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2011-01-11 9:35 AM
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Corncub - 2011-01-11 10:31 AM

43 minutes for a mile isn't bad!  At my fastest (lifeguarding in HS/college) I could do a mile in 30 minutes (I did break 30 once or twice).  Peak IM training in 2009, I was down to 16:05 for 1000 yards, but I was swimming about 7000 yards per week.  1000 TT over Christmas was 17:00 (pretty darn good for me since I'm only getting 1.8 swims/week in).  Getting faster means swimming, swimming, swimming



*sigh* I guess I know this and just wishing for a magical fix like, say, a DVD that makes you faster just by sitting back and watching it or something.



One thing you can check out if you haven't already is "Total Immersion." A lot of people like it. My dad went to the clinic and it actually made him worse, which we didn't think was possible. Most other reviews have been good though.


2011-01-11 9:42 AM
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43 minutes for a mile isn't bad!  At my fastest (lifeguarding in HS/college) I could do a mile in 30 minutes (I did break 30 once or twice).  Peak IM training in 2009, I was down to 16:05 for 1000 yards, but I was swimming about 7000 yards per week.  1000 TT over Christmas was 17:00 (pretty darn good for me since I'm only getting 1.8 swims/week in).  Getting faster means swimming, swimming, swimming. 


Interesting. I've based my swim goal on a conversation I had with a girl on a tri-team I belong to. last year I asked her what her mile time was and she said 30-35 minutes. I learned recently that she swam competitively in college and was a fierce swimmer. So I've picked the wrong person to use as my standard. Maybe swimming a mile in 40 is a more realistic goal. Actually a realistic goal right now is just getting my butt back in the swim groove.
2011-01-11 9:43 AM
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One thing you can check out if you haven't already is "Total Immersion." A lot of people like it. My dad went to the clinic and it actually made him worse, which we didn't think was possible. Most other reviews have been good though.


HA! Too funny.
2011-01-11 10:03 AM
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By the way, a great place for swim workouts is swimplan.com 

2011-01-11 10:36 AM
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amd723 - 2011-01-11 5:16 AM I figured out how to avoid night-time snacking - it's called Angry Birds!  I've never been one to play computer games (or XBox etc), but I downloaded this game from the new mac apps store the other day and I can't quit playing  - it is addictive.  Didn't snack at all last night b/c I was playing it so much. 

I guess my next post will be asking for suggestions to kick my Angry Bird habitSurprised

Happy Tuesday,

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I loooooooooooooooooooooooove Angry Birds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     Have you tried "Cut the Rope"?



Never heard of it, is that a version of Angry Birds or a different app?
2011-01-11 10:44 AM
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amd723 - 2011-01-11 8:36 AM
Triathlynne - 2011-01-11 8:56 AM

amd723 - 2011-01-11 5:16 AM I figured out how to avoid night-time snacking - it's called Angry Birds!  I've never been one to play computer games (or XBox etc), but I downloaded this game from the new mac apps store the other day and I can't quit playing  - it is addictive.  Didn't snack at all last night b/c I was playing it so much. 

I guess my next post will be asking for suggestions to kick my Angry Bird habitSurprised

Happy Tuesday,

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I loooooooooooooooooooooooove Angry Birds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     Have you tried "Cut the Rope"?



Never heard of it, is that a version of Angry Birds or a different app?

 

I think it's #2 on most popular apps on Itunes. It's addicting also. Plus the little guy in it is cute.



2011-01-11 11:09 AM
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Corncub - 2011-01-11 9:43 AM
One thing you can check out if you haven't already is "Total Immersion." A lot of people like it. My dad went to the clinic and it actually made him worse, which we didn't think was possible. Most other reviews have been good though.


HA! Too funny.


That is funny....

Total Immersion's DVD helped me visualize the point of swimming...staying balanced and moving forward and trying to cut the amount of forward resistance as much as possible.  I also like Mr. Smooth, an Australian website of swim coaches.  They have a downloadable avatar of a swimmer using what they think is the perfect stroke.  You can view him from all directions.  Really helped.  Number one aid, however, Scott Clegg, my Masters coach. Outstanding instruction.
2011-01-11 11:56 AM
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amd723 - 2011-01-11 7:16 AM I figured out how to avoid night-time snacking - it's called Angry Birds!  I've never been one to play computer games (or XBox etc), but I downloaded this game from the new mac apps store the other day and I can't quit playing  - it is addictive.  Didn't snack at all last night b/c I was playing it so much. 

I guess my next post will be asking for suggestions to kick my Angry Bird habitSurprised

Happy Tuesday,

Ann-Marie



I too love Angry Birds.  You should also try Abduction.  Got to save the cows from aliens. 
2011-01-11 12:04 PM
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Corncub - 2011-01-11 8:31 AM I've been avoiding the pool since September. It usually only takes me two or 3 weeks to go from a quater mile swim up to a mile but I'm slow. I swim a mile in 43 minutes. I'd like to get that time down to 35 minutes this spring.  I've pretty much plateaued and need to figure out how to get faster. Lots of sprints? Drills? Lessons? I did drills last year, lots of one arm lead and head lead with a roll, kick boards, etc and they honestly didn't seem to make that much of a difference. That warm lake in Nevada sounds pretty awesome to me, I think I'd be swimming more if it was a fun adventure like that but going to my pool is a GRIND!
Sorry, complain complain...


