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2008-03-27 11:58 AM
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It all started like this. I bought this from my brother for a few quid. In the last week I've replaced gear levers & cables myself. It's a Triple 43/32/22t Seven gear freewheel 11-28t.

My neighbour (now cycling buddy) saw me going out on it. He presented me with a map, highlighting about eight climbs. "Try doing these", he suggested. So one day I did. Couldn't get up three climbs & had to push. 7 hours later with about 55 miles done (bonked as well) I reported back. He laughed. "I didn't mean all at once!". I still haven't forgiven him.

So I'd got the bug. I need a bike. So I couldn't get up some hills, (they were steep CHR15, and still are, before you start calling me a wimp) with a 22-28 easiest gear, a ratio of 1 to 0.78 (one turn of pedals to 3/4 turn back wheel i.e. very, very easy on flat). Looked around & was more interested in getting the gear ratio as close as possible to the above, than anything else.

Bought this. Claud Butler (piffing heavyweight) triple. 52/42/30t 14-28t. Ratio of easiest gear 1 to 1.07. I freaked. It's a harder bottom gear, but I kept away from the mega climbs for a while & didn't try eight in a row (learnt my lesson). Use this as a winter/training bike now. Sora 7 speed. Have replaced front wheel(front hub exploded with all ball bearings disappearing on a descent - scary), back axle broke & replaced twice, spokes snapped twice on rear wheel, so replaced both wheels with a set of Mavic Aksiums. Also replaced bottom bracket, brake pads (numerous times), saddle (after a 30+mph smash into a grassy bank covered with gorse), just recabled throughout & retaped handlebars.

Leslie, where I used to have to go in the bottom gear I use the 3rd or 4th now, or use the 1st gear with the middle ring (depending whether I've got the backpack on )

Didn't take me long to want a better one. Within 12 months I got myself this. Looked at Treks, Spec's, & was seriously contemplating a Giant when I saw an article in a mag. about the Flandria. Went on the website & you could basically build it up from certain options that were available. Just the job. Choice of four frames, any Campag or Shimano groupset , better wheels than were on ready made bikes, etc, etc. I took a long journey up to see the guy who was putting them together (just a one man outfit in a small unit), was very impressed & ordered one. My spec's. Aluminium frame with carbon forks & stays. Ultegra groupset, compact double 50/34t 12-27t 10 speed cassette. Easiest ratio is now 1 to 1.26. Can be hard graft on some hills but legs are getting stronger. If riding on flat I usually find myself in the Big ring. Who knows it may be that I can grow into a double sometime. What have I had to replace? Nothing. But see last comment.

 

One tiny bit of advice guys. Wash them down with a sponge with soapy water. I got a little too aggressive with the Muck Off type cleaner & hosepipe with No.2 bike. Knocked the gease out of the wheelhub, headset & bottom bracket. So some of the problems were of my own making.

Sorry to prattle on.

And just incase any of you are interested in browsing the website

http://www.flandriabikes.com/


2008-03-27 12:47 PM
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God! So much to know! That's pretty intimidating for me TBH.  I just want something that doesn't weigh 300lbs, cost too much and gets me from A to B and fits me correctly.  The other stuff. I know nothing about.
2008-03-27 1:08 PM
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ok, i don't really know how to answer the question you asked, so i went out and took some more pics, hopefully you can figure out the answer from the pics.
thanks for the diagram though, i'm copying it, so i can study it!! LOL
the hills around my neighborhood are pretty brutal, that's why i've been riding the stationary, it's a cheat i know, i'll have to get used to the hills eventually, but for now just getting on there and getting my legs used to riding is enough for me. the triathlon i'm signed up for in may is flat, so i'm not worried yet. i don't know how the course is for danskin though, so i'll have to start doing hills soon. dh said perhaps i could get that bike this summer sometime, so maybe i'll have a better bike to start hills with. might take me a sec to find the pics, but they're coming.



