No More TSA Body Scanners (Page 3)

It's not necessarily about the people using the machines. This is also about the TSA agents who work their shift in close proximity to the machines. For example, consider this Johns Hopkins study which said that the radiation levels around these machines could exceed the "General Public Dose Limit."

http://epic.org/privacy/backscatter/radiation_hopkins.pdf

There's not an established link between a machine and cancer, this is true... but... there is one between ionizing radiation and an increased risk of cancer. I don't think referring to Aaron's opinion as "ignorant and uninformed" is fair. Was he engaging in a bit of hyperbole? Perhaps.

Charming.

There are established dosage limits for occupational workers like those operating nuclear reactors, Navy ship personnel, that sort of thing.  You wear a dosimeter and everything is kept track of.  I would guess it's the same with the TSA folks but I haven't personally seen them wearing one.

The other problem with the TSA is that so much of what they do is kept secret from the public.  There are laws you can break but they won't tell you what the law is.  And I bet if you tried to find out how much radiation is emitted by one of their backscatter machines, you'd have a hard time getting any solid info.

In that sense, Sous using the word "ignorant" is a good description of the public as a whole, because the government and TSA likes it that way.  We really should be allowed to quantify the risk before subjecting everyone to those scans.

Yes, as much I would like to continue the.... uh, "dialogue" would be too strong a word for it.... I'll leave it to others to bear that cross.

Good call.

Yes, I would if they said something incorrect, ignorant and uninformed.  It doesn't matter the person.  Or is that one of those, how one treats people should be different moments? 

But then again I was the guy that had no problem telling the Regional Administrator he was wrong in the middle of a meeting because...he was.  But I also had the report to prove it.  Someone's status does not preclude them from anything.  IMHO

Bluntly, they would never know what it was most likely.  But it would show up on the scan just like the piece of paper left in your pocket.  They couldn't confiscate it.

Know who would be PO'd?  Dosimitry!  But then again, there would be no noticeable change in it most likely.  We had many people leave theirs on when I was in the Nuke world.  It's just a PITA

My fellow BTers, everyone just take a breath and calm down a moment.  Lets put a moratorium on this bickering and get back to the more pertinent, and interesting discussions like mehaner getting groped by TSA agents who take their job too seriously and what speedknight is or is not wearing under his kilt. 

ETA - sarcastic font didn't think it was needed orginally but you never know.

Get me a dosimeter and I'll get it done.  I could hold it in my hand over my head as I go through the scanner.  I've held other harmless things in my hands and they don't say a word.  

Of course, when you're mailing the dosimeter, it could get contaminated in transit.  

Then if you do carry one through the machine, the flight itself will show a dose.  Not to mention the time spent right-next-to the xray belt.  

Maybe if you carry a really sensitive geiger counter while you're doing all that stuff it'll give you a better indication of what is causing the issues.  

AHA! Mythbusters! that's who could help us... Send it in! 

I'm glad that at least someone else realize that saying a statement is incorrect, ignorant, or uninformed is NOT some type of personal insult or attack.

Telling someone they are wrong/incorrect is one thing...  name calling is another.

So, along with telling you regional administrator they were wrong did you call them uninformed and ignorant?

I personally think there are constructive/polite/and non offensive ways to argue an opposing viewpoint - and not so polite ways.

Hmm, a new user in her first post, putting a link to a website called "personal money manager."

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