One of the things that really helped my swimming was taking an actual swim class.  8 week session.  That way I had someone watching my form each week and giving me feedback right away.  It's hard to make improvements on your own if you aren't aware of what you may be doing wrong.  The instructor would video tape as well so you could see what he was talking about.  Very helpful.  IMO, if you've got the endurance to swim for a mile, it comes down to improving your form in order to really make a difference in speed.   
2011-01-11 12:08 PM
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Oooh, Cut the Rope and Abduction in addition to Angry Birds.  I will never snack again!
2011-01-11 12:25 PM
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Question for you swim types out there!  Since I'm only able to swim one day a week and in open water with no way to measure my distance, how should I best utilize my time out there?  This past Sunday I swam for 64 minutes, pretty much non-stop but with occasional stops to orient myself, catch my breath, etc.  At the end I did a series of 4 sprints out to the middle of the lake, slow swim back and repeat, but I have no idea what distance I traveled each sprint.  Any suggestions on how to set up my swim workout?  Should I worry about any drills/speedwork, or, as a new triathlete, just swim, swim, swim?



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IceManScott - 2011-01-11 12:09 PM
Corncub - 2011-01-11 9:43 AM
One thing you can check out if you haven't already is "Total Immersion." A lot of people like it. My dad went to the clinic and it actually made him worse, which we didn't think was possible. Most other reviews have been good though.


HA! Too funny.


That is funny....

Total Immersion's DVD helped me visualize the point of swimming...staying balanced and moving forward and trying to cut the amount of forward resistance as much as possible.  I also like Mr. Smooth, an Australian website of swim coaches.  They have a downloadable avatar of a swimmer using what they think is the perfect stroke.  You can view him from all directions.  Really helped.  Number one aid, however, Scott Clegg, my Masters coach. Outstanding instruction.


i agree with the Mr. Smooth.  It shows good motion and helped me to visualize how i should be behaving in the water. 
2011-01-11 1:45 PM
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Triathlynne - 2011-01-11 9:46 AM

I wish I had a boring old 9-5 job.   I'd love to get my workout out of the way to leave the evening free.  This getting up at 4:30am gets to me sometimes.  Although, most of my mornings are free but I always feel too tired to get out and go to the gym, or do a run... vicious circle. Forcing myself today though (With a lot of coffee)....



Some days I wish I had a 6-4pm job m-f like my hubby. But then weeks like this (I've been off since last friday and don't work till thursday 7pm) make me and training alot easier! Although I work th, f, sat, sun 7p-7a so by monday I'll just sleep all day!

P.S I just got angry birds for my new phone and love it too
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ingleshteechur - 2011-01-11 1:25 PM

Question for you swim types out there!  Since I'm only able to swim one day a week and in open water with no way to measure my distance, how should I best utilize my time out there?  This past Sunday I swam for 64 minutes, pretty much non-stop but with occasional stops to orient myself, catch my breath, etc.  At the end I did a series of 4 sprints out to the middle of the lake, slow swim back and repeat, but I have no idea what distance I traveled each sprint.  Any suggestions on how to set up my swim workout?  Should I worry about any drills/speedwork, or, as a new triathlete, just swim, swim, swim?



IMO- just swim, swim, swim
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ingleshteechur - 2011-01-11 1:25 PM

Question for you swim types out there!  Since I'm only able to swim one day a week and in open water with no way to measure my distance, how should I best utilize my time out there?  This past Sunday I swam for 64 minutes, pretty much non-stop but with occasional stops to orient myself, catch my breath, etc.  At the end I did a series of 4 sprints out to the middle of the lake, slow swim back and repeat, but I have no idea what distance I traveled each sprint.  Any suggestions on how to set up my swim workout?  Should I worry about any drills/speedwork, or, as a new triathlete, just swim, swim, swim?



IMO- just swim, swim, swim


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ingleshteechur - 2011-01-11 1:25 PM

Question for you swim types out there!  Since I'm only able to swim one day a week and in open water with no way to measure my distance, how should I best utilize my time out there?  This past Sunday I swam for 64 minutes, pretty much non-stop but with occasional stops to orient myself, catch my breath, etc.  At the end I did a series of 4 sprints out to the middle of the lake, slow swim back and repeat, but I have no idea what distance I traveled each sprint.  Any suggestions on how to set up my swim workout?  Should I worry about any drills/speedwork, or, as a new triathlete, just swim, swim, swim?



