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2012-02-18 2:02 AM
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Shoulder issues seem to be over for me, gotta love drugs Laughing

Got in a nice 70 mile trainer ride, but need to start beefing the long stuff up, we are starting to run out of weeks here. Surprised

Have a great training weekend everyone!



2012-02-18 7:51 PM
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13 weeks from right now, Mike Reilly will be calling out those famous words "You are an Ironman"
2012-02-20 10:56 AM
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Hello All,

long time no hear from my side.

@KSH: sorry for that - maybe its fortune - don´t see it negative.

In Europe the winter is freezing cold, but luckily i had the last 2 weeks a training camp on the Canarian islands - some 1,2k km on the bike and also lots of swimming and biking.

now i can´t wait for IM Texas - hell ya !

one question for the ones who know the Woodlands area or started last year - how heavy are the winds ? - is it possible to ride with a disc wheel - i am planning to use a xentis mark 1 tt on the fromt wheel and a disc (hed jet disc) - recommandable or too windy for that ?

@ gear ratio: what is most suitable for tx - 53/39 or 54/42 ?

greetings from cold cold Vienna !
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2012-02-21 10:43 AM
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I rode a disc last year with no problem. But, I ride one in all conditions.

Just got this in an email ---> looks like if you wear a wettie you have to wait 10 min. extra

Athlete Check-in is Wednesday, May 16 and Thursday, May 17 from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. ONLY.
• There will be NO SWIMMING ALLOWED in Lake Woodlands prior to the event, with the exception of the allotted practice swim from 8 to 10 a.m. on Friday, May 18.
• The swim will most likely be WETSUIT OPTIONAL. If the water temperature is greater than 76.1 F/24.5 C, athletes may choose to wear a wetsuit but will not be eligible for awards or entry slots. These athletes will wait on land and start 10 minutes after the mass start has begun. ALL Time Cut offs will remain the same; no adjustments will be made.
• Be prepared for temperatures that can range from 66 to 100 F. The average temperature for May is around 85 F.

2012-02-21 11:00 AM
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Saw the e-mail from Scott Langen about changes to the start if water temps fall into the wet suit optional range. He says wet suit wearers will wait on land and start 10-minutes after the mass start.

I wore a wet suit last year but have been thinking about going without this year, since I've been doing a lot more swimming than in years past. If I don't wear the wet suit, I'd rather have everyone start together than have a bunch of wet suit wearing fish catch and swim over the top of me after 45-minutes or an hour in the water. Also, based on last year, it took a lot more than 10-minutes to get everyone in the water. Maybe they're going to make changes to the water entry too.

This winter has been so warm that optional wet suits may turn into a non-issue. It'll be interesting to see what the temps measure for the CB&I tri and how they compare with last year.

On things for sure, the "optional wet suit" rule is so goofy that there's always going to be people hacked off by it. It's a no-win situation the way it's set up right now. I think the best thing for WTC would be for them to drop their own version of the rule and just go by USAT rules.

 

2012-02-21 11:24 AM
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I purchased a Torque swimskin for this years race .. didnt wear a wetsuit or swimskin last year so thought I would at least try the swimskin thing this year...

My only concern with the e-mail is this statement "We have some course changes coming this year. We are awaiting final approval from local authorities – expect updated course information (including new maps) to come soon. Get ready for an amazing weekend! I look forward to seeing you at the starting line."

Changes makes it sound like we are going to see more changes than just where the finish line is this year. Still hoping the dont change the bike course!



2012-02-21 11:27 AM
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haven´t got this mail, but it sounds good - i am not the best swimmer, but i do not consider the wetsuit option as i am going for kona qualification.

i hope that this 10min rule will make it possible for non wet suit swimmers to reduce the "waiting time" in the water (heard that some people were waiting 15min last year for the start) and make it sure, that everybody is in the water on time.

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thanks for the disc info - i think i will order the hed jet disc as an additional motivation
2012-02-21 1:32 PM
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I looked back at last year's numbers, and I think that last year 741 people swam with wet suit (37%) and 1257 swam without (63%).

2012-02-21 3:24 PM
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Greg, have you heard anything about a bike course change from people in the area?  I just can not see how they would get 112 from roads south of 105 without causing more/different problems. 
2012-02-21 6:32 PM
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g_shotts - 2012-02-21 2:32 PM

I looked back at last year's numbers, and I think that last year 741 people swam with wet suit (37%) and 1257 swam without (63%).

 

Wow, I am shocked it is that high. Surprised

2012-02-21 7:57 PM
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For those familiar with the Woodlands area, I am guessing it could be a bit crazy the day and night before the race. Just announced Dave Mattews Band will be starting their 2012 tour on the 18th Friday night at Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion. I have seen him a bunch and it is a traveling circus when he comes to town, not quite Jimmy Buffett but loyal following for sure.

The air quality in the morning may not be the best Wink



2012-02-21 9:09 PM
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Shermbelle - 2012-02-21 7:57 PM

For those familiar with the Woodlands area, I am guessing it could be a bit crazy the day and night before the race. Just announced Dave Mattews Band will be starting their 2012 tour on the 18th Friday night at Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion. I have seen him a bunch and it is a traveling circus when he comes to town, not quite Jimmy Buffett but loyal following for sure.

The air quality in the morning may not be the best Wink

That will be interesting!
2012-02-22 1:29 AM
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TriPatrick - 2012-02-21 3:24 PM

Greg, have you heard anything about a bike course change from people in the area?  I just can not see how they would get 112 from roads south of 105 without causing more/different problems. 


as i am not familiar with the woodlands region, what would this change mean for the bike course - more elevation - persónally i think, that 3 months before a race there should be no changes to the courses anymore.

