kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 - CLOSED (Page 25)

Good luck this weekend, Carrie!  Enjoy the experience!

I know I can get to 160.  If I clean up my weekend eating I can get to 155.  Some fasted training may be in order at that point too.

I hadn't considered that, but it's a great idea. We have the San Francisco marathon here in July that I'm sure I could train for, or the San Diego Rock and Roll marathon is the same weekend I'm down in San Diego for a wedding. Now the wheels are turning...

I only carry water on any ride equal to or less than 2 hours, if i go 3-4, then i will add a bottle of EFS or carry a GU.

In my limited experience, most Triathletes over nutrition themselves based on myth and mis-information.  And lord knows my body has plenty of stored up fuel, lol!!!!

Scott, I know you can get there.  Since we had this long conversation with Bryan this summer about training on an empty stomach, I've maintained the 155-157 weight since July-ish.  It definitely works.  And your volume is way more than mine.  I have to imagine we are roughly the same height (5' 9")

can someone fill me in on training on an empty stomach?  i feel like i have to eat before a workout (30 min) and then within 30 min after.  like today, i did a log run (80 min)- 40 min before the run  i had an english muffin with peanut butter and some chicken and rice.  40 mins into my run i felt drained so i took a gu and felt better.   should i not eat before my workout?

scott- what was your weight when you started tris?

Paging Bryan on this one (then I'll weigh in with my thoughts).

I was 220+ when I started training for my first sprint.  Probably mid 190s when I raced.  I remember considering gaining 5 lbs so that I could race clyde.  Seems dumb now.

Fasted cardio.  The idea is that upon waking you are glycogen depleted.  Training in this state means you draw your energy from fat stores instead of glycogen stores.  It also goes to the idea of training low and racing high.  There are also several studies on the subject where if you consistantly train in a glycogen depleted state your body becomes more efficient in utilizing the carbs you do put in your body.  This has obvious benefits come race day.  It's an idea that is used by several serious athletes I know in both the tri realm and the bodybuilding realm.  I've done it and seen results.  I just need to get past the first few weeks where the hunger upon waking kinda gets to you.

Interesting.  Any reading you can suggest for more info on this?

This is a big Bob Seebohar concept.  you can check out his blog : http://www.fuel4mance.com/

Morning everyone!  Its warmer here this morning. Heading out for a long run this morning and a swim at some point today.  I have a pro bono trial starting next week so life should get interesting time management- wise.

Also I have a question for everyone -- I'm a race director for a local 1/4 Marathon (6.55 Mile Race).  I'm trying to figure out what we should do for awards this year.  In the past we've done embroidered fleece blankets but I think its time to move onto something new.  Any ideas? 

Last thing this morning -- excellent New York Times article about loosing weight and how its much more complicated than calories in calories out.

Thoughts?

i have not seen 160 lbs since freshman year of college, lol!!! 

would the hunger upon waking also be set up by what was eaten the night before and how late you ate??

I find when i used to eat a lot of carbs for dinner, or shortly before bed i would wake up famished, but when i cut out most carbs and making sure i was up at least an hour hour and half before bed, i do not wake up hungry at all, in fact i don't wanna eat for a while.

I do all my training fasted in the am, which is probably 70% of my workouts, 95% of my biking is done in a fasted state. Obvious exclusions are wednesday night races or after work rides.

 ... get "bad request" when i cut and paste the link, is that like Bad Teacher or Bad Luitenant or something???

Carrie- Good luck this weekend at Goofy!! Enjoy the experience and report back! I am so interested to hear about it!

Kally - when is the 1/4 marathon? Do you not want to given traditional medals?

I received an email this morning from Vineman, I'm officially registered for the 140.6.  I'm very excited, but feel a little sick at the same time!

I totally believe that the reason I lost 8ish pounds before Wisconsin this year, was the fasted workouts that I started doing halfway through my plan.  I never felt like it had a negative impact on my training, I felt the same or slightly better as the weight started coming off.

Kelly - how about etched pint glasses.  Etch the race name/logo and the award - 1st overall, etc.  They gave out some pint glasses at age group nationals (not as an award, but to everyone) and those are my favorite race swag item.  (Most runners drink beer.  At least the ones I know.)

Hey all hope everyone is doing great and having good training!!

I have a question I am curious about everyones occupation, and how we find so much time to talk on here, train, and be family people.

I am a Phyiscal Education teacher at a Deaf school in NY.

Have 2 kids (4 1/2 & 2)

i have not seen 160 since freshman year of high school.

honestly i am hooked on sugar.  i love eating and eating sugar (did i mention i love sugar).  i am not looking to lose a lot of weight but a few pounds wouldn't hurt.  i will try training in a fasted state to see if it helps me improve my training/racing.  i guess the reason i feel like i have a drop in energy about 40 mins into run is because i have stuffed carbs down my throat before i started.  

question- when you start, do you just train through that low energy feeling for as long as you can?