Bolt is out of this world (Page 3)

Can't really say about him, since no really big names have ever been busted for doping in swimming I would go ahead and say he is innocent until proven guilty. And the fact that he has won some of his gold medals by a slim margin also goes to his favour.

No, I do believe though that when most people are faced with the choice of making out a modest living or making millions by doping they will take the road to the millions every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Who cares?   Michael Phelps is not even the best American swimmer!  Chad Johnson says he can beat him swimming, as well as some of his friends could beat him.

Chad Johnson told ESPN last week that he knew several people in Liberty City, Miami who could beat Phelps in a race. He said if Phelps went there, he would find people that could beat him in the inner city, people who could not make it to Beijing to compete.

Johnson also stated that he was three-time champ at Charles Hadly school, an elementary school in Miami.

I mean what more of a resume do you need? 

Dude...seriously? You don't know much about swimming then.

Jessica Hardy and Ouyang Kunpeng right before the games.

I just don't see how you can accuse Bolt of doping, yet at the same time give Phelps and other swimmers the benefit of the doubt after they obliterated world record after world record.

FWIW, Gary Hall, Jr. has said the new LZR suit is a convenient excuse to cover up a large doping problem in swimming.  While I'm not sure how much credence I give to his opionion, it happened in 1976 and could certainly be happening again.

I will admit I Know little to nothing about swimming so I can't comment on Phelps. However if he is able to smash the records of a swimmer who has been busted for doping then I think we can all come to a consensus about what he is taking.

All of us being athletes of one form or another can all understand the concept of diminishing marginal returns. The more and more you train at something the less results or benefit you will gain from additional training. This is why most often the top elite athletes in a certain sport will be fairly close to one another. This is because they train all day anyway, so if after training for 6 hrs. a day one of them decides to train an extra hr., he is not going to gain that great of a benefit for it because of diminishing returns.

This is why I'm very suspicious whenever I see an athlete completely tear up the competition like Bolt did. But hey don't let me stop you, if you trully believe he was engineered by God and is wholly clean who am I to stop you.

I think this is the  flaw in your argument.

You seem to be assuming that if you dope, you set crazy world records. That's clearly not the case not the case. I could have a world-class pharmacy at my disposal, but I'm not going to hop in the pool and throw down a 46.5 100 free. So you can't assume that a performance by a doper equals the pinnacle of human acheivement.

Say, for instance, that today I can drop a 59 second 100 free. If I maintain my current training regimen and dope for a year, maybe I get down to 57.0 Hell, maybe I drop 4 seconds and go 55.0. Now...I'm a doper with a 55 second 100 free. Does that mean everyone in the world who can go faster must also be doping? Because that seems to be your argument.

You have every right to be skeptical; it's just that your logic seems to be extremely flawed.

What a shame.  Perhaps you should look into changing your acquaintance group.  There are very few people I know that would cheat to get much of anything.  In the morning you still have to look at yourself in the mirror and that's a chore if you did not get where you are honestly.

Seriously, find new friends if that's the way everyone around you thinks.  They'll drag you down and you'll start believing it normal.