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2011-01-17 8:15 AM
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Just finished bridge repeats with the team. The Rickenbacker Causeway here in Miami is our "hill". The team speedsters did longer tougher ones than me, but I was happy with the workout. HARD. 45 seconds up the bridge easy 4 times then harder 3 times.. then jog down easy. Warm up was 10 minutes easy jogging, then 40 yard strides x 3. Cool down 10 minutes of jogging then stretching. I need to figure out how to use my stopwatch on the Garmin. Scheduled to swim today also. Errands to run first.

Hope you Fuzzies are having a good MLK day. "The time is always right, to do what is right" ~ Martin Luther King Jr. 


2011-01-17 10:10 AM
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IceManScott - 2011-01-16 7:04 PM Oh and yes, will head to Madison a few time to do the course in real life.  That is one of the reasons I chose Madison over Louisville or Florida.   Close enough to go practice.  Plus Vision Quest leads rides there.  There are a lot of VQ athletes who do it.


Yep, on many of our rides we'd meet a VQ group.  Since you have the computrainer ride you will be familiar with the course, but riding it in person is quite the experience. Once I hit 43 mph on one of the down hills. Didn't know that until after I'd finished and checked my maximum speed.  At the time was too scared to do anything but keep my eyes on the road. 
2011-01-17 10:16 AM
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suzimmer - 2011-01-17 10:10 AM
IceManScott - 2011-01-16 7:04 PM Oh and yes, will head to Madison a few time to do the course in real life.  That is one of the reasons I chose Madison over Louisville or Florida.   Close enough to go practice.  Plus Vision Quest leads rides there.  There are a lot of VQ athletes who do it.


Yep, on many of our rides we'd meet a VQ group.  Since you have the computrainer ride you will be familiar with the course, but riding it in person is quite the experience. Once I hit 43 mph on one of the down hills. Didn't know that until after I'd finished and checked my maximum speed.  At the time was too scared to do anything but keep my eyes on the road. 


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2011-01-17 10:24 AM
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Day off from school today.  Smile (Not that I don't love my students, but a day off is always welcome - although one of my little guys said last week "Mrs. Zimmer I don't like days off, I like school!"  Made me smile and warmed my heart. )

Monday is usually my day off, however I have to attend a conference this Friday and Saturday and so will be unable to get in my usual workouts so was thinking of doing a strength and core workout today.  Then I woke up with a slight headache and very tired. My husband has a cold, as do most of my students so I'm trying hard to stay healthy. Fortunately since it's a day off, I could sleep a bit later and decided that maybe what my body needed was some rest.  Of course, now I'm feeling a bit better and of course rethinking the rest idea.  HELP!  I know rest is important.  In fact, I think it should be considered the 5th element of training.  (swim, bike, run, eat, REST)  but then the OCD part of me kicks in.  The P90X ab ripper is just waiting for me.  I'm going to do some laundry and get some stuff done for school and hope that good sense prevails.  A few extra days off this week will not be horrible and actually could do some good - right?
 
2011-01-17 11:05 AM
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suzimmer - 2011-01-17 11:24 AM Day off from school today.  Smile (Not that I don't love my students, but a day off is always welcome - although one of my little guys said last week "Mrs. Zimmer I don't like days off, I like school!"  Made me smile and warmed my heart. )

Monday is usually my day off, however I have to attend a conference this Friday and Saturday and so will be unable to get in my usual workouts so was thinking of doing a strength and core workout today.  Then I woke up with a slight headache and very tired. My husband has a cold, as do most of my students so I'm trying hard to stay healthy. Fortunately since it's a day off, I could sleep a bit later and decided that maybe what my body needed was some rest.  Of course, now I'm feeling a bit better and of course rethinking the rest idea.  HELP!  I know rest is important.  In fact, I think it should be considered the 5th element of training.  (swim, bike, run, eat, REST)  but then the OCD part of me kicks in.  The P90X ab ripper is just waiting for me.  I'm going to do some laundry and get some stuff done for school and hope that good sense prevails.  A few extra days off this week will not be horrible and actually could do some good - right?
 

