronline.org/news/catholic-journal-says-plan-b-does-not-cause-abortions

You have no evidence for that. The drug weakens the endometrium wall. How would you even set up a test to see what happens after conception?

And regarding the National Catholic Reporter; that's a heterodox publication. If you want to know what most definitely is not Catholic thought, then read the National Catholic Reporter.

The facts of science are on the side of the pro life movement. It's hard to wake up from a dream sometimes.

Your exactly right that I have no evidence since I'm neither a doctor or a scientist, which is why I used the word IF.  I'm not going to do any tests to see what happens after conception (other than the two I was personally involved with which are now 10 and 8). 

The point is that either the drug inhibits implantation or it doesn't.  If it doesn't, then is not abortion - which is what the scientific studies seem to suggest.  

Back to my original statement - I would rather see a girl use Plan B than have an unwanted pregnancy or a typical abortion.  I added typical to leave open the question of whether Plan B actually inhibits implantation. 

How can they draw that conclusion?

Probability says 7, but there were only 6 confirmed pregnancies.

Isn't the plan b pill the same as a birth control pill but a much higher dosage.

I think it's strange that you have to have a prescription to get a lessor dose medication but not a higher dose one. Regardless of the reasons.

Here's their conclusion (my bold):

CONCLUSIONS The two regimens of levonorgestrel caused either only minor or no alterations in markers of endometrial receptivity. New agents targeting the endometrial development should be explored in order to increase EC efficacy.

So the manufacturer of Plan B is in fact correct in saying that it may prevent implatation.

I mean gosh, you're arguing with the manufacturer's own claims. I didn't make that up.

I must be.....because the more access to birth control there is the better as far as I'm concerned. 

Geez....now I'm wondering if I was a teenage girl.

<raises hand again to bolded part>  Man, I sound like such a square. 

You do make a lot of great points and it may shock you, but I agree with you.  I'm every bit as passionate about protecting life as Don is, and I do everything I can to teach kids abstinence and so they are never put in this situation.  However, I'm not so naive to think that kids aren't going to have sex and banning teen sex would ever do anything so I am not opposed to teens having access to birth control.  I don't like it, I don't want them to do it, but if they're going to then I want them to be safe about it.

As I mentioned with Plan B, I'm conflicted, because I'm against all forms of abortion but as is being discussed this one is in that gray area for me.  I believe the same hormone used in Plan B is used in regular birth control pills and does the same thing to the uterine walls.  So, technically standard birth control could be described as an abortifacient.

Even to throw in a personal story.  My wife always took the pill for birth control and when we were 20 she became pregnant while still on the pill.  She was sick after a few weeks and went to the doctor and discovered she had miscarried.  Could the pill have caused the miscarriage?  possibly.  Do either of us think she had an abortion?  Absolutely not.

You're also correct about sexual assaults, in that most are perpetrated by somebody close which really sucks.  I commend you for helping kids in this area.  I do a lot of work trying to prevent these things on the other end of the spectrum.  I run a group that help's men who suffer from sexual addictions.

You're still a girl

that comment was only in response to all the claims of "my kids will come to me when they decide to have sex" not to everyone in the thread.

Is that your position

also, both pills have the same 2 hormones, but the Plan B pill uses them in a very different ratio and dosage.

I'm a missionary to get this point across.

I'll hit you with my purse!

snerk

Fornication is a really bad idea. 

The pill, more than any single thing, has contributed to the increase in fornication in our culture.  

Since the pill, we've had a majorly significant increase in:

• Divorce
• STDs
• Abortion
• Single parent families

I'll leave aside what seems to be major increases in mental health issues among teens and young people.

And the solution for all of these problems? More contraception.

Really, it seems like a type of insanity.