kenj triathletes in training - IM and HIM focused - Closed (Page 28)

Interesting plan - though there are no 17+ mile runs, the weekly mileage is higher than Hidgon in the peak weeks due to an extra day of running 5 vs. 4 days. Something to think about!

Edited by robingray_260 2013-06-13 9:59 PM

I have an Oly tomorrow...however, the water quality is in question (yikes!), so they are waiting on one more test result. If it comes back normal, we swim, if not, it's a duathlon. Is it Jaime that is in the same situation? I've never done a duathlon before, so I am also wondering how that will go. Definite change of mindset, I guess.

I've had a fairly successful week of training, my first in 3 weeks that I'm back on schedule. I was really tired during Masters swims this week, although this morning's swim felt a little better. I also shortened my bike ride yesterday--was supposed to do 90 minutes with 8 x 4 minute intervals at zone 4. I did the intervals but cut the ride to 1 hour 16 minutes. I was feeling fatigued and still had to go swim after, so I think it was a good decision. Have an hour and 15 minute run after work today (in the HEAT--it will probably still be 95 degrees!), the Oly tomorrow, and a 4 hour bike/45 run brick Sunday. I will be taking it SLOW for that long ride and run.

Happy Friday everyone!

My new motto:

IF YOU CAN'T DO A TRI, TRY A DU!

Did a run-bike-run miniworkout this morning and that second run was pretty brutal...

Jaime

That is good feedback on the Hanson plan.  I have a friend who is preparing for her first marathon this fall and we were discussing various plans and philosophies on training for the marathon.  She talked about the Hanson plan but decided against it as for her first she thought that having the 20 + mile runs on some of the other plans would help with the mental side of the training.  

Just relaxing mostly. I kind of lost my motivation a little bit (mainly because I'm not training for much of anything until the fall), but that's a good thing because then I can focus on "base building" again and include weekly hill intervals/speed intervals. It's a little bit tricky to really do anything because I'm doing Tues and Thurs night rides, and it's kind of hard to wake up at 5am on Wednesdays and Fridays (since I get home at 9:30-10 pm the night before). So I'm trying to work out a better "set" schedule this weekend. I have a question related to that, but I'll make a new post.

Tomorrow I'm heading out to Lee Canyon (an hour from where I live), where it's about 70-80 degrees or colder compared to 110 degrees that we've been getting these days. It's a tough climb...very tough. :D

Sunday, there's a new thing that BLV is doing - more recreational rides. Short rides with a game afterwards, C rides, geared towards recovery and beginners. Short because after 9am, it gets pretty hot. Best to finish a ride before 10am or you'll roast! So, this Sunday is Bike and Bocce. Should be fun!!

Wishing good luck to the racers out there this weekend...sorry to hear that things turned into a Du. I never have done a Du, so I'm not good at giving advice, but I do know is to pace yourself for the first run, or your legs will be wasted for the second.

Have a great race Becky! I hope you get to swim!

This is the Hanson's major difference in running philosophy. A lot of the beginner (and even intermediate) running plans really only train you for the long 20 mile run -- that's all people think about...like worrying about the wedding instead of the marriage.Just like many people feel they have to do a marathon before doing an Ironman and it's really apples and oranges. I had friends training for MCM following a more traditional plan and they'd do a 20-22 mile long run and be toast the rest of the day and the following day. Whereas with the Hanson plan - at the peak you run 16, then run 5-7 the next day - very slow- then speed work the next day - then finally a rest. You've earned that rest day! More importantly you're getting feeling of running on fatigued legs - which is what's going to happen no matter what plan you follow. Easy run this am - my garmin died just as I was starting - it was kind of nice running information free!!Good luck to everyone racing & training.

Off in the woods camping this weekend. I have my bike and am about to head out for a long ride. Internet is sketchy though so may not check in again until tomorrow.Have a great weekend and Happy Fathers Day to the Dads amongst us!!!

Have fun camping Ken!

Duathlons - i've done a few, but sprints, and I'll do a bunch more. the only thing I do differently than a tri is get in a real warmup (20 min+ with some fast short intervals). i dont do too much warming up before a tri. thats what the swim leg is for :-) have good races!

Happy Father's Day to any Dad's here!

PR'd my Lee Canyon ride by 20 minutes. That's a lot! :-) I think I can improve on it because I had a bit of side stitches and felt like I was breathing a little bit too hard. I suspect that it's from the thinner air. So I'm aiming to do this ride at least 3 to 5 times this Summer. :D

Decided to ditch the super easy ride tomorrow, and just put in easy ride in the trainer, way easier than getting up at 6am!! Then focus on really cleaning up my bearded dragon tank. I hadn't realize that I have been doing a few set up wrong, so I'm aiming to make it very ideal vs. "just okay". That'll take pretty much the day to do. Exciting times!

Working on selling my Cosmic Carbones (anyone interested?) in order to fund for a Garmin 500. :-)

Hope anyone had a good race today/tomorrow!

Happy Father's Day to any Dad's here!

PR'd my Lee Canyon ride by 20 minutes. That's a lot! :-) I think I can improve on it because I had a bit of side stitches and felt like I was breathing a little bit too hard. I suspect that it's from the thinner air. So I'm aiming to do this ride at least 3 to 5 times this Summer. :D

Decided to ditch the super easy ride tomorrow, and just put in easy ride in the trainer, way easier than getting up at 4:30am!! Then focus on really cleaning up my bearded dragon tank. I hadn't realize that I have been doing a few set up wrong, so I'm aiming to make it very ideal vs. "just okay". That'll take pretty much the day to do. Exciting times!

Working on selling my Cosmic Carbones (anyone interested?) in order to fund for a Garmin 500. :-)

Hope anyone had a good race today/tomorrow!

