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I tend to agree that the efforts to thwart him by the power brokers are backfiring horribly.  His message is that he's going to fight the establishment and it's hard to say he's lying when the entire establishment (on both sides) is doing everything they can to fight against him in the primary.  Personally I don't think they're fighting because they think he's going to lose, they're more concerned that he's going to win and completely destroy their power.

This one made me laugh.

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Imagine that, something we agree on. 

It makes me scratch my head how Mittens can go after Trump with such anmonisity but was so passive with candidate Obama? Could he have been concerned about being labeled a racist?

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Originally posted by crusevegas

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by chirunner134 I hate to say this but I am almost routing for Trump to win the primaries. All these anti trump meetings by the rich and powerful and speeches against him are think. "Go Trump Go". I am curious to see what would happen if Trump and Sanders should won but still did not get the nomination.

I tend to agree that the efforts to thwart him by the power brokers are backfiring horribly.  His message is that he's going to fight the establishment and it's hard to say he's lying when the entire establishment (on both sides) is doing everything they can to fight against him in the primary.  Personally I don't think they're fighting because they think he's going to lose, they're more concerned that he's going to win and completely destroy their power.

If Mitt Romney had worked as hard at becoming president as he's working to prevent Trump from becoming president he might be president.

Imagine that, something we agree on. 

It makes me scratch my head how Mittens can go after Trump with such anmonisity but was so passive with candidate Obama? Could he have been concerned about being labeled a racist?

We also agree on the merits of eating smoked meat, as I recall. So there's also that. I really don't think it's the race thing. When you're running for president, the conventional wisdom is, generally, that you're going to have to woo some of your opponents over to your side, so you can't call your opponent a disgusting incompetent moron lest you alienate the fence-sitters and drive them over to your opponent's camp. Trump has flipped that convention on its head. In the past, both candidates has a certain respect for the office of POTUS and everyone wanted to appear "presidential", so the kind of thing we're seeing in this campaign on the GOP side is pretty much uncharted territory in a Presidential race. Raise your hand if you ever thought you'd hear candidates for POTUS arguing about the size of their junk in a nationally televised debate.

I'm curious how that will play out with Hillary.  Her junk quite possibly may be larger.  haha

With Romney, I'm pretty sure he was overly confident that he had it in the bag.  He basically coasted the last month and likely spent all his time planning the furniture layout in the White House.

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Originally posted by crusevegas

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by chirunner134 I hate to say this but I am almost routing for Trump to win the primaries. All these anti trump meetings by the rich and powerful and speeches against him are think. "Go Trump Go". I am curious to see what would happen if Trump and Sanders should won but still did not get the nomination.

I tend to agree that the efforts to thwart him by the power brokers are backfiring horribly.  His message is that he's going to fight the establishment and it's hard to say he's lying when the entire establishment (on both sides) is doing everything they can to fight against him in the primary.  Personally I don't think they're fighting because they think he's going to lose, they're more concerned that he's going to win and completely destroy their power.

If Mitt Romney had worked as hard at becoming president as he's working to prevent Trump from becoming president he might be president.

Imagine that, something we agree on. 

It makes me scratch my head how Mittens can go after Trump with such anmonisity but was so passive with candidate Obama? Could he have been concerned about being labeled a racist?

We also agree on the merits of eating smoked meat, as I recall. So there's also that. I really don't think it's the race thing. When you're running for president, the conventional wisdom is, generally, that you're going to have to woo some of your opponents over to your side, so you can't call your opponent a disgusting incompetent moron lest you alienate the fence-sitters and drive them over to your opponent's camp. Trump has flipped that convention on its head. In the past, both candidates has a certain respect for the office of POTUS and everyone wanted to appear "presidential", so the kind of thing we're seeing in this campaign on the GOP side is pretty much uncharted territory in a Presidential race. Raise your hand if you ever thought you'd hear candidates for POTUS arguing about the size of their junk in a nationally televised debate.

Which sadly I have none in the freeze at this time.

I'm sure there is more we agree on than disagree on but what fun is that to discuss? Plus you learn very little from those you agree with. 

I remember in the one debate where Obama made fun of Mitt's comment about Russia, something about the 1980's wanting their policy back or something and Mittens sat there like a child who just got schooled. Obviously one was right and one was wrong about that exchange but the one who was got put in his place. 

As far as the outrage about Trump making a passing remark about his junk being ok or no problem or whatever he said, let me say this about that. Lil Marco, made some statement about Trumps small hands and alluded to his penis size and it was repeated time and time again by most media outlets, everyone thought it was hilarious, then when Trump retorted, everyone was shocked and appalled,,,,,,,, give me a break!  

Can we blame the politicians/candidates or ourselves, our collective selves for this type of dialogue, Trump knows how to market and get air time, he knows what the media will cover, the media knows what will get ratings, ratings are based on giving the consumer what they want, the media wants higher ratings. 

I've got a bunch of friends who are/were huge Carson supporters and most of them switched over to Cruz.  I'm curious if this will have any effect on them.

Originally posted by jmk-brooklyn I heard that he started the news conference last week, but he spoke so slowly that he only got to the part about the Trump endorsement this morning.

buhahaha

Or, they really don't like Cruz.  lol

Hey, gang!  The best TRUMP conversation is taking place on the HILLARY thread....right now.  Come on........

Well, you're the one that brought it over there.  lol

Anyways, to get the conversation back over here.  You seem to be claiming that all the violence at the Trump rally's are caused by Trump supporters.  How do you explain the multiple arrests of protester thugs including the one who rushed the stage at Trump today?  Perhaps the Trump supporters threw him on the stage?

Again, I didn't do complete research, but I understood it that someone threw/broke a bottle.  No one was arrested and Secret Service (fittingly abbreviated SS) allowed Trump to continue.  THAT don't happen if there's a credible threat.   Seriously-I'm sure there is some rancor at ALL the events, Red and Blue, but the Donald's have so far been the most outward displays of violence.  And that trend has been present for several months.  And, BTW, don't think I missed your 'thug' reference.  lol

I stand corrected. Someone was arrested for throwing the bottle and trying to breach a security barrier.

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...I disavow this type of behavior

This is a little different than what you hear in the media.

What really happened at the Chicago rally - My Firsthand Account

It shows a first hand view of bigotry in America.

What's almost comical is who the guy that rushed the stage and assaulted somebody on the way out was.

...............ok, I disavow THAT, too.