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2008-03-27 1:13 PM
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yeah, so there's 5 wheels in back, and 3 in front. i usually stay in the middle, don't think i've ever been brave enough to flip up or down on THAT one. but the other, i usually ride on the 3rd one, unless i'm going uphill, then i DO go all the way to the 1st one. but i'm a baby, and my legs just aren't used to working that way. i can run 10 miles and be fine, but i can't seem to get even around my block on my bike LOL
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2008-03-27 3:40 PM
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I have learned more today about bikes than I have ever thought possible!  Just don't quiz me, still in the uptake mode!  My bike is a 30/42/52 with 9 gears on the rear derailleur.  It is a Cannondale Synapse Women's bike. 

Here's a picture of it on my CycleOps trainer (pardon the messy garage!):

While I am it, here is my mountain bike.  Cheap as it is, it's been with me for many years over many miles:

And here are my kids' rides:

Ugh, the garage project is dying for intervention.  It always looks so much worse in photos!!!!! 

2008-03-27 3:49 PM
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4everblue - 2008-03-27 8:39 AM You ARE awesome!

You've started something off now. This could turn out to be a very long thread. I need to go & do some research on my gears to explain. BTW there are two types of Double. One's a Double (funnily enough) used by the pro's & hard men & people who don't have hills, the other's a compact double (closer to a triple in the ratios, Oh no! I talking about ratios now. The only thing you need to know about ratios is the higher the no. the harder it is to turn the pedals).

The more you ride the stronger your beautiful legs become & yes you will progress from a triple to a compact double & possibly then onto a double. Back later.

You mean these legs can get stronger?   

Seriously, THANK YOU ALL for the bike/gear info!!!!

2008-03-27 3:50 PM
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leslie, you're braver than me!! i wouldn't even go OUT to my garage with a camera!! much less RIDE in there!! my garage is hubby land, and i only go out there in dire emergencies


2008-03-27 4:21 PM
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Hey Peeps,

I was looking at our logs to see if there was unreported rides to add to the spreadsheet. In comparing the totals on our spreadsheet to the totals on our logs and found some errors of overstatement. By correcting them we've lost a bit of ground. Please double check everything and let me know if I botched it!

Including today (for those of you in western time zones) we have 5 days left in the challenge. Let's all hit our goals (or die trying

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2008-03-27 5:39 PM
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Medusa_Ann - 2008-03-27 9:49 PM
4everblue - 2008-03-27 8:39 AM You ARE awesome!

You've started something off now. This could turn out to be a very long thread. I need to go & do some research on my gears to explain. BTW there are two types of Double. One's a Double (funnily enough) used by the pro's & hard men & people who don't have hills, the other's a compact double (closer to a triple in the ratios, Oh no! I talking about ratios now. The only thing you need to know about ratios is the higher the no. the harder it is to turn the pedals).

The more you ride the stronger your beautiful legs become & yes you will progress from a triple to a compact double & possibly then onto a double. Back later.

You mean these legs can get stronger?

Seriously, THANK YOU ALL for the bike/gear info!!!!

Woo Hoo!!! Is that really you? Love the hair. Where is it you live? I'm booking a flight right now. Then I'm going to see the rest of you.



2008-03-27 5:42 PM
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lyssa-gator - 2008-03-27 9:50 PM leslie, you're braver than me!! i wouldn't even go OUT to my garage with a camera!! much less RIDE in there!! my garage is hubby land, and i only go out there in dire emergencies
Quite right Lyssa. It's definitely a man's domain. But you can play with my tool anytime !!! Oh Dear, did I really say that.
2008-03-27 6:00 PM
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LOL!!!
inDEED, i'm surprisingly good with tools
2008-03-27 6:04 PM
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4everblue - 2008-03-27 3:39 PM

Woo Hoo!!! Is that really you? Love the hair. Where is it you live? I'm booking a flight right now. Then I'm going to see the rest of you.

Washington State, that's where!  You'd be able to see all of us Pacific Northwest Girls.  Pick up Chr15 and come on over, and the rest of jousters should come as well.  We will have an official team meeting/party!    And I chopped the hair off recently....sorry!  15+ yrs of long hair, had to make a change.  The legs are still attached, though. 