Edited by CyborgQueen 2013-06-16 12:09 AM

Congratulations... Can you post a picture of the wheels?

Nice job DJ!!! congrats!

can you put up some info and pics of the wheels? I can check to see if my wife would like them.

Went camping as well this weekend - apparently a guy was mauled by a bear in our campground, didn't hear about it til we got back. He was throwing meat at the bear!

First open water swim today - the lake was in the low 70's - perfect temp! We have had fantastic "record breaking heat" here - today it may have broken the 80 degree barrier!

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/RaceLog/races-view-container.asp?...

Hopefully, above is the link to my race report on my first ever olympic triathlon. I had to get that in before it got lost in cyber space. The venue was at a stately manor about an hour from my house and we went down and camped overnight (but no bears though..thank goodness), which was included in the price of the entry. It was really well organized I thought, by a company I'd never heard of before but i think it's run by an ex pro triathlete. And in the same place as I'm doing my HIM in September

There were highs and lows. I panicked and thought about the race all day Saturday. And Sunday morning (race started at 8am - i was up at 5 which was quite early seeing as we were camping about 200m from the transition area! )

We swam in a river - downstream and so there was about a 20 min walk through a wood and over some sheep filled fields to get to the start - good warm up. The race was started by a guy playing the bagpipes! So, I was at the back of all the swimmers and the bagpipes started and off everyone went. No really they were so fast. I did a few strokes and they were no where in sight. I wasn't panicked in the water, I could breathe fine, the wet suit made it a little harder to move my arms than without but I just thought - they've gone, I'll never do it. And I am always very aware that by being last i am making organizers and volunteers hang around for a very long time and it makes me feel really guilty. So I headed for the bank to get out. Then the guy on the last safety boat said 'are you not doing it then?' And I explained about not being able to keep up and he said 'just give it a go, I'll stay with you ...so I did. A combination or crawl and breast stroke and he was really encouraging all the while saying there wasn't far to go and explaining how the river turned (that was off putting too - having no idea where the end was) . And we picked up an older guy on the way down who was struggling but when he did stroke he was a lot faster than me and so beat me. So, I was the last one out of the water - and they wouldn't let me run to transition - I must have been looking very peaky -and was escorted by about 3 people and walking down i slipped and ended up on my bum (no damage though), embarrassing.

It was easy to find my bike in transition - the bike was the best bit - for me. I was still slow compared to everyone else - but, according to the results I had an average speed of about 15mpg which is brill for me. It was flattish and on good roads and I was quite happy on my own tootling along.

The run wasn't so great again. I do have a bit of bladder weakness and that kicked in so although I probably could have ran more than I did it was really difficult to. I was a mess of wee and snot (from the bike section) by the end. My 10k time was 1hr 16, which is still faster than my first ever stand alone 10k last year. And yesterday, when I saw my swim time, although the swim was short (by 200m apparently) I still did an average pace of 2.45 even with breast stroke and trying to get out twice ( river was going downstream though).

I actually overtook one guy on the run!!! so I came 2nd from last! And, they had started prize giving by the time i finished and every one turned around and cheered me over the finish!!!

So, now 2 days later. I can say that I did enjoy it. I learnt a lot. I have written to the organizers see if I can defer my HIM entry to next year - I'm still not nearly fit enough, and bless them they've said it is possible but to have a think about it because you can achieve a lot in 11 weeks.

I'd better get off to the pool then.

Jennifer

Great recap Jennifer and a great race!  You pushed through and finished.  Congratulations!

Here is a little unsolicited advice:  Don't under estimate the power of positive thinking!!  You can do this, you just have to believe in yourself more!! (and train consistently! )

ETA: The link isn't working, maybe you still need to save the report and make it public?

Edited by kenj 2013-06-18 5:01 AM

Hi Ken,

I think I've made the report public now.

Many thanks for the advice - not unsolicited. I am beginning to realize that your attitude is at least as important as the consistent training. I am constantly amazed that complete strangers have more faith in my abilities than I have. I still need work on both i feel.



Best of luck to you and your increased training.

Jennifer

That link again http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp...

Great job pushing through Jennifer. One piece of advice on the wetsuit, that you may already be doing - take your time putting it on and from the bottom up, really jack it up and take all the slack you can up to the shoulders. Have someone help if you can. Feeling constricted anywhere lower than your shoulders won't be a problem. I'm not a fan of wetsuits either, but it seems to help if I put in an extra minute pulling up every nook and cranny on the way up.

Keep up the good work.

Great Job Jennifer....like others have said - never underestimate the power of positive thinking. it's great you finished and now have that experience under your belt. Just keep moving forward -- too many people don't have the time/race they want and start getting down on themselves...take what've you've learned in racing and starting applying to your workouts! Well done!!

3500 in the pool this am and heading out now for an hour run.

So I need to completely rethink my IM nutrition. Did 70 miles on the bike yesterday and 35-40 miles in started having the same queasy feeling I had at my HIM 2 weeks ago. I had planned to stop at a local store 40 miles in and every bone in my body was screaming "Drink Gatorade!" Sadly they only had Powerade (blue, red or orange...yuck!) Went with orange - put it in my aero drink and took sips every 10 minutes for the first 30 then just went on thirst. Stomach issues gone - felt great - had no issues the rest of the ride.

I've used Pertpetum for the past 2 years with no issues - but it just isn't agreeing with me lately. If I can come up with the right system, this would work out well as I'd be able to eat off the course at IMMT. Anyone else use sports drinks with other hydration/nutrition. I think it's a fine line when you use sport drinks with balancing calories and hydration.

Going for more solid food, gatorade and water for my next long ride and just keep tweaking till it feels right.

maggie