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2016-02-17 5:12 PM
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Originally posted by Moonrocket
Originally posted by novaboy Hey folks, Yesterday I did a max effort run. 6.5km over rolling terrain. For me it was fast, 3mins faster than the last time I ran the same route 10 days ago. I'm almost 47 years old and my HR spiked at 202bpm coming up the last hill to finish. 14mins of the run I was in 174-188bpm range. Anyone else have a high HR when running? My resting rate is 45bpm. I know I'm still getting back into shape again, but even when I was younger just before my last Ironman, my HR seemed to be very high for the effort. My easy, long runs my HR averages high 150's to mid 160's. Cheers Terry
I have a crazy high heart rate- I rarely use a HR monitor- but last spring ran with one and was at 180 while chatting with friends and jogging (I'm 40). I'm on the edge of pulling the trigger on a Scosche Rhythm+ Heart Rate Monitor Armband. I can't stand the chest ones. I think it would be good to get a feel for it. Even in college my coach though I couldn't do pulse since I was always way high. Kate

 

Like I said in my HR post, your max HR and work rate HR is largely determined by genetics. You both are perfect examples why the whole 220 minus age thing doesn't work. Some people have naturally high HRs. Frankly I surprised that you (novaboy) have such a high HR and such a low resting HR. That means you have a massive HR reserve, which theoretically is very good. I know I said before that HR work rates vary by person and are not objective, but generally, the lower the working HR, the more fit you are. But this is relative of course to your natural rhythm. A lower working HR means your heart pumps more efficiently. Chris Froome's HR at his functional threshold (about 420watts) is only in the mid 140s. That's insanely low but his max HR is probably only 170-175.

 

If you're (moonrocket) hitting 180 and still having a chat, that makes me think you have a high natural HR, and with quality training you'd probably see yourself running the same pace (and effort) with a lower HR (maybe 170) but you'll never be Chris Froome low (which says nothing about potential, just emphasizing the point about genetics). Have you ever been tested or told you have tachycardia? If your resting HR is high (90s-100s) you might have that. I'm the opposite. I have bradycardia, a naturally very low HR. Resting is around 34-38 and max is about 185 even when I was untrained. I would start using an HRM more often though because 180 seems a tad excessive and maybe your strap was malfunctioning or something. The highest Ive ever seen someone's zone 2 endurance HR was 160. 




So, I got my HRM yesterday and my resting is like 68-72. So not crazy high.

My workout time was taken up by changing a tire today- hopefully I can fit in plan B tonight.



2016-02-17 6:10 PM
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Another solid start to my week:

Monday:  60' trainer 4 x 8' @ high tempo 75-85% FTP at various cadences, 3' RBI

Tuesday:  3+ TM miles, 1500y swim

Wednesday:  60' trainer little bit of everything (endurance in aero, tempo, couple of VO2 max intervals, and 3 10 seconds standing sprints), shooting for a lunch run

I had a solid start last week but then it went to hell in a handbasket; gotta keep it up this week.




Nice start, Mike! What can we do to help keep you going this week?
2016-02-17 6:13 PM
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A couple of things.

I went out for a 9 pm run tonight. This never works out to well for me. I get lightheaded often. Tonight, a car was slowing down as I was crossing an intersection and was rear ended hard by the vehicle behind it. The car was pushed right on past where I had just been running maybe 2 seconds prior. Close call. Totaled the front end of the Cherokee and the rear end of the Murano. Everyone was OK, and insured.

Stay safe out there while your getting your workouts in.

I decided to take this week and repeat my runs from last week rather than build. I do not feel like I yet have the runs under me to go from 6.2 to 8.2. Next week I'll make that jump. This week I'll try to improve on my times of my 4 and 6 milers. It's like whittling away at a good book. Only gets better the further your into it.

I had a PT appt. today. My first one ever. I've had some back pain since I got fat and out of shape 3 years ago. I had my back go out back then, and I've never felt right since. He was awesome. He is also a distance runner, and confirmed that with the injury I have, that running will only help strengthen the muscles around the vertebrae that are bothering me and to get back into shape. Never been happier leaving a doctors office as I was today.


Wow, Kevin, I'm glad to hear you're okay!! That's a close one!

Great news from the PT! I'm sure he will have you straightened out in no time - just keep up with the homework.

