Rutgers Head Coach (Page 3)

Watch the tape...some of those kids tried to do just that....he went after them again.  What if he pushes them to the ground from behind because they walked away?  No!  Don't put your damn hands on me.

And your "we don't take no chit because we are tough guys" label is a bunch of hogwash.  Hell, I've taken more chit than you can shovel......who cares?  My point is that you will NOT put your hands on me in anger without a fight from me.

As for the punch from the kid "in anger"......you obviously don't get it.  It is self-defense....it has been since the beginning of time.

OMG!!!!

This is going to come as a real shock to you guys.... but different people might have a different response to certain situations than you. Nothing that coach did was in the realm of reasonable. It isn't bad coaching... it is anger and aggression and abuse. There are those that actually won't put up with that. There are those that will.

Nowhere in the realm of possibility does that extend to a teacher taking you to the principle for being bad. No where in the realm of possibility does that extend to cops doing their job, or a coach yelling at you.

There is a very real possibility, that any "reasonable" person would expect, that if you lash out in violence at somebody.... a violent response is a very real possibility. It actually happens from time to time. It actually happened to this coach. And yes... as much as some would argue otherwise... violence is most certainly an effective way to solve problems. It might not be the best way every time, but it can be very effective.

OMG!!!!

This is going to come as a real shock to you guys.... but different people might have a different response to certain situations than you. Nothing that coach did was in the realm of reasonable. It isn't bad coaching... it is anger and aggression and abuse. There are those that actually won't put up with that. There are those that will.

Nowhere in the realm of possibility does that extend to a teacher taking you to the principle for being bad. No where in the realm of possibility does that extend to cops doing their job, or a coach yelling at you.

There is a very real possibility, that any "reasonable" person would expect, that if you lash out in violence at somebody.... a violent response is a very real possibility. It actually happens from time to time. It actually happened to this coach. And yes... as much as some would argue otherwise... violence is most certainly an effective way to solve problems. It might not be the best way every time, but it can be very effective.

OMG!!!!

This is going to come as a real shock to you guys.... but different people might have a different response to certain situations than you. Nothing that coach did was in the realm of reasonable. It isn't bad coaching... it is anger and aggression and abuse. There are those that actually won't put up with that. There are those that will.

Nowhere in the realm of possibility does that extend to a teacher taking you to the principle for being bad. No where in the realm of possibility does that extend to cops doing their job, or a coach yelling at you.

There is a very real possibility, that any "reasonable" person would expect, that if you lash out in violence at somebody.... a violent response is a very real possibility. It actually happens from time to time. It actually happened to this coach. And yes... as much as some would argue otherwise... violence is most certainly an effective way to solve problems. It might not be the best way every time, but it can be very effective.

OMG!!!!

This is going to come as a real shock to you guys.... but different people might have a different response to certain situations than you. Nothing that coach did was in the realm of reasonable. It isn't bad coaching... it is anger and aggression and abuse. There are those that actually won't put up with that. There are those that will.

Nowhere in the realm of possibility does that extend to a teacher taking you to the principle for being bad. No where in the realm of possibility does that extend to cops doing their job, or a coach yelling at you.

There is a very real possibility, that any "reasonable" person would expect, that if you lash out in violence at somebody.... a violent response is a very real possibility. It actually happens from time to time. It actually happened to this coach. And yes... as much as some would argue otherwise... violence is most certainly an effective way to solve problems. It might not be the best way every time, but it can be very effective.

Rutgers is not a big time bb program.  The players on the team were prolly borderline D1 prospects, glad to have a scholarship.  Bowing up to the coach would probably cost them their spot on the team. 

Kind of a cheapshot calling the 18-20 yo players shameful imo. 

As a side note.  If reports are correct...

He also KNEW what he was doing was wrong because if anyone outside the team was in for practice, he was an "angel".

If he thought that kind of behavior was effective coaching and nothing wrong with it, why not continue to coach that way no matter who was around?  That's what is disturbing in a way.  He knew what he was doing was wrong, but kept doing it.  There are some sociopathic tendencies there, IMO.

Unless they already saw some of that at home, I would be concerned as a spouse or child in that family - maybe the team was his way of releasing?

One time at band camp I went into the shower area and picked the locker next to the band director, he slammed my locker door and said I wasn't going to use that locker.

I threw down and he corrected his behavior.

From then on I was legendary at band camp.

The end

(small attempt to lighten the thread up a bit)

Silly estrogen.

hahaha...  that made me laugh.  guess you're right!! 

So then help me out.... I think we can all agree not everyone would respond the same way... I can say I would not respond well, but there is a lot of actions that would mean "not respond well". Does not have to mean a punch to the face.

But yet everyone seems to be jumping on LB because he would "dare" to respond to violence with violence. Oh the horror, think of the children.

Yet that is a legitimate response. Maybe not for everyone all the time, but it is legit. 2 legit 2 quit if you ask me.

I happen to think standing up for your self is an admirable trait, and you can do that with a punch, a video, a news conference, or a lawyer.... but not putting up with abuse is a good thing.

So then....if you are a pacifist... then continue to be one. If you would handle the situation by keeping your mouth shut and avoiding eye contact, then keep doing that. Yet I fail to see the problem with some people choosing to handle the situation differently.

... and for all those holding MLK up as the picture or passive resistance... he carried a gun, and he had an arsenal in his house. Do you really think he had that to turn the cheek and hand it to his attacker to shoot him with his own gun? No he had it, because sometimes answering violence with violence is a good solution.

... and no I'm not tough... more a lover... I just get it, even if I rarely choose it.

I guess when I look at it, why sink to the level of the offender?