SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! (Page 216)

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 5:53 PM

Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon.  Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity.  It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's.  I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles.  During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle.  I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad.  So, I shut it down and walked home.  My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out.  I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks.  Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run.  I ran for 85.  So I guess it's not too bad. 

Does anyone else stand on their feet all day at work and do you think that affects your workout performance if it is in the pm?  I try to schedule long runs / bikes on my days off, but every once in while I miss one and cannot move it.  (Like today.)

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 6:53 PM

Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon.  Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity.  It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's.  I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles.  During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle.  I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad.  So, I shut it down and walked home.  My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out.  I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks.  Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run.  I ran for 85.  So I guess it's not too bad. 

Does anyone else stand on their feet all day at work and do you think that affects your workout performance if it is in the pm?  I try to schedule long runs / bikes on my days off, but every once in while I miss one and cannot move it.  (Like today.)

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 4:53 PM

Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon.  Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity.  It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's.  I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles.  During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle.  I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad.  So, I shut it down and walked home.  My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out.  I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks.  Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run.  I ran for 85.  So I guess it's not too bad. 

Does anyone else stand on their feet all day at work and do you think that affects your workout performance if it is in the pm?  I try to schedule long runs / bikes on my days off, but every once in while I miss one and cannot move it.  (Like today.)

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 5:53 PM

Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon.  Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity.  It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's.  I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles.  During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle.  I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad.  So, I shut it down and walked home.  My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out.  I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks.  Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run.  I ran for 85.  So I guess it's not too bad. 

Does anyone else stand on their feet all day at work and do you think that affects your workout performance if it is in the pm?  I try to schedule long runs / bikes on my days off, but every once in while I miss one and cannot move it.  (Like today.)

fattyfatfat - 2009-08-13 7:23 PM

That's a hellavu run.  91/high 80's is crazy.  You might not have made it as far as you wanted to in the planned time, btw forget that 5 minutes, but considering the elements, you have no reason whatsoever to hang your head.  And really we're talking big picture here... 2.5 miles, don't sweat it.   Awesome job out there man.  You read my inspire...I was walking after 20 minutes today.  Sucks! 

No I'm not on my feet all day.  Please think of me stuck in an office during those late fall SC days.  

btw,  If this happens will you trade a bunch of cold beer for a bed after the race?

I've heard a few of those rumors.  If it happens, of course you are welcome.  My wife can cook a mean baked ziti for carbo loading! 

kt65 - 2009-08-13 8:52 PM


Hey Kim, any details on your new plan? or are you planning to slowly enlighten us?   And as the senior female in this tribe I resent the "older" remark! 

SSMinnow - 2009-08-13 6:55 PM

You mean the part about my new coach being your coach???    Ahhhh, how did I leave that out?!  Suzy has graciously allowed me access to her awesome coach.  I hope I am up for the challenge!  He knows I am not as hardcore as our Suzy, but is going to try to get me to the finish line in good shape and free of injury this year!  I'm excited!  See Suzy, I am already thinking positively

SSMinnow - 2009-08-13 7:34 PM

Chris

It was only 91F with 80% humidity? Take a look at this chart and cut yourself some slack.  Running in heat has a significant impact on performance and can be very dangerous.  There is no way you can ingest enough liquids to compensate for the sweat loss so dont even try.  Do you have access to a TM in an AC location for at least part of your run?  If so, you may want to start a few miles inside before moving outside or vv. It will take more out of you t try to continue under those conditions and only hurt subsequent workouts.  One thing I am learning this year is the next workout is as important as the current one so regroup and knock the next one out of the park.  I too have a desk job so cannot offer much in the way of solutions about standing on your feet.  You might want to post something in the general forum.


Hey Kim, any details on your new plan? or are you planning to slowly enlighten us?   And as the senior female in this tribe I resent the "older" remark! 

TrevorC - 2009-08-13 9:40 PM

Really??? I thought all you did was train! How was the swim in Gale force winds??
And you have amazing info sometimes Suzy..that chart is awesome. So Chris you're off the hook.