IMO- just swim, swim, swim


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Got a nice 4 mile run in with my friend today.  Ran around a lovely little lake in a big housing area.  Damn thing was frozen solid!   I am a slow runner and I feel lead legged most of the times. It takes so much effort for me to lift them.  I am planning to start running more during the week, shorter runs are fine..I really just need to get out!

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wabash - 2011-01-11 1:28 PM
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Corncub - 2011-01-11 9:43 AM
One thing you can check out if you haven't already is "Total Immersion." A lot of people like it. My dad went to the clinic and it actually made him worse, which we didn't think was possible. Most other reviews have been good though.


HA! Too funny.


That is funny....

Total Immersion's DVD helped me visualize the point of swimming...staying balanced and moving forward and trying to cut the amount of forward resistance as much as possible.  I also like Mr. Smooth, an Australian website of swim coaches.  They have a downloadable avatar of a swimmer using what they think is the perfect stroke.  You can view him from all directions.  Really helped.  Number one aid, however, Scott Clegg, my Masters coach. Outstanding instruction.


i agree with the Mr. Smooth.  It shows good motion and helped me to visualize how i should be behaving in the water. 


I was loaned the Total Immersion book and am going to read through that.  Will also check out the Mr. Smooth website.  Thanks for all the great advice.
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IceManScott - 2011-01-11 7:24 AM Swim lessons are really terrific.  Starting my 3rd year with the Masters.  I was a high school 100 yard freestyler.  The race plan was to dive in, go all out and stop after 100 yards.  Bad plan for open water triathlon.  It took a little while to get endurance but I was swimming a mile within 6 weeks.  The whole deal after that was to improve form so I can go faster with less effort.  Being hurt and unable to run and bike much for two months in early winter REALLY helped the swimming.  I added an extra session and focused on swimming tall, reaching out, following through, and using my whole forearm like a paddle and it's really coming together.  The goal is to get out of the water as fast as I can while still feeling good.  On the way!

You all in the Peoria BN Springfield Illinois area, (there seems to be about 4 or 5), maybe we can do a group ride in the hills over by Peoria sometime.  I heard there are some challenging ones.

Swam 1200 this morning...cut short because I had to shovel us out and then swim and then get to the paper to update the weather on the web site.    Ran 50 mins on the treadmill last night with strength and yoga after. SEs on the trainer tonight, high power, low cadence strength pedaling.  100% up to 110% and back down in 10 mins, two sets. Simulates grinding up serious grades. Ought to be fun!
 



Haven't even started riding yet but if you guys do get together would love to meet up at the end of the ride to meet some of you in person.  And yes we have some wonderful hills.  Some are even challenging to drive up in this winter weather
2011-01-11 7:39 PM
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amd723 - 2011-01-11 2:04 PM
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ingleshteechur - 2011-01-11 1:25 PM

Question for you swim types out there!  Since I'm only able to swim one day a week and in open water with no way to measure my distance, how should I best utilize my time out there?  This past Sunday I swam for 64 minutes, pretty much non-stop but with occasional stops to orient myself, catch my breath, etc.  At the end I did a series of 4 sprints out to the middle of the lake, slow swim back and repeat, but I have no idea what distance I traveled each sprint.  Any suggestions on how to set up my swim workout?  Should I worry about any drills/speedwork, or, as a new triathlete, just swim, swim, swim?



IMO- just swim, swim, swim


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If you're not a "data-driven" person, then just keep doing what you are doing.  Swim for time and mix things up a bit. 

If you are a "data-driven" person, you need to somehow estimate or measure distance.  For this, you have a few choices.  You can simply assume some easy-to-use number, like 2:00/100 to estimate distance.  You can also use your average race pace (assuming the race distance is correct), or you can do a couple pool swims and use that pace. 

Now if you're really "data-driven" and the lake has identifiable geological features, you can use online GPS tools to map a beach/point/cove of the lake.  Use Northing/Easting coordinates and the math is pretty simple (two subtractions, two squares, an addition, and a square root).  Or...if you have a Garmin, you can put it under a swim cap (might put it in a zip-lock too) and let it record your path and get distance that way. 
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I SWAM MY FIRST 1000 YARDS TONIGHT!!!!! Smile  - Maria



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Ree - 2011-01-11 8:33 PM
I SWAM MY FIRST 1000 YARDS TONIGHT!!!!! Smile  - Maria



Woot!!  Big accomplishment! 
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Ree - 2011-01-11 8:33 PM
I SWAM MY FIRST 1000 YARDS TONIGHT!!!!! Smile  - Maria



This is awesome!
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McFuzz - 2011-01-11 7:39 PM 

  Use Northing/Easting coordinates and the math is pretty simple (two subtractions, two squares, an addition, and a square root).  


Ummmmm ... not so simple for us poor English major types.  *Scratches my head and says huh*  :P

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Ree - 2011-01-11 8:33 PM
I SWAM MY FIRST 1000 YARDS TONIGHT!!!!! Smile  - Maria



Great Job!!!!!!
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