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2016-02-17 6:20 PM
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Well it has been a super busy couple of weeks for me. First it was off for a mini holiday in Phoenix! Great weather, great beer, great food...scared to get on the scale. Rented a bike for the weekend as well as trailing running and hiking. Bikes were beaters but they worked fine for what we needed. Phoenix knows how to treat bikers. Must have crossed paths with at least 100+ bikers in an hour of biking!

Got back Tuesday. I started an outdoor hockey tournament last year. this is the second year. Came back to +11 Celsius. Ice was shot. Moved to plan B and changed to ball hockey. Had two teams drop out. We spent 3 days removing ice from rink...crazy week but well worth as we had great feedback on tournament. Of course my training suffered this past week!

 





Sounds like a great vacation, Thor!!
Sorry to hear you don't have ice... that's about all we have right now. One day it's 50, like there, but heavy rain - which doesn't go well on frozen ground. I spent a couple of hours yesterday bailing out my side yard in hopes of keeping it out of my basement window well. Success - yay! Now we're back below freezing and tomorrow will be a high of 18F (-8C) here and back up to 45F (7C) on Saturday and rain. It's a hockey rink. So messed up.
That's very cool you started the tournament!
2016-02-17 6:23 PM
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#68--early morning trainer ride. I did spinnervals free weekly workout. I had to sit on the bike for about 3 minutes at the end just to get feeling back in my legs! I *might* have pushed it a tad too hard.

#69--2000 yds in the pool at lunchtime. Some exciting news--the masters class is starting up a lunch time session! The normal sessions are at 6am, which I just can't do, try as I might. I'm hoping this sticks around a while, because I'd love to join. It won't work for me for a couple of more week though, since they start at 11:45 and I teach until 12:05, but after mid-March, if I don't go to Egypt (still waiting for permission), I'm so on it!


You are awesome, Gretchen! (or should I say Consistency!) Good news about the Master's Program. I'd love to join one but it's T, Th super early and with a traveling hubby I can't leave the kids. It looks like they'll be doing one on T around 11:15 though so I may be able to do this one! Wouldn't it be great to glean some knowledge from a swim coach?!
2016-02-17 6:31 PM
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Subject: RE: Beer Drinker Appreciation Society (BDAS) - Open
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Anyone up for a team race in Utah??

http://doxaraces.com/




Oh, this would be awesome and my sil lives out there! The date is tough though - only a month out from my race so I will sadly have to say no this year. - we'll see about later years!


2016-02-17 6:36 PM
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Originally posted by aviatrix802  Alan, you've driven part of the Tupper Lake HIM course, how do those rollers compare to IMMT?  

I did? lol. On the way to Lake Placid I assume? I'm not sure which part was the course but I would say none of those roads are like IMMT. Most of the IMMT course is a 6 lane highway and generally they try to make the hills as gradual as they can rather than sharp rolly rollers on smaller highways. 




Yes, it was on your way home from LP last summer - you were talking about some of the hills right before my race.
Okay, so long, gradual inclines for most and one nasty bugger? I'll check it out on Map my Run to see if anyone has posted it. I've seen it on Strava already but none of the inclines had ratings and I know that can't be true. Long inclines can be good. Thanks.
2016-02-17 6:37 PM
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Okay, I've hogged almost the whole page.
2500 yd swim this morning
30 min run this afternoon.
Ben & Jerry's ice cream tonight.
2016-02-18 9:43 AM
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I've been on the road for the last 4 days, so I squeezed in 3 days of running, 6km on the dreadmill, a 9km, and 7km outside. Made it to the pool this morning and swam a half IM test to see where I was at. 34mins for 1900m. Very happy about that. Felt good.

Ride on the trainer tonight for an hour, and back to the pool tomorrow.
2016-02-18 11:04 AM
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#71--another predawn run with the pup. I'm loving that when I go out it is dark and by the time I get back it is full light. Too bad daylight savings is coming...grrrrrr.

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2016-02-18 1:13 PM
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Just did a 20 minute jog with my new HRM. Very interesting!

I love the arm mount - so much more comfortable than a chest strap for me!!!

Anyone have good references for me to look at on on HR to learn more? How quick should you recover after a run? I need to upload my data- I threw in walk minutes to see how quick my HR came down mid run and after the run.


2016-02-18 1:15 PM
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Originally posted by novaboy

I've been on the road for the last 4 days, so I squeezed in 3 days of running, 6km on the dreadmill, a 9km, and 7km outside. Made it to the pool this morning and swam a half IM test to see where I was at. 34mins for 1900m. Very happy about that. Felt good.

Ride on the trainer tonight for an hour, and back to the pool tomorrow.


Nice swim! Do you have a rule of thumb for pool to OWS times? I'm curious how they differ.
2016-02-18 1:16 PM
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#71--another predawn run with the pup. I'm loving that when I go out it is dark and by the time I get back it is full light. Too bad daylight savings is coming...grrrrrr.


I don't know how you are so consistent. That is my biggest downfall!

Any tips?
2016-02-18 1:16 PM
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Okay, I've hogged almost the whole page.
2500 yd swim this morning
30 min run this afternoon.
Ben & Jerry's ice cream tonight.


you can't tell us all this and leave out what flavor!
2016-02-18 2:50 PM
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Good question, OWS times can vary a lot depending on water conditions, current, etc. I did an Oly distance one year, and the swim was almost canceled because of the wind, and rough water. I think I was over 5 mins slower than my pool times. That's an extreme example.

In calm water they are pretty close, within a minute or so from what I can remember. It's been awhile.

Anyone else chime in on the subject?



Nice swim! Do you have a rule of thumb for pool to OWS times? I'm curious how they differ.
2016-02-18 3:05 PM
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Originally posted by aviatrix802

Okay, I've hogged almost the whole page.
2500 yd swim this morning
30 min run this afternoon.
Ben & Jerry's ice cream tonight.


you can't tell us all this and leave out what flavor!



hahahaha! Coffee toffee bar tonight. Not my fav but it's what I had on hand. Peanut butter cup may be on deck tonight!


2016-02-18 3:07 PM
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I've been on the road for the last 4 days, so I squeezed in 3 days of running, 6km on the dreadmill, a 9km, and 7km outside. Made it to the pool this morning and swam a half IM test to see where I was at. 34mins for 1900m. Very happy about that. Felt good.

Ride on the trainer tonight for an hour, and back to the pool tomorrow.


Sounds like you could get ready for IMMT if you really wanted to...........
2016-02-18 3:10 PM
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#71--another predawn run with the pup. I'm loving that when I go out it is dark and by the time I get back it is full light. Too bad daylight savings is coming...grrrrrr.


i agree. I'm like this with cycling too. (though just enough light to get started on the bike)
2016-02-18 3:28 PM
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Originally posted by novaboy

I've been on the road for the last 4 days, so I squeezed in 3 days of running, 6km on the dreadmill, a 9km, and 7km outside. Made it to the pool this morning and swam a half IM test to see where I was at. 34mins for 1900m. Very happy about that. Felt good.

Ride on the trainer tonight for an hour, and back to the pool tomorrow.


Sounds like you could get ready for IMMT if you really wanted to...........


Peer pressure? Bad influence? :P
2016-02-19 6:58 AM
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#72--trainer ride. For once I'm glad I had to do my ride on the trainer. Sustained 35mph winds here with higher gusts. Gonna lose some tree limbs today!
2016-02-19 7:49 AM
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Originally posted by novaboy Good question, OWS times can vary a lot depending on water conditions, current, etc. I did an Oly distance one year, and the swim was almost canceled because of the wind, and rough water. I think I was over 5 mins slower than my pool times. That's an extreme example. In calm water they are pretty close, within a minute or so from what I can remember. It's been awhile. Anyone else chime in on the subject? Nice swim! Do you have a rule of thumb for pool to OWS times? I'm curious how they differ.

Probably a little quicker in the pool, but that's because I swim zig-zags in OWS. 

I would imagine it varies a lot for people, and gets better (closer) with OWS practice.



2016-02-19 12:57 PM
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Hey everyone!

It's been awhile, but I'd love to rejoin BDAS for the 2016 year! I was just glancing through posts and love seeing a lot of familiar faces, mixed in with some new ones (new to me at least!).