I was going to swim... did my workout this morning...I should rest, I've been sick. Went to pick up my new running shoes. Now I'm sitting here.. cold rain outside, supposed to have thunderstorms. I should organize my messy bedroom and closet. But the P90x is calling to me. Hmmm. It's only noon! I hear you... YES you should rest Suz.... 
2011-01-17 11:57 AM
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I dreamt last night that I beat Paula Radcliffe in the Olympic Half Marathon even though I stopped at mile ten to put together and eat a gilled chicken salad...ha!

Happy training day to everyone today.  Those of you that are not feeling so well or just coming off not feeling so well...take it easy--we all want you back to full strength!


2011-01-17 1:58 PM
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Ok I have an acupunture consultation on Friday. The guy seemed very nice and informative. Will see what works for me. Other than that I just seem to have this overwhelming feeling of grief hanging over me. I dont know how or why but I'm thinking of upping my vit D intake just for a bit. Think that would work???
2011-01-17 2:09 PM
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I take D everyday. 

A lot of things can impact emotions.  Not enough sleep.  Long winters with gray days.  Not the right vitamins.  Not eating right.  Ever since I started this endurance/weight loss stuff in 2005 I've tried to do a daily inventory of how I'm feeling and adjust what I think needs to be adjusted.  The sleep is key for me.  BUT, I never surrender to emotions.  They are what they are but I need to work right through them and not let them dominate me.  In the final analysis, I am what I do, not what I feel. 

I know quitting it tough.  But stick with it.  Quitting is tough, but fighting cancer is tougher.  I've done both, I know. 
2011-01-17 2:15 PM
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My husband and I bought a light box for Xmas but it was broken and the last one .
2011-01-17 4:48 PM
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Triathlynne - 2011-01-17 3:15 PM My husband and I bought a light box for Xmas but it was broken and the last one .


When I quit it was with the help of Rush Presbyterian St Lukes in Chicago. Cold Turkey. After 1,2 or 3 days (everyone is different) you are physiologically over it. The rest is in your head. So, physically...

Anyway if you'd like to learn more about what I learned, just let me know. But seriously, you just have to stop. Ditch the smokes, take lots of deep breaths, brush your teeth, clean up your house...exercise... wash that nasty filthy habit OUT of your life. May 2nd it's 16 years for me. 
2011-01-17 5:26 PM
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suzimmer - 2011-01-17 10:24 AM Day off from school today.  Smile (Not that I don't love my students, but a day off is always welcome - although one of my little guys said last week "Mrs. Zimmer I don't like days off, I like school!"  Made me smile and warmed my heart. )

Monday is usually my day off, however I have to attend a conference this Friday and Saturday and so will be unable to get in my usual workouts so was thinking of doing a strength and core workout today.  Then I woke up with a slight headache and very tired. My husband has a cold, as do most of my students so I'm trying hard to stay healthy. Fortunately since it's a day off, I could sleep a bit later and decided that maybe what my body needed was some rest.  Of course, now I'm feeling a bit better and of course rethinking the rest idea.  HELP!  I know rest is important.  In fact, I think it should be considered the 5th element of training.  (swim, bike, run, eat, REST)  but then the OCD part of me kicks in.  The P90X ab ripper is just waiting for me.  I'm going to do some laundry and get some stuff done for school and hope that good sense prevails.  A few extra days off this week will not be horrible and actually could do some good - right?
 


A few extra days of rest definately will not hurt.  As I keep getting told most plans include extra random rest days.  But if you are stressing about not working out (which I do on unplanned rest days) do a 1/2 work out instead of the whole thing.  You get extra rest without the guilt from doing "nothing".


2011-01-17 5:32 PM
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Triathlynne - 2011-01-17 1:58 PM Ok I have an acupunture consultation on Friday. The guy seemed very nice and informative. Will see what works for me. Other than that I just seem to have this overwhelming feeling of grief hanging over me. I dont know how or why but I'm thinking of upping my vit D intake just for a bit. Think that would work???


January is an icky dreary month for most people anyway.  Don't sweat it.  Vitamin D may help but I find just getting outside for a walk helps alot (Natural Vitamin D).  Since I have to do all of my training outside I have found that I am a LOT less depressed than I used to be.  Being an extremely emotional person I get the whole roller coaster ride, generally the highs make up for the lows.  If you have to, wallow for a day or two and then shake yourself and say enough.
2011-01-17 5:57 PM
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Triathlynne - 2011-01-17 11:58 AM Ok I have an acupunture consultation on Friday. The guy seemed very nice and informative. Will see what works for me. Other than that I just seem to have this overwhelming feeling of grief hanging over me. I dont know how or why but I'm thinking of upping my vit D intake just for a bit. Think that would work???