SSMinnow - 2009-08-13 9:34 PM

Chris

It was only 91F with 80% humidity? Take a look at this chart and cut yourself some slack.  Running in heat has a significant impact on performance and can be very dangerous.  There is no way you can ingest enough liquids to compensate for the sweat loss so dont even try.  Do you have access to a TM in an AC location for at least part of your run?  If so, you may want to start a few miles inside before moving outside or vv. It will take more out of you t try to continue under those conditions and only hurt subsequent workouts.  One thing I am learning this year is the next workout is as important as the current one so regroup and knock the next one out of the park.  I too have a desk job so cannot offer much in the way of solutions about standing on your feet.  You might want to post something in the general forum.


Hey Kim, any details on your new plan? or are you planning to slowly enlighten us?   And as the senior female in this tribe I resent the "older" remark! 

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-13 5:53 PM

Unfortunately I'm back a little too soon.  Today was the first day this year I have felt the effects of the humidity.  It was only 91 degrees, but the humidity was in the high 80's.  I went through two 8 oz bottles of GE and 2 8 oz bottles of water on my FuelBelt and I just hit 8.5 miles.  During my last 11 mile run I had just finished my fourth bottle.  I was even beginning to cramp a little in my left foot and my left quad.  So, I shut it down and walked home.  My shirt was completely soaked - I literally rung it out.  I'm really disappointed, but feel I did the right thing to do with my race on Sun and my big race in six weeks.  Besides, my plan called for a 90 min. run.  I ran for 85.  So I guess it's not too bad. 

Does anyone else stand on their feet all day at work and do you think that affects your workout performance if it is in the pm?  I try to schedule long runs / bikes on my days off, but every once in while I miss one and cannot move it.  (Like today.)

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-14 7:55 AM My wife and I are booking our vac. for 2010 this week.  Check out where we are staying:

http://www.wimco.com/villa-rentals/tortola/west-end/high-point.aspx

We stayed here last time:

http://www.wimco.com/villas/villa.aspx?pid=897813

Due to our schedules, we can't take too many vacations, but when we go, we do it right! 

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-08-14 6:55 AM

tahrens - 2009-08-14 7:57 AM My next race is the SAVAGEMAN Olympic in September. The race organizers just sent out an email with a detailed breakdown of the race course.  Doesn't this sound just peachy?  Major uuggghhhh!!!

Average water temperatures:  66 degrees
Average air temperatures in the am: below 50 degrees
Average cyclists should have a 27 tooth cog, and weaker cyclists should have a triple front chainring or compact cranks.

Name	Location	"Savage" Category	Length	Avg Grade	Max Grade
Toothpick	0.5 mi	4th Savagery	0.25 mi	9%	16%
Frank Brenneman Rd	8.6 mi	1st Savagery	0.7 mi	10%	23%

tahrens - 2009-08-14 9:57 AM My next race is the SAVAGEMAN Olympic in September. The race organizers just sent out an email with a detailed breakdown of the race course.  Doesn't this sound just peachy?  Major uuggghhhh!!!

Average water temperatures:  66 degrees
Average air temperatures in the am: below 50 degrees
Average cyclists should have a 27 tooth cog, and weaker cyclists should have a triple front chainring or compact cranks.

Name	Location	"Savage" Category	Length	Avg Grade	Max Grade
Toothpick	0.5 mi	4th Savagery	0.25 mi	9%	16%
Frank Brenneman Rd	8.6 mi	1st Savagery	0.7 mi	10%	23%

My next race is the SAVAGEMAN Olympic in September. The race organizers just sent out an email with a detailed breakdown of the race course.  Doesn't this sound just peachy?  Major uuggghhhh!!!

SSMinnow - 2009-08-14 11:00 AM Hey Tracy--The thought of 66F water and 50F air temperature sounds pretty good to this Wisconsinite.  That is about what it is like at our house in Nothern WI a lot of the summer.  Then I read on about the course and fainted. .  I am grunting like a mule going up the 375ft 1m climb on the IM Course.  I would be spending a lot of time on my feet in Savageman! YOWZA.

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tahrens - 2009-08-14 10:38 AM
The main problem with the temperature is that it will still be quite hot in NC in September and then to go to the shock of cold water is hard.  And if you read my RR from last year I spent a LOT OF TIME on my feet with my bike.  However I am determined to take a big chunk of time off last year!  Excuse me now while I go climb a hill then puke!!  Gggggggrrrrrrr