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2014-03-17 8:41 AM in reply to: switch |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch What's a fartlek in swimming? fartlek is changing the pace, or speed play. For the group I'm in, they have a set pattern for this across four intervals. fast/ez, ez/fast, fast, ez. So on the first two we're changing pace mid lap. |
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2014-03-17 9:58 AM in reply to: brigby1 |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge My workout and distance for today 2950m total My swims are for the most part coming from my Olympic tri plan from Matt Fitzgerald. He labels this swim as "swim base + lactate". The 100's are pretty fundamental for triathletes, and the 75's at a harder effort level are meant to push me a little harder after putting some work in. At least that's my assumption. I'm in the "build phase" of my training, so my yardage is going to start creeping up.
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2014-03-17 10:17 AM in reply to: msteiner |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by msteiner My workout and distance for today 2950m total My swims are for the most part coming from my Olympic tri plan from Matt Fitzgerald. He labels this swim as "swim base + lactate". The 100's are pretty fundamental for triathletes, and the 75's at a harder effort level are meant to push me a little harder after putting some work in. At least that's my assumption. I'm in the "build phase" of my training, so my yardage is going to start creeping up.
that's a good workout. The OCD in me would have done an extra 50 for the CD to get to 3000. |
2014-03-17 11:25 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Master 10208 Northern IL | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by msteiner My workout and distance for today 2950m total My swims are for the most part coming from my Olympic tri plan from Matt Fitzgerald. He labels this swim as "swim base + lactate". The 100's are pretty fundamental for triathletes, and the 75's at a harder effort level are meant to push me a little harder after putting some work in. At least that's my assumption. I'm in the "build phase" of my training, so my yardage is going to start creeping up.
that's a good workout. The OCD in me would have done an extra 50 for the CD to get to 3000. If you made it to the pool in the first place! |
2014-03-17 12:26 PM in reply to: switch |
324 | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Got #1 in! My test timing is 200- I did it right after warming up a little (I also jogged to the pool so was pretty warm already. 200 yards- 4:10 all free- no stops. This is good for me! 50X2 warm up 200 yards- 4:10 (all free) ladder- 25, 50, 75, 100, 75, 50 25. 30 sec rests other: 25 breast, 75 free 25 free, 25 breast, 75 free 50 free, 25 breast, 25 free 75 free, 25 breast 100 cool down (25 free, 25 breast, repeat) |
2014-03-17 2:15 PM in reply to: el penguino |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Ughh! I had hoped to get my "n" workout in today but someone decided to schedule meetings that conflict with my window for mid-day pool time. Just got to get in two a week and tomorrow looks open so keeping my fingers crossed. |
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2014-03-17 2:27 PM in reply to: el penguino |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by el penguino Got #1 in! My test timing is 200- I did it right after warming up a little (I also jogged to the pool so was pretty warm already. 200 yards- 4:10 all free- no stops. This is good for me! 50X2 warm up 200 yards- 4:10 (all free) ladder- 25, 50, 75, 100, 75, 50 25. 30 sec rests other: 25 breast, 75 free 25 free, 25 breast, 75 free 50 free, 25 breast, 25 free 75 free, 25 breast 100 cool down (25 free, 25 breast, repeat) Nice job! |
2014-03-17 2:29 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Thanks everyone for schooling me on the swimming 'lingo'. Maybe, at the end of the month, not only will my swimming improve (hopefully), but I'll be able to talk the part also! |
2014-03-17 2:52 PM in reply to: brigby1 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by brigby1 ^^^Hahaha!Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by msteiner My workout and distance for today 2950m total My swims are for the most part coming from my Olympic tri plan from Matt Fitzgerald. He labels this swim as "swim base + lactate". The 100's are pretty fundamental for triathletes, and the 75's at a harder effort level are meant to push me a little harder after putting some work in. At least that's my assumption. I'm in the "build phase" of my training, so my yardage is going to start creeping up.
