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 2012-10-30 11:44 AM in reply to: #4475112 |
Champion  34263     Chicago |  Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting?scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:40 AM spudone - 2012-10-30 11:14 AM How much vote fraud is tolerable? I don't know-- how many infant co-sleeping deaths are tolerable? It's not a widely pervasive problem either, but we're sure spending a lot of money and effort to reduce it. Hit the nail on the head. I have a math background but I'm not a statistician. But I'm sure there are some out there who have modeled the voting system in various states. You're looking for statistical significance. If I can vote twice, it doesn't really matter, except on principle. If a bunch of people can vote fraudulently, but both major parties are equally good at it, it doesn't really matter. If there's a way to heavily tilt a race one way or the other - like hacking an electronic voting system - that's a huge concern. Let's see, in 2000, the winner of the presidential election was decided by 534 Florida votes out of 6 million in that state and about 103 million in the nation. In other words, by about .0000052% of the total popular vote. Would .0000053% vote fraud been tolerable then? Statistically significant? (Of course, in actuality, there probably was at least that amount, IMO.) And it STILL didn't matter. Because that election was not determined by the popular vote. |
| 2012-10-30 11:50 AM in reply to: #4461086 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality.  |
| 2012-10-30 11:50 AM in reply to: #4475123 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? mr2tony - 2012-10-30 11:44 AM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:40 AM spudone - 2012-10-30 11:14 AM How much vote fraud is tolerable? I don't know-- how many infant co-sleeping deaths are tolerable? It's not a widely pervasive problem either, but we're sure spending a lot of money and effort to reduce it. Hit the nail on the head. I have a math background but I'm not a statistician. But I'm sure there are some out there who have modeled the voting system in various states. You're looking for statistical significance. If I can vote twice, it doesn't really matter, except on principle. If a bunch of people can vote fraudulently, but both major parties are equally good at it, it doesn't really matter. If there's a way to heavily tilt a race one way or the other - like hacking an electronic voting system - that's a huge concern. Let's see, in 2000, the winner of the presidential election was decided by 534 Florida votes out of 6 million in that state and about 103 million in the nation. In other words, by about .0000052% of the total popular vote. Would .0000053% vote fraud been tolerable then? Statistically significant? (Of course, in actuality, there probably was at least that amount, IMO.) And it STILL didn't matter. Because that election was not determined by the popular vote. It was determined by .000089 of the POPULAR vote within Florida. Is .00009% voter fraud statistically significant then? |
| 2012-10-30 11:56 AM in reply to: #4475133 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... |
| 2012-10-30 11:59 AM in reply to: #4475057 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? verga - 2012-10-30 12:18 PM Participating in our system should require a certain amount of effort. Getting tot he polls on election day should be part of that effort. I do support absentee ballots for people that can prove they will be out of the country or unable to vote. This would include military personnel and those proven to be home ridden. (1) Early voting did get me to the polls (2) Why should it take EFFORT? Shouldn't you WANT people to vote? I also feel that Early voting is to much of an opportunity for fraud. How so? They have 10 days to check my records -- not 10 hours. |
| 2012-10-30 12:07 PM in reply to: #4475144 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan? |
| 2012-10-30 12:11 PM in reply to: #4475164 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? mr2tony - 2012-10-30 1:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan?tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. ...so neither side has confidence in the integrity of the system because neither feels there are sufficient vote fraud prevention measures in place? Excellent. Let's get going on that immediately with clean voter registration lists, elimination of same-day registration, and Voter ID , for starters, with bipartisan support. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Text your vote to #456 if you want Romney and #666 if you want Obama. heheh |
| 2012-10-30 12:13 PM in reply to: #4475168 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 12:11 PM mr2tony - 2012-10-30 1:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan?tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. ...so neither side has confidence in the integrity of the system because neither feels there are sufficient vote fraud prevention measures in place? Excellent. Let's get going on that immediately with clean voter registration lists, elimination of same-day registration, and Voter ID , for starters, with bipartisan support. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Text your vote to #456 if you want Romney and #666 if you want Obama. heheh I can't afford the text charges! |
| 2012-10-30 12:16 PM in reply to: #4475164 |
Champion 6056 Menomonee Falls, WI | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan? Glad you're finally on board. Please present yourself at your local veterinary office for immediate microchipping. Edited by scoobysdad 2012-10-30 12:17 PM |
| 2012-10-30 12:22 PM in reply to: #4475172 |