I'm also an ex-smoker.  I smoked from around age 16 to age 23.  Started with just a few puffs and at the end was smoking a few packs a day.  I was even smoking unfiltered cigs, rolling my own quite often.  I quit one day simply because I realized finally how horrible this was for my long term health.  It was hard and I had a few incidents where I smoked, usually after a few drinks, but I overcame it.  You can too.  No doubt about it!  Just don't quit trying to quit.
2011-01-17 7:12 PM
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ingleshteechur - 2011-01-17 9:57 AM I dreamt last night that I beat Paula Radcliffe in the Olympic Half Marathon even though I stopped at mile ten to put together and eat a gilled chicken salad...ha!

Happy training day to everyone today.  Those of you that are not feeling so well or just coming off not feeling so well...take it easy--we all want you back to full strength!

 

At least you only stopped to make a salad and not pee. LOL

2011-01-17 8:15 PM
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Did take the day off and I'm feeling just fine.  Actually had a nice, very low key day.  The weather was yucky so didn't really want to go outside anyway. Tackled a few projects around the house that I had been putting off which felt good.  Back to the old grind tomorrow.  Up at 4:45.

 
2011-01-17 8:45 PM
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50 min run on the treadmill, 30 min free weights, weight machine, yoga and stretching.  Swim in the morning (speed drills) and then 90-min bike workout after work. 


2011-01-17 9:09 PM
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McFuzz and Fuzzettes, I have a question about half marathons. I have my first in 7 weeks. The farthest I've run recently is 6 miles, I did that last week. I don't know if I can bump my mileage up to 13 miles in such a short period, that would mean adding almost a mile a week to get to my goal. Ack, not going to happen. What if I trained to run 10 miles, could I count on race day adrenaline to get me through the last few miles? Have any of you done this? I'm afraid I'll be under trained for this race but I won a spot in a lottery and paid for it. Its been a goal of mine for a while (injuries prevented me from starting my training earlier) but here I am, 7 weeks out and still need to build up substantial mileage : /








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2011-01-17 9:18 PM
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I ran 14 miles once before my HIM.  Unnecessary, I think.  But maybe one of the others has a better idea.  It is what it is.  They key to a good run is a good bike.  If you are able to get through the 56 miles with your legs in decent shape and you can do 10 miles, you can do 13.1, maybe not as fast as you'd like, but you can finish. Just my opinion though.
2011-01-17 9:31 PM
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Corncub - 2011-01-17 9:09 PM McFuzz and Fuzzettes, I have a question about half marathons. I have my first in 7 weeks. The farthest I've run recently is 6 miles, I did that last week. I don't know if I can bump my mileage up to 13 miles in such a short period, that would mean adding almost a mile a week to get to my goal. Ack, not going to happen. What if I trained to run 10 miles, could I count on race day adrenaline to get me through the last few miles? Have any of you done this? I'm afraid I'll be under trained for this race but I won a spot in a lottery and paid for it. Its been a goal of mine for a while (injuries prevented me from starting my training earlier) but here I am, 7 weeks out and still need to build up substantial mileage : /








Check out Hal Higdon's novice HM plan.  The longest run is 10 miles, you are at 7 weeks out and are up to 6 miles you can easily finish his plan http://www.halhigdon.com/halfmarathon/ (or some variation)

not a problem - you can do it!
2011-01-17 9:34 PM
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Off of a 5 day weekend mini vacation with family.  Went down to Denver and spent some time downtown having a fantastic time. Today spent the day working on our house. So no working out since Thursday. Tomorrow will be hard, but definately necessary to get back in the groove of things.  not sure what I will do yet???


I hope everyone had a great weekend and are continuing on toward their goals!
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Thanks Robin, that plan looks close to what I've been doing. I guess if you can do 10, you can do 13.
I'm not psyched going into a race under-trained hopefully it wont be too bad (as in painful or disappointing)


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Question for the IM distance experienced ones... 

would it be a good idea for me to plan to run a shorter distance Tri before the Full Vineman in July?  I've only raced in sprints (6 of them last year) so although I'm familar with transitions and the pace, strