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2008-05-08 10:10 AM
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Rynamite - 2008-05-07 11:07 AM

I'd like to agree.... but I can't. Girls' upper body strength isn't the same as boys'. The bodyweight ratio doesn't fix it.




Would you say it is 5 to 1 less? I wouldn't. That's what I'm saying.

Doesn't matter, though. I'm of the age that we were told constantly "we can do what you can do - we want the exact same treatment". They got it and didn't like it, I guess, so now it's back to "we're different and need to be treated as such."

Pick a message and stick with it!


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chadtower - 2008-05-08 10:00 AM 5 pushups? Geez. Our coaches used to make us drop and give them 25 if they just saw us in the hallway between classes.

Ummmmm, and you're a BOY. Der. =)

Should that matter? The girls were treated the same way. Girls weigh less so the concept is the same. It's a bodyweight exercise.

I'd like to agree.... but I can't. Girls' upper body strength isn't the same as boys'. The bodyweight ratio doesn't fix it.


Yup. Yet, generally, lower body ratios are about the same between girls and boys. Kinda funny.

i knew a guy once who was flabbergasted that i cannot do pullups.
2008-05-08 10:11 AM
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2008-05-08 10:11 AM
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lvthgme - 2008-05-08 8:04 AM
Aikidoman - 2008-05-08 10:03 AM
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Aikidoman - 2008-05-08 9:36 AM

Ever just want to get in your car and just drive away? (come back of course!)

Every once in a while on a prefect morning (like today), I want to jump on the motorcyle or get in the car and just drive into the desert.... Maybe stop at a small town diner and get some breakfast, listen to some tunes and see the country....

I never want to do that. I think about going for a run on a day like that. But not in the desert. I do not <3 the desert.

Oh, the desert is BEAUTIFUL my love.... I have been to my fair share of remote locations in this country (had the BEST summer job EVER...). There is so much beauty everywhere. The forest, the planes of the midwest, mtns, and the desert......

I've tried to lof it.  I just can't.  At least yet.   

Try arches natl. park in Utah and the "Ave. of the Saints".  I will take your breath away and bring tear to your eye.  It coud EVEN leave Ryna speachless, but that's asking a lot.....

2008-05-08 10:14 AM
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Subject: RE: TAN 24: TANgerine Speedo..
chadtower - 2008-05-08 10:10 AM

Rynamite - 2008-05-07 11:07 AM

I'd like to agree.... but I can't. Girls' upper body strength isn't the same as boys'. The bodyweight ratio doesn't fix it.




Would you say it is 5 to 1 less? I wouldn't. That's what I'm saying.

Doesn't matter, though. I'm of the age that we were told constantly "we can do what you can do - we want the exact same treatment". They got it and didn't like it, I guess, so now it's back to "we're different and need to be treated as such."

Pick a message and stick with it!

It all depends on the areas we're talking about. Physical differences aren't things you can really argue. i expect that people will accept that i'm not strong enough to do things guys can. At the same time, i'm better at math and science than most guys, and i fully expect that i should not be treated differently in the technical realm simply because i have breasts and a vagina.
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2008-05-08 10:20 AM
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The message was loud and consistent. That's what the message was to the boys at that time - "the girls can do what you can do, you are now required to treat them as such, and you are now required to give them every opportunity". We were even given lectures on this stuff specifically in health class.

Apparently every female teacher I had, every female coach I had, and most of the girls I grew up with were so dumb we can't even talk about them. I know times have changed but calling them that dumb isn't cool.

2008-05-08 10:22 AM
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TheSchwamm - 2008-05-08 8:14 AM
chadtower - 2008-05-08 10:10 AM
Rynamite - 2008-05-07 11:07 AM I'd like to agree.... but I can't. Girls' upper body strength isn't the same as boys'. The bodyweight ratio doesn't fix it.