Expert 3126 Boise, ID | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? mr2tony - 2012-10-30 11:13 AM GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 12:11 PM I can't afford the text charges!mr2tony - 2012-10-30 1:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan?tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. ...so neither side has confidence in the integrity of the system because neither feels there are sufficient vote fraud prevention measures in place? Excellent. Let's get going on that immediately with clean voter registration lists, elimination of same-day registration, and Voter ID , for starters, with bipartisan support. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Text your vote to #456 if you want Romney and #666 if you want Obama. heheh Good thing we have government subsidized cell phones now... |
| 2012-10-30 12:22 PM in reply to: #4475172 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:13 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 12:11 PM I can't afford the text charges!mr2tony - 2012-10-30 1:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan?tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. ...so neither side has confidence in the integrity of the system because neither feels there are sufficient vote fraud prevention measures in place? Excellent. Let's get going on that immediately with clean voter registration lists, elimination of same-day registration, and Voter ID , for starters, with bipartisan support. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Text your vote to #456 if you want Romney and #666 if you want Obama. heheh Go get your Obama Phone |
| 2012-10-30 12:23 PM in reply to: #4475194 |
Champion 15211 Southern Chicago Suburbs, IL | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? Aarondb4 - 2012-10-30 12:22 PM mr2tony - 2012-10-30 11:13 AM GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 12:11 PM I can't afford the text charges!mr2tony - 2012-10-30 1:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan?tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. ...so neither side has confidence in the integrity of the system because neither feels there are sufficient vote fraud prevention measures in place? Excellent. Let's get going on that immediately with clean voter registration lists, elimination of same-day registration, and Voter ID , for starters, with bipartisan support. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Text your vote to #456 if you want Romney and #666 if you want Obama. heheh Good thing we have government subsidized cell phones now because of Reagan... Fixed. |
| 2012-10-30 12:26 PM in reply to: #4475197 |
Pro 3906 St Charles, IL | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? tuwood - 2012-10-30 12:22 PM mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:13 PM I can't afford the text charges! Go get your Obama Phone http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KgoJLrYzJJI#! |
| 2012-10-30 12:28 PM in reply to: #4475202 |
Pro 9391 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? coredump - 2012-10-30 12:26 PM tuwood - 2012-10-30 12:22 PM mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:13 PM I can't afford the text charges! Go get your Obama Phone http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KgoJLrYzJJI#! Romney, He Suck! |
| 2012-10-30 1:21 PM in reply to: #4475197 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? tuwood - 2012-10-30 12:22 PM mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:13 PM GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 12:11 PM I can't afford the text charges!mr2tony - 2012-10-30 1:07 PM scoobysdad - 2012-10-30 11:56 AM Zero percent voter fraud is idea. Let's make it happen! What's your plan?tuwood - 2012-10-30 11:50 AM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. ...so neither side has confidence in the integrity of the system because neither feels there are sufficient vote fraud prevention measures in place? Excellent. Let's get going on that immediately with clean voter registration lists, elimination of same-day registration, and Voter ID , for starters, with bipartisan support. 71% of Americans favor Voter ID. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_pol... Text your vote to #456 if you want Romney and #666 if you want Obama. heheh Go get your Obama Phone Yeah blame Ronnie Ray Gun for that one. I'm going to vote early so I dont have to leave work that day. |
| 2012-10-30 2:33 PM in reply to: #4475133 |
Master 2277 Lake Norman, NC | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? tuwood - 2012-10-30 12:50 PM One thing I do find humorous on the voter fraud topic. I follow both freerepublic.com and democraticunderground.com real close because I like to see both sides of issues. Both sites are all about the rampant voter fraud on the other side. So, based on what I deem as equal fears on both sides it probably cancels itself out to a certain extent in reality. Too true. Too true. I guess part of being a politician ias to be "cold war", military in your thinking. "If they do that, we need to counter with this." "If they claim this, we need to counter with that." No statement ever goes left unresponded. I believe there are dirty tactics from BOTH sides trying to keep people from voting. But I don't believe there's much if any actual voter fraud at the polls. But Repubs say there is and blame the Dems. And Dems would say there is and blame the Repubs. I guess it's like football with two penalites on the same play that cancel each other out. One idiot political party makes a claim and the other idiot party makes a claim and they both cancel each other out. It just costs a whole lot of time and money to cancel it all out.
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| 2012-10-30 7:47 PM in reply to: #4461086 |
Pro 4838 | Subject: RE: What do you think of early voting? If you don't know who you like at this point I don't think another few days will matter. I already voted and there was no lines at all. 5 minutes total from the time I walked in to the time I walked out. I remember waiting 45 minutes 4 years ago when I waited til election day. |
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