Name: Nicole

Story: I live in Baltimore, Maryland, originally from Carlisle, PA (outside of Harrisburg). I grew up an athlete, including swimming from age 6 to 6th grade and Track/XC in HS and college. I always said after college I would start competing in triathlons but kept making excuses for why I didn't have time to train. Two years ago I finally broke down and signed up for one down in ATL, and did another one in Baltimore later that year. I LOVED them. I think I smiled the entire time. So far I've only done sprints, and will eventually work my way up to Olympic Distance. Probably not much higher than that b/c during my Track/XC years I was plagued with shin splints and had multiple stress fractures. My legs don't love distance.
Last year I was excited to sign up for a few more tris, but broke my pinky in May, and had 7 weddings (plus bachelorette parties and bridal shower galore...oh and 10 pregnant friends and their baby showers), so I decided to save my money and time and take the year off. Then I broke my foot in November (at the final wedding...in England...2 weeks in to a 3 week European adventure) and am finally healed up and ready to get back in the saddle! Hoping to do a few tris this year, including the Baltimore one again in October! I got 2nd 2 years ago so my goal is to train really hard and win this year.

Family Status: I just started seeing someone a couple months ago. He's actually doing his first tri in May and it is what motivated me to start focusing on triathlons again. I also have a little furbaby :-) an adorable cat named Raven (pic attached ).

Current Training: I started swimming last week! Once it gets warmer I will hit the roads on the bike and running again, but trying to ease into that.

2015 Races: None :-/ I've broken 2 bones in my life and both of them were in 2015...not my year

Races Planned: The only one I know I'm doing is the Baltimore Tri in October. Hope to do at least 2 others over the summer.

Beer Preference: You guys are going to think I'm not meant for this group when I tell you I gave up beer for lent. Not because I don't love it, but b/c I love it too much. Not being able to work out I have been feeling quite soft lately, so thought 40 days without beer while I start working out again would speed up the getting fit process. Last year you all opened my eyes to good beers though and I have branched out a lot. I don't like really hoppy beers, but will try anything these days.

Looking forward to catching up with everyone!



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Sorry for being away so long... I've been living a tela-novella for the last two weeks - hence my absence. Here's the short version for your amusement... (who had time to watch TV anyway?).

- I love my job due to a personality conflict with a coworker that wasn't my fault 12 days ago.
- Discovered 7 days ago that my 87 year old father had a car accident 3 weeks ago because he didn't have the strength in his leg to quickly hit the brake pedal. Luckily he has stopped driving.
- Also found out that my mother has fallen 3 times and hasn't always been able to get up (luckily - they have a home health care aid who came to the rescue.
- Found out on Monday of this week that my placement agency made a huge mistake that has not helped my candidacy
- On Tuesday - I found out that my bother needs triple bi pass surgery.
On Wednesday - Found out that my cousin is gay and leaving his wife.
On Thursday I came down with GI issues but still managed to train being sure to run around the field near the house.
Today my bother is having open heart surgery and my father is having a procedure to prep for his knee replacement. Spent 3 hours on phone yesterday with my mom convincing her to use a car service (family owned).

I could go on but I realize that people can only handle so much excitement in one day

I will try to be better about posting and will spend the weekend catching up. Stoked to see that we have the second most posts! Makes us even more b@d@$$
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Sorry for being away so long... I've been living a tela-novella for the last two weeks - hence my absence. Here's the short version for your amusement... (who had time to watch TV anyway?).

- I love my job due to a personality conflict with a coworker that wasn't my fault 12 days ago.
- Discovered 7 days ago that my 87 year old father had a car accident 3 weeks ago because he didn't have the strength in his leg to quickly hit the brake pedal. Luckily he has stopped driving.
- Also found out that my mother has fallen 3 times and hasn't always been able to get up (luckily - they have a home health care aid who came to the rescue.
- Found out on Monday of this week that my placement agency made a huge mistake that has not helped my candidacy
- On Tuesday - I found out that my bother needs triple bi pass surgery.
On Wednesday - Found out that my cousin is gay and leaving his wife.
On Thursday I came down with GI issues but still managed to train being sure to run around the field near the house.
Today my bother is having open heart surgery and my father is having a procedure to prep for his knee replacement. Spent 3 hours on phone yesterday with my mom convincing her to use a car service (family owned).

I could go on but I realize that people can only handle so much excitement in one day


I will try to be better about posting and will spend the weekend catching up. Stoked to see that we have the second most posts! Makes us even more b@d@$$

Sorry to hear this DQ. All of it.
Stay strong for family. Make sure you take time to take care of yourself. Ill be praying for you.

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2016-02-20 1:09 PM
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Nicole, welcome back!! No broken bones this year!!! Look forward to seeing you crush some tri's! Whoop whoop!!
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