2008-03-27 6:23 PM
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Sorry, I've just got to get this off my chest. Three gold medals & two World records by the GB team at the World Track Cycling Championships today. Woo Hoo! Just bring on the Olympics.

Anyone got the cash for one of those beauties?

2008-03-27 6:37 PM
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Medusa_Ann - 2008-03-28 12:04 AM
4everblue - 2008-03-27 3:39 PM

Woo Hoo!!! Is that really you? Love the hair. Where is it you live? I'm booking a flight right now. Then I'm going to see the rest of you.

Washington State, that's where! You'd be able to see all of us Pacific Northwest Girls. Pick up Chr15 and come on over, and the rest of jousters should come as well. We will have an official team meeting/party! And I chopped the hair off recently....sorry! 15+ yrs of long hair, had to make a change. The legs are still attached, though.

Ha! Found you via route planner. All those Street No's with no names. Is there any logic to them I ask myself. On our small estate all the roads are named after birds. I live in Goldfinch Drive don't you know. Puget Sound, I know that from somewhere but can't think why. Film? Tanker disaster? Natural history programme? It's bugging me that I can't remember.


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MDHillSlug - 2008-03-27 2:21 PM

Hey Peeps,

I was looking at our logs to see if there was unreported rides to add to the spreadsheet. In comparing the totals on our spreadsheet to the totals on our logs and found some errors of overstatement. By correcting them we've lost a bit of ground. Please double check everything and let me know if I botched it!

Including today (for those of you in western time zones) we have 5 days left in the challenge. Let's all hit our goals (or die trying )



Hey there

I have 4 hrs 20 min biking, which you have but also 5 hrs 15 minutes of spin class for March which I thought counted. Looks like my times been reduced to the actual outside riding time. Did I mess up? Hope not, pretty sure I'm not going to be getting in 3 hrs 40 minutes bike time outside. Let me know, I may have to beg mercy from Cat.

Karen
2008-03-27 6:50 PM
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chikopiakomak - 2008-03-27 4:42 PM

MDHillSlug - 2008-03-27 2:21 PM

Hey Peeps,

I was looking at our logs to see if there was unreported rides to add to the spreadsheet. In comparing the totals on our spreadsheet to the totals on our logs and found some errors of overstatement. By correcting them we've lost a bit of ground. Please double check everything and let me know if I botched it!

Including today (for those of you in western time zones) we have 5 days left in the challenge. Let's all hit our goals (or die trying )



Hey there

I have 4 hrs 20 min biking, which you have but also 5 hrs 15 minutes of spin class for March which I thought counted. Looks like my times been reduced to the actual outside riding time. Did I mess up? Hope not, pretty sure I'm not going to be getting in 3 hrs 40 minutes bike time outside. Let me know, I may have to beg mercy from Cat.

Karen


WHEW, I checked and it looks like spin class counts, so my total for March should be 9.58 hours instead of 4.33 YEAH!
Let me know if you want me to change it back. thanks!
2008-03-27 7:20 PM
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Medusa_Ann - 2008-03-27 3:49 PM

4everblue - 2008-03-27 8:39 AM You ARE awesome!

You've started something off now. This could turn out to be a very long thread. I need to go & do some research on my gears to explain. BTW there are two types of Double. One's a Double (funnily enough) used by the pro's & hard men & people who don't have hills, the other's a compact double (closer to a triple in the ratios, Oh no! I talking about ratios now. The only thing you need to know about ratios is the higher the no. the harder it is to turn the pedals).

The more you ride the stronger your beautiful legs become & yes you will progress from a triple to a compact double & possibly then onto a double. Back later.

You mean these legs can get stronger?   

Seriously, THANK YOU ALL for the bike/gear info!!!!



Nice picture, and nice view from up there, huh?
2008-03-27 7:35 PM
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4everblue - 2008-03-27 4:23 PM

Sorry, I've just got to get this off my chest. Three gold medals & two World records by the GB team at the World Track Cycling Championships today. Woo Hoo! Just bring on the Olympics.

Anyone got the cash for one of those beauties?


WOW! i don't know who they are, or what they're about, but they look hard core fast!! impressed i am.
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