Trump (Page 30)

marysia83 - if you would be willing to pledge, right now, that you will vote for Donald Trump.....I think I can get Tony back.

What moon?

Why would he, indeed?  What's so broke about our system? 

What needs fixing is the way the govt. spends money......he can do that, and why wouldn't he?

Valid points. He knows how the system works and knows how to work the system. 

There have been a couple of times where I thought he missed some slam dunk opportunities. One was in the debate where Rubio berated him for having a clothes line made in China, I thought that would have been a good time for Trump to say, I was just working within the system you and the the rest of the idiots in DC set up, I'd love to bring my company back here and after I'm elected we'll change the rules so I and thousands of others just like me will do just that. The second is when he is slammed for giving money to the Dems, (he also gave a lot to the R's as well) This would have been a good time for him to show or say just how corrupt the system and the players in it are and that's exactly why he wants to be president, so he can change that. These things are what I"m hoping he'll do or try to do if he does in fact become president. I'm guessing he knows where there are a lot of closets with even more skeletons in them are. 

One thing i know for sure, the current system, D's & R's have no interest in making things better for anyone but themselves. The R's would rather see Hillary elected than Trump, that will maintain-the status quo, Trump, I think and hope, will truly try to change things for the better for the average person.

On an unrelated side note, if you took all of the assets from all of the billionaires in the USA it would only pay down a little over 10% of our $20,000,000,000,000.00 debt ,,,,, yes, I have had to much time on my hands recently. 

When you "that" what specifically are you referring to?

You bring up a good point.  We don't know that he will do anything for the average person.  But we do know that the current crop of politicians will do nothing for the average person.  (note I said ave. not the poor or the rich.)

I think most people who will stomach Trump are more fed up with the status quo.  This is true for Trump or Bernie.  We have a better chance at new people working together in WA then we do with more of the same.  Ultimately this election is the same as every other one I have seen in the last 20+ years.  Vote for the lesser of evils.  In order of evils:  1.  Hillary, 2 Cruz, 3 Kaisich, 4. Bernie 5. Trump.  Just my opinion.  In this case Trump and how he would act as a politician is unknown.  Anything you speculate is just that, speculation.

How much would a wall cost anyways?

Zero.  Mexico is paying for it!

I've thought for a lot of years a business person would be a better choice than a career politician. Trump has said a couple of things that resonate with me; 1. cutting waste in federal spending. I think he has the expertise to see where a lot of waste is, now can he get the pigs at the trough to quit is another story.Another comment he's made numerous times is how 2. China has rolled us so bad and this resonates with me personally and I'll share a quick story. One of the items I sell or have is women's fishnet stockings, for me to send 1 or up to 4 pairs across the street via the USPS the postage alone is $2.60 with a discount, 1st class mail. If I want to ship it international the cost is near $7.00. I can buy the same product from China delivered to my door for 99 cents. How can the USPS deliver that to me, if we aren't getting rolled by the idiots in DC.  

I'm not as big a Trump fan as I am opposed to the status quo, the DNC and the RNC. The more the "establishment" on both sides of the isle paint him (though he gives them an ample supply of ammo) the more in favor of him I am. 

The thing I know for sure, the DNC and the RNC don't care about anything but taking care of themselves, that's why Romney and the rest of that group are so scared of Trump having any power in DC. Trump will have no problem calling the Pigs at the trough out publicly in a effort to get his way, imo. 

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results,,,,,,,, what do they call that?

Maybe you missed this in my response. 

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results,,,,,,,, what do they call that?

Who of the wack jobs running for president do you think will do a better job and why?

If your goal was to get me to quit reading in the middle of your second paragraph you were successful. 

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I think I'm going to follow Tony's lead, with what I've see from you jeff and miller, I'm going to spend my time watching some young chicks on CAM. It's a lot more educational. 

Those guys have ruined BT!!!  

You and Tony need to take this for what it is......a discussion.....and a good one.  I find it hard to get upset about a bunch of knucklehead's opinions about the next President (and yeah, I could make a run for biggest knucklehead with very little training).  This is all just gonna be what it is......whatever that is.  But running out on the discussion leaves us short of a full deck.  Jeff is probably comfortable there, but I ain't.