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 2009-04-24 10:14 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master  1467    Small Town |  Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN!I need help figuring out something for my swims... flip turns. I can do them without going the wrong way or what not, but my real problem is getting water in my nose. Quick history: I had this same problem last year when I was learning to swim. Every time I put my face in the water, water went up my nose. I had to learn how to breath. So I know I can learn how to breath right doing flip turns, but I need more instruction. There are only 2 articles on this site (I didn't search the forums) that cover flip turns. They both just say to exhale while executing the flip. Ok, tried that, it didn't work. I'm not sure if the force of the flip is causing the water to just go up there and hang out in my nose or if I'm just plain not doing something right. Am I overlooking the obvious that I just need to practice them more, or is there some types of drills that I can practice to work on the breathing aspect?? |
| 2009-04-24 10:16 AM in reply to: #2107792 |
Champion 9060  Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! JHagerman - 2009-04-24 11:14 AM I need help figuring out something for my swims... flip turns. I can do them without going the wrong way or what not, but my real problem is getting water in my nose. Quick history: I had this same problem last year when I was learning to swim. Every time I put my face in the water, water went up my nose. I had to learn how to breath. So I know I can learn how to breath right doing flip turns, but I need more instruction. There are only 2 articles on this site (I didn't search the forums) that cover flip turns. They both just say to exhale while executing the flip. Ok, tried that, it didn't work. I'm not sure if the force of the flip is causing the water to just go up there and hang out in my nose or if I'm just plain not doing something right. Am I overlooking the obvious that I just need to practice them more, or is there some types of drills that I can practice to work on the breathing aspect?? When you do the turn do you exhale out your nose? That seems like it would prevent water from getting in there. That's what I do when I attempt them (poorly) |
| 2009-04-24 10:52 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Hey Tony, if in your race report if I do read something like this "Pushed so hard , that I threw up in the bushes after the run", I will be disappointed. You promised!! |
| 2009-04-24 10:54 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Jeremy I will have never noticed, but I will try and pay attention on Monday. I think I usually exhale as a kick off the wall. I usually breath (2 strokes before) come in, flip, kick off the wall (belly still in the air), exhaling from my nose, twist over, breath, swim?! I think?! Here is a video of what I "TRY" and duplicate. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7553857639924735654&ei=NuDxSczHI6HK-AHr36HMDQ&q=Proper+flip+turn&hl=en&emb=1 |
| 2009-04-24 10:56 AM in reply to: #2107904 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! TrevorC - 2009-04-24 11:52 AM Hey Tony, if in your race report if I do read something like this "Pushed so hard , that I threw up in the bushes after the run", I will be disappointed. You promised!! you mean if you don't see that you will be disappointed? I did say my goal was to be right below that point. I do have a serious problem pushing myself in races. I end up having way too much left in the tank at races, always very worried that I am not going to be able to finish for some reason, so I save up reserves that I never need. |
| 2009-04-24 10:57 AM in reply to: #2107904 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! TrevorC - 2009-04-24 8:52 AM Hey Tony, if in your race report if I do read something like this "Pushed so hard , that I threw up in the bushes after the run", I will be disappointed. You promised!! Trevor- DO READ, or DON'T READ? I would be bummed if it didn't read this!? This means he didn't push hard enough?!
To all RACING--- I AM |
| 2009-04-24 10:57 AM in reply to: #2107904 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! |
| 2009-04-24 10:57 AM in reply to: #2107904 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! |
| 2009-04-24 11:02 AM in reply to: #2107927 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! 3 posts steve? |
| 2009-04-24 11:05 AM in reply to: #2107926 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! WTF?!?! SORRY! |
| 2009-04-24 11:10 AM in reply to: #2107949 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! swbkrun - 2009-04-24 12:05 PM WTF?!?! SORRY! I know it's friday and you are trying to pad your post count  I am off to the pool, then sneakin out a bit early today weather is supposed to be wonderful outside (no windows anywhere in my office) So will get out with the kids in the front yard, practice some transitions and relax after that. |
| 2009-04-24 11:24 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Sorry I meant DO NOT of course. I want his wife to take a pic of him hanging over on the side by the trees chuckin' Do it Tony, do it for us!! |
| 2009-04-24 11:26 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! My fit update. Fitter called me back yesterday evening and asked me to come back in because he wanted to try something else to get my stack # down. Went back in at 1030 this morning and he didnt make it. Not sure why yet but hopefully he is ok and nuthing bad happeend to him. I pm'd a BT bike guru abt this last night. His reply indicated that there was a "HUGE disparity" in my numbers and too that he roughly size and lots of bikes fit him. Most importantly he indicated that a good FIST fitter should be able to look at my Fit Worksheet and with my inseam should be able to tell if the stack and reach numbers are in the ballpark. He isnt a FIST fitter. So SWBKRUN freinds.... any of you got a FIST fitter that might talk to me for a few minutes. I know most of us are newbies but I had to ask. Hey.... good news is I get to use these breathing techniques that I learned way back in our first prenancy class to remain calm... |
| 2009-04-24 11:34 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Champion 6973 marietta | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! |
| 2009-04-24 11:39 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Holy Carp. I go away for a day day and it takes me an hour to catch up on all the posts and then can't remember half of what I read. Is there a full moon today? 1) Suzy: great pictures. I think they all are grea and you don't look like your going to pass out which is usually how i look after I run a mile or so. I have a very good photogenic quality for the radio. Oh I was just wondering are you tall enough to ride the adult rides 2) Jeremy: If you want water up your nose just breath in when you flifp turn. Really though I think Steve is about right on the turns. Go into your dive to turn, once you start to push off the wall exhale through your nose until you are back into your noraml stroke pattern. I don't use the flip turn very much but don't have a problem with it when I do. 3)Trevor: I find it very hard to believe that you are ever at a loss for words OK Good Luck to every one racing this weekend and everyone have a great weekedn even if your not racing. Only about 10 days until I head to Cuba for a vacation. I'm not sure what I need a vacation from but my wife needs one for sure.