 

Would you say it is 5 to 1 less? I wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. Doesn't matter, though. I'm of the age that we were told constantly "we can do what you can do - we want the exact same treatment". They got it and didn't like it, I guess, so now it's back to "we're different and need to be treated as such." Pick a message and stick with it!
It all depends on the areas we're talking about. Physical differences aren't things you can really argue. i expect that people will accept that i'm not strong enough to do things guys can. At the same time, i'm better at math and science than most guys, and i fully expect that i should not be treated differently in the technical realm simply because i have breasts and a vagina.

I agree with Schwammy.....  The "we can do what you can do - we want the exact same treatment". They got it and didn't like it, I guess, so now it's back to "we're different and need to be treated as such." Pick a message and stick with it!" argument is silly when it comes to pushups or other acts of physical stregth.

Women being asked to be treated as equals as human beings -  in day to day life is expected and should be done.  But to say they should be forced to do as many pushups as men to be "equal"?  Silly talk.

I can't even do more than 20 pushups on a good day.  So does that mean I should be treated on less than an equal basis of someone who could do 200?  Get paid less, be treated as "weaker?"  I think not....

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2008-05-08 10:24 AM
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Subject: RE: TAN 24: TANgerine Speedo..

geez... I need some popcorn...

I am amused.

DANCE MONKIES!  DANCE!  Entertain me! 

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lvthgme - 2008-05-08 11:09 AM Ryna, get outta my head.  There's barely room for me in here.

 

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2008-05-08 10:25 AM
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Oh no.  We may need to change this to TAS instead of TAN.  We CAN"T have that.  This is my only refuge......


2008-05-08 10:26 AM
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Subject: RE: TAN 24: TANgerine Speedo..
Rynamite - 2008-05-08 8:24 AM
Aikidoman - 2008-05-08 11:22 AM
TheSchwamm - 2008-05-08 8:14 AM
chadtower - 2008-05-08 10:10 AM
Rynamite - 2008-05-07 11:07 AM I'd like to agree.... but I can't. Girls' upper body strength isn't the same as boys'. The bodyweight ratio doesn't fix it.

 

Would you say it is 5 to 1 less? I wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. Doesn't matter, though. I'm of the age that we were told constantly "we can do what you can do - we want the exact same treatment". They got it and didn't like it, I guess, so now it's back to "we're different and need to be treated as such." Pick a message and stick with it!
It all depends on the areas we're talking about. Physical differences aren't things you can really argue. i expect that people will accept that i'm not strong enough to do things guys can. At the same time, i'm better at math and science than most guys, and i fully expect that i should not be treated differently in the technical realm simply because i have breasts and a vagina.

I agree with Schwammy.....  The "we can do what you can do - we want the exact same treatment". They got it and didn't like it, I guess, so now it's back to "we're different and need to be treated as such." Pick a message and stick with it!" argument is silly when it comes to pushups or other acts of physical stregth.

Women being asked to be treated as equals as human beings -  in day to day life is expected and should be done.  But to say they should be forced to do as many pushups as men to be "equal"?  Silly talk.

I can't even do more than 20 pushups on a good day.  So does that mean I should be treated on less than an equal basis of someone who could do 200?  Get paid less, be treated as "weaker?"  I think not....

Pffff, woman...

hah!

2008-05-08 10:26 AM
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2008-05-08 10:29 AM
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Subject: RE: TAN 24: TANgerine Speedo..

Hey,

how come no one asked me how tall I was or if I was married?  That has been bugging me for the last 24 hours.......

Oh, maybe because I tell everyone in just about every other post.  Nevermind.....  carry on.....

2008-05-08 10:29 AM
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2008-05-08 10:31 AM
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chadtower - 2008-05-08 10:20 AM


The message was loud and consistent. That's what the message was to the boys at that time - "the girls can do what you can do, you are now required to treat them as such, and you are now required to give them every opportunity". We were even given lectures on this stuff specifically in health class.

Apparently every female teacher I had, every female coach I had, and most of the girls I grew up with were so dumb we can't even talk about them. I know times have changed but calling them that dumb isn't cool.


i do not understand the connection (if any) between your first paragraph and your second.

i remember Barbie commercials that had the tagline, "We girls can do anything!" Well, that would have been about the time when i wanted to be a catholic priest when i grew up and then found out i couldn't be one 'cause i'm a girl. There have always been divisions between what males and females can do. There always will be. There's an awful lot of overlap, though, that many people do not want to acknowledge.