that's a good workout. The OCD in me would have done an extra 50 for the CD to get to 3000. :) If you made it to the pool in the first place! Ahem, I also would have felt compelled to hit 3000. |
2014-03-17 2:53 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by MikeyP4 Originally posted by el penguino Got #1 in! My test timing is 200- I did it right after warming up a little (I also jogged to the pool so was pretty warm already. 200 yards- 4:10 all free- no stops. This is good for me! 50X2 warm up 200 yards- 4:10 (all free) ladder- 25, 50, 75, 100, 75, 50 25. 30 sec rests other: 25 breast, 75 free 25 free, 25 breast, 75 free 50 free, 25 breast, 25 free 75 free, 25 breast 100 cool down (25 free, 25 breast, repeat) Nice job! Strong work, Nancy :) |
2014-03-17 2:56 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer I will keep my fingers crossed for you :) First week of the n +1 swim challenge and my favorite pool is closed and I have 3/3 kids with strep! Dang it.Ughh! I had hoped to get my "n" workout in today but someone decided to schedule meetings that conflict with my window for mid-day pool time. Just got to get in two a week and tomorrow looks open so keeping my fingers crossed. How are those legs feeling after your speedy race Steve? |
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2014-03-17 2:59 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by MikeyP4 Thanks everyone for schooling me on the swimming 'lingo'. Maybe, at the end of the month, not only will my swimming improve (hopefully), but I'll be able to talk the part also! Mikey, I appreciate that you are asking these questions. I need a course on the lingo too. Ben and Arend are two of the most patient (and knowledgeable) teachers on the board. |
2014-03-17 3:20 PM in reply to: switch |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer I will keep my fingers crossed for you First week of the n +1 swim challenge and my favorite pool is closed and I have 3/3 kids with strep! Dang it.Ughh! I had hoped to get my "n" workout in today but someone decided to schedule meetings that conflict with my window for mid-day pool time. Just got to get in two a week and tomorrow looks open so keeping my fingers crossed. How are those legs feeling after your speedy race Steve? Well, I didn't want the race to interfere with my marathon build so I slogged out 12.7 miles the next day. It was really tough. Sorry to hear about your kids and the directional mishap on your run. That looked like a really, really tough run with slush and mud. We need Spring!! |
2014-03-17 3:29 PM in reply to: switch |
324 | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer I will keep my fingers crossed for you First week of the n +1 swim challenge and my favorite pool is closed and I have 3/3 kids with strep! Dang it.Ughh! I had hoped to get my "n" workout in today but someone decided to schedule meetings that conflict with my window for mid-day pool time. Just got to get in two a week and tomorrow looks open so keeping my fingers crossed. How are those legs feeling after your speedy race Steve? well, at least the kids are efficient, they're doing it all at the same time rather than staggered over 3 weeks. Hope you can get to the pool, and don't catch it yourself. |
2014-03-17 3:37 PM in reply to: popsracer |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by popsracer 12.7 the next day?! Be careful! :) Originally posted by switch Originally posted by popsracer I will keep my fingers crossed for you :) First week of the n +1 swim challenge and my favorite pool is closed and I have 3/3 kids with strep! Dang it.Ughh! I had hoped to get my "n" workout in today but someone decided to schedule meetings that conflict with my window for mid-day pool time. Just got to get in two a week and tomorrow looks open so keeping my fingers crossed. How are those legs feeling after your speedy race Steve? Well, I didn't want the race to interfere with my marathon build so I slogged out 12.7 miles the next day. It was really tough. Sorry to hear about your kids and the directional mishap on your run. That looked like a really, really tough run with slush and mud. We need Spring!! The update on my run mishap is that I had posted a similar message on my tri team's board and the RD responded. He said a lot of people DNFed because of the trails and a number DQd/missed the turn/had course nav problems. Two directional signs came down, and volunteers that were supposed to be directing people didn't stay their post. Apparently he's even giving refunds to people who had course nav problems. Now I have to go back next year and beat the stupid thing :)