The profile of the courses is a main reason for many athletes to particpate a race.
2012-02-22 4:11 AM
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snowball - 2012-02-22 1:29 AM
TriPatrick - 2012-02-21 3:24 PMGreg, have you heard anything about a bike course change from people in the area?  I just can not see how they would get 112 from roads south of 105 without causing more/different problems. 
as i am not familiar with the woodlands region, what would this change mean for the bike course - more elevation - persónally i think, that 3 months before a race there should be no changes to the courses anymore.The profile of the courses is a main reason for many athletes to particpate a race.
It would be flatter. I am like you 3 months out I do not see anything drastic happening.
2012-02-22 4:34 AM
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Shermbelle - 2012-02-21 7:57 PM

For those familiar with the Woodlands area, I am guessing it could be a bit crazy the day and night before the race. Just announced Dave Mattews Band will be starting their 2012 tour on the 18th Friday night at Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion. I have seen him a bunch and it is a traveling circus when he comes to town, not quite Jimmy Buffett but loyal following for sure.

The air quality in the morning may not be the best Wink

That will be interesting!
Just think of all the people who may be expecting to listen from town green park, but t1/2 will be set up. I hope concert goers do not stay at my hotel.
2012-02-22 8:27 AM
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Upon doing the math, it looks like a wetsuit would have to save you 15sec/100yds if you are going to make up the 10 min deficit. I was really looking forward to the wetsuit since I am not the strongest swimmer but will definitely be reconsidering that one...


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snowball - 2012-02-22 1:29 AM
TriPatrick - 2012-02-21 3:24 PM Greg, have you heard anything about a bike course change from people in the area?  I just can not see how they would get 112 from roads south of 105 without causing more/different problems. 
as i am not familiar with the woodlands region, what would this change mean for the bike course - more elevation - persónally i think, that 3 months before a race there should be no changes to the courses anymore. The profile of the courses is a main reason for many athletes to particpate a race.

I would look for them to change where you cross over the busy roads. Expect to still head out through the national forest,etc. Elevation profile won't change much. If anything it will be flatter the first half of the ride.

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TriPatrick - 2012-02-21 3:24 PM Greg, have you heard anything about a bike course change from people in the area?  I just can not see how they would get 112 from roads south of 105 without causing more/different problems. 
as i am not familiar with the woodlands region, what would this change mean for the bike course - more elevation - persónally i think, that 3 months before a race there should be no changes to the courses anymore. The profile of the courses is a main reason for many athletes to particpate a race.

I would look for them to change where you cross over the busy roads. Expect to still head out through the national forest,etc. Elevation profile won't change much. If anything it will be flatter the first half of the ride.

Thanks for the Info TJ ...

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2012-02-22 2:10 PM
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Regarding the wetsuit rule; does it mean that wetsuit wearers start 10 min later with no adjustment to their race time ( effectively a penalty), or will their 'gun time' accurately be the time taken to cover the 140.6 distance?
2012-02-22 3:34 PM
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pvollands - 2012-02-22 2:10 PM Regarding the wetsuit rule; does it mean that wetsuit wearers start 10 min later with no adjustment to their race time ( effectively a penalty), or will their 'gun time' accurately be the time taken to cover the 140.6 distance?

I wondered the same thing.  I sent an email to [email protected] and will update when I have an answer.

2012-02-22 3:38 PM
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Think of it like a race with wave starts.  There will be two waves separated by 10 minutes.  Everyone's chip time will be the actual time it took to traverse 140.6 miles.  The only "penalty" would be for the folks flirting with the 17 hour cutoff time as they will only have 16:50 to cover the distance if they chose to wear a wetsuit.

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GMAN 19030 - 2012-02-22 3:38 PM Think of it like a race with wave starts.  There will be two waves separated by 10 minutes.  Everyone's chip time will be the actual time it took to traverse 140.6 miles.  The only "penalty" would be for the folks flirting with the 17 hour cutoff time as they will only have 16:50 to cover the distance if they chose to wear a wetsuit.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I think it might just be a 10 minute penalty of sorts. Of course since a wetsuit gives most people more than a 10 minute advantage, it's more of an equalizer. I'm sure the folks at WTC will clarify though.

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So glad to have made it to a recovery week of my plan.  Feeling like my training is on track except for my run.  Swimming the distance now ok - by far not a speed deamon, have four 90 mile plus rides under my belt - in decent times, but the running is lacking, I am only at the 8 mile long run mark - darn injuries.  Hoping to get the running on track soon otherwise it is going to be a long 18.2 mile walk..... Foot in mouth  Wish everyone good luck with their training.  See you soon.

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tjfry - 2012-02-22 4:10 PM

GMAN 19030 - 2012-02-22 3:38 PM Think of it like a race with wave starts.  There will be two waves separated by 10 minutes.  Everyone's chip time will be the actual time it took to traverse 140.6 miles.  The only "penalty" would be for the folks flirting with the 17 hour cutoff time as they will only have 16:50 to cover the distance if they chose to wear a wetsuit.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I think it might just be a 10 minute penalty of sorts. Of course since a wetsuit gives most people more than a 10 minute advantage, it's more of an equalizer. I'm sure the folks at WTC will clarify though.

TJ - Already been clarified via emails to WTC.

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Thanks for the clarification - post more if you get anything else from WTC on the issue. I like the comfort factor of swimming in the wetsuit, however the 10 min delay will make for a swim with more contact having to pass the slower swimmers. I swam a 1.15 swim in Arizona with the wetsuit and am looking for 5% improvements in my IMTX race. Probably best to train harder without the wetsuit in mind...
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