2008-05-08 10:31 AM
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BTW, all the desert talk got me thinking.....

I don't like to tell people that I'm racing cuz you get all the silly "good lucks" and crapola like that.  I do it for me, not to show off...

BUT, I'm heading to Utah for a race tomorrow and staying to visit Mt. Zion park.  It is AMAZING there.  Beautiful drives and hikes.  Staying at a hotel next to a river.  I'm SO stoked.  I almost don't want to race.  It's a shorty, so I should be done in just over a couple hours and then I can enjoy the weekend!  WOOT!!!!!!

2008-05-08 10:34 AM
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lvthgme - 2008-05-08 8:29 AM
Aikidoman - 2008-05-08 10:29 AM

Hey,

how come no one asked me how tall I was or if I was married? That has been bugging me for the last 24 hours.......

Oh, maybe because I tell everyone in just about every other post. Nevermind..... carry on.....

HAHAHAH...I didn't ask you that b/c I think I read your "decision" or whatever post before you came in here much.  Um...how tall are you? 

6'8" with big hands and feet.  You know what THAT means!!!!  .

remind me..  "decision" thread??????  I was fighting a lot those days.  I'm much happier now talking about nothing.....

2008-05-08 10:35 AM
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akustix - 2008-05-08 11:24 AM

geez... I need some popcorn...

I am amused.

DANCE MONKIES!  DANCE!  Entertain me! 

I LIKE MONKEYS
I like monkeys.

The pet store was selling them for five cents a piece.  I thought that
odd since they were normally a couple thousand each.  I decided not to
look a gift horse in the mouth.  I bought 200.  I like monkeys.

I took my 200 monkeys home.  I have a big car.  I let one drive.  His
name was Sigmund.  He was retarded.  In fact, none of them were really
bright.  They kept punching themselves in their genitals.  I laughed.
Then they punched my genitals.  I stopped laughing.

I herded them into my room.  They didn't adapt very well to their new
environment.  They would screech, hurl themselves off of the couch at
high speeds and slam into the wall.  Although humorous at first, the
spectacle lost its novelty halfway into its third hour.

Two hours later I found out why all the monkeys were so inexpensive:
they all died.  No apparent reason.  They all just sorta' dropped dead.
Kinda' like when you buy a goldfish and it dies five hours later.  Damn
cheap monkeys.

I didn't know what to do.  There were 200 dead monkeys lying all over my
room, on the bed, in the dresser, hanging from my bookcase. It looked
like I had 200 throw rugs.

I tried to flush one down the toilet.  It didn't work.  It got stuck.
Then I had one dead, wet monkey and 199 dead, dry monkeys.

I tried pretending that they were just stuffed animals.  That worked for
a while, that is until they began to decompose.  It started to smell real
bad.

I had to pee but there was a dead monkey in the toilet and I didn't want
to call the plumber.  I was embarrassed.

I tried to slow down the decomposition by freezing them.  Unfortunately
there was only enough room for two monkeys at a time so I had to change
them every 30 seconds.  I also had to eat all the food in the freezer so
it didn't all go bad.

I tried burning them.  Little did I know my bed was flammable.  I had to
extinguish the fire.

Then I had one dead, wet monkey in my toilet, two dead, frozen monkeys in
my freezer, and 197 dead, charred monkeys in a pile on my bed.  The odor
wasn't improving.

I became agitated at my inability to dispose of my monkeys and to use the
bathroom.  I severely beat one of my monkeys.  I felt better.

I tried throwing them way but the garbage man said that the city wasn't
allowed to dispose of charred primates.  I told him that I had a wet
one.  He couldn't take that one either.  I didn't bother asking about the
frozen ones.

I finally arrived at a solution.  I gave them out as Christmas gifts.  My
friends didn't know quite what to say.  They pretended that they like
them but I could tell they were lying.  Ingrates.  So I punched them in
the genitals.

I like monkeys



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