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2014-03-17 3:39 PM in reply to: el penguino |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by el penguino Originally posted by switch well, at least the kids are efficient, they're doing it all at the same time rather than staggered over 3 weeks. Hope you can get to the pool, and don't catch it yourself. Originally posted by popsracer I will keep my fingers crossed for you :) First week of the n +1 swim challenge and my favorite pool is closed and I have 3/3 kids with strep! Dang it.Ughh! I had hoped to get my "n" workout in today but someone decided to schedule meetings that conflict with my window for mid-day pool time. Just got to get in two a week and tomorrow looks open so keeping my fingers crossed. How are those legs feeling after your speedy race Steve? It is very nice of them to all get it together :) I hate to put this out there, as I'll probably jinx myself, but I have never been diagnosed with strep. |
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2014-03-17 3:46 PM in reply to: switch |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge 2200yds, 2/7 Purpose: work on quick turnover/stroke rate and timing. 5 x 200, 5 x 100 <1:30/100 for all. Instead of RI, 50 kick between each. CD. ------------ Does anyone have a recommendation of a good swim vid, preferable with some underwater portions, of a quick turnover? I find sometimes if I watch a good swimmer before my pool session I can imagine that form while I'm swimming and it can help with focus. |
2014-03-17 6:28 PM in reply to: switch |
Member 119 Ledyard, CT | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch 2200yds, 2/7 Purpose: work on quick turnover/stroke rate and timing. 5 x 200, 5 x 100 <1:30/100 for all. Instead of RI, 50 kick between each. CD. Nice workout! I like the idea of kick sets between each swim set; I might try to incorporate that into a workout soon. |
2014-03-17 7:20 PM in reply to: MikeyP4 |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Thanks. I'm still learning about set design, so not sure if it's a well-designed or "smart" set, but it was what I felt I could do today and still adhere to the "purpose" of my session--quick(er), smooth turnover. I would say my efforts during the set were about 85%, but a solid 4-5 sec/100 below my CSS. It felt good, but the higher stroke rate definitely feels harder in my arms/lats, and I liked that extra oxygen during those kick sets :)
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2014-03-18 3:17 PM in reply to: switch |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge 3/7. Purpose: work on flip turns Fishes, do you flutter or dolphin kick out of a freestyle flip turn?
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2014-03-18 3:29 PM in reply to: switch |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch 3/7. Purpose: work on flip turns Fishes, do you flutter or dolphin kick out of a freestyle flip turn?
I'm not a fish, but I flutter. I don't know how dolphin kicking works. |
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2014-03-18 4:03 PM in reply to: switch |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by switch 3/7. Purpose: work on flip turns Fishes, do you flutter or dolphin kick out of a freestyle flip turn?
Is "no" a valid response? If it were a short race or TT or something that I cared about the time, I would dolphin kick but to be honest when I am training I mostly just do a good streamlined push off the wall and start swimming. I find dolphin kicking uses a lot of energy (likely because I don't practice it regularly). Did you see the thread on ST about flip turns? There were a couple of good videos in it. |
2014-03-18 4:11 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by msteiner Flutter. OK. Do you ever dolphin kick? I like it. Probably 1/4-1/3 of my kick sets are dolphin. Originally posted by switch 3/7. Purpose: work on flip turns Fishes, do you flutter or dolphin kick out of a freestyle flip turn?
I'm not a fish, but I flutter. I don't know how dolphin kicking works. |
2014-03-18 4:14 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by switch Is "no" a valid response? 3/7. Purpose: work on flip turns Fishes, do you flutter or dolphin kick out of a freestyle flip turn?
If it were a short race or TT or something that I cared about the time, I would dolphin kick but to be honest when I am training I mostly just do a good streamlined push off the wall and start swimming. I find dolphin kicking uses a lot of energy (likely because I don't practice it regularly). Did you see the thread on ST about flip turns? There were a couple of good videos in it. No is definitely valid if that's what you do. I'm guessing you've got a *little* more momentum coming out of your turns than I do :) I'll go find the ST thread. Thanks!
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2014-03-18 4:16 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Pro 6520 Bellingham, WA | Subject: RE: n + 1 swim challenge Cracked the ice for the week and got in my "n" workout. Three days left to get +1 so should make it. I only use a dolphin kick off the wall if I'm feeling particularly frisky (which isn't often) or if there is an attractive dolphin in the lane next me that I am trying to impress (even less often). Usually just like to get into my normal stroke as soon as possible. |
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