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| 2009-04-24 11:40 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Padding the stats. If Steve can do it so can I. |
| 2009-04-24 11:42 AM in reply to: #2108027 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! fattyfatfat - 2009-04-24 10:34 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sq-HYGfnIo  Who has monitors like that in their office anymore?? Its all flat screens now. |
| 2009-04-24 11:45 AM in reply to: #2108042 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Redknight - 2009-04-24 10:39 AM Holy carp is right!!! Let's cut out early today and go fishing!Holy Carp. I go away for a day day and it takes me an hour to catch up on all the posts and then can't remember half of what I read. Is there a full moon today? 1) Suzy: great pictures. I think they all are grea and you don't look like your going to pass out which is usually how i look after I run a mile or so. I have a very good photogenic quality for the radio. Oh I was just wondering are you tall enough to ride the adult rides 2) Jeremy: If you want water up your nose just breath in when you flifp turn. Really though I think Steve is about right on the turns. Go into your dive to turn, once you start to push off the wall exhale through your nose until you are back into your noraml stroke pattern. I don't use the flip turn very much but don't have a problem with it when I do. 3)Trevor: I find it very hard to believe that you are ever at a loss for words OK Good Luck to every one racing this weekend and everyone have a great weekedn even if your not racing. Only about 10 days until I head to Cuba for a vacation. I'm not sure what I need a vacation from but my wife needs one for sure.
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| 2009-04-24 12:31 PM in reply to: #2108005 |
Pro 4100 Wherever the trail takes me, WA. | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! fattyfatfat - 2009-04-24 9:26 AM My fit update. Fitter called me back yesterday evening and asked me to come back in because he wanted to try something else to get my stack # down. Went back in at 1030 this morning and he didnt make it. Not sure why yet but hopefully he is ok and nuthing bad happeend to him. I pm'd a BT bike guru abt this last night. His reply indicated that there was a "HUGE disparity" in my numbers and too that he roughly size and lots of bikes fit him. Most importantly he indicated that a good FIST fitter should be able to look at my Fit Worksheet and with my inseam should be able to tell if the stack and reach numbers are in the ballpark. He isnt a FIST fitter. So SWBKRUN freinds.... any of you got a FIST fitter that might talk to me for a few minutes. I know most of us are newbies but I had to ask. Hey.... good news is I get to use these breathing techniques that I learned way back in our first prenancy class to remain calm... I am off to the shop today that fixed me on my bike. I will get his email address, and PM you later... |
| 2009-04-24 1:19 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Veteran 458 Greensburg, PA | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! I think cutting out of work early today is a great idea! It is beautiful here! I think I will go and enjoy a nice long run! (Long being a relative term for me!) Have a great weekend everybody. Enjoy the training! Karen |
| 2009-04-24 1:57 PM in reply to: #2108042 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Redknight - 2009-04-24 11:39 AM Holy Carp. I go away for a day day and it takes me an hour to catch up on all the posts and then can't remember half of what I read. Is there a full moon today? 1) Suzy: great pictures. I think they all are grea and you don't look like your going to pass out which is usually how i look after I run a mile or so. I have a very good photogenic quality for the radio. Oh I was just wondering are you tall enough to ride the adult rides 2) Jeremy: If you want water up your nose just breath in when you flifp turn. Really though I think Steve is about right on the turns. Go into your dive to turn, once you start to push off the wall exhale through your nose until you are back into your noraml stroke pattern. I don't use the flip turn very much but don't have a problem with it when I do. 3)Trevor: I find it very hard to believe that you are ever at a loss for words OK Good Luck to every one racing this weekend and everyone have a great weekedn even if your not racing. Only about 10 days until I head to Cuba for a vacation. I'm not sure what I need a vacation from but my wife needs one for sure.
As long as I agree to sit on my husband's lap I can get on the rides, sometimes for free! Only a guy going to Cuba would pull a short joke on a nearly 46 year old woman! Tomorrows my birthday....presents accepted. Suzy |
| 2009-04-24 2:03 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
| Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Sorry I've been MIA. Kids are tracked out (our school follows a year round schedule). I have my hands full with the 3 of them 24/7 and getting my workouts in. It's going to take a few days to get caught up with everyone! I love the activity & pace of this group. GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE RACING THIS WEEKEND! HAVE A GREAT TIME! |
| 2009-04-24 2:07 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 3072 san francisco | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Aw, Suzy! I knew you and I could've been twins! But you'd be the faster twin. My bday is tomorrow too! So HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO US!!! Good luck to everyone racing this weekend. It's hard for me to keep up with all of these posts! Matt, you made me laugh. You know what you wrote, so I'll leave that there. Update on the sighting, I'm trying it in the pool every fourth length, every 4 or 5 strokes and it is getting easier to do. Thanks for the suggestions, we'll see if it translates to open water next time. |
| 2009-04-24 2:58 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 1952 Guelph, Ontario | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Happy Brthday to you Happy Brthday to you Happy Brthday to you Happy birthday to Suzy and Kim HB2U. Suzy it always Ok to make fun of the younger generation. So long as it's done with love |
| 2009-04-24 3:56 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 4108 Calgary,AB,Canada | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-Closed! TIME TO TRAIN! Guess who is off to buy his 1st wetsuit after work??? Should be a humbling experience. But out tri store has then 20% off today so I figured i might as well jump in feet first. Edited by TrevorC 2009-04-24 3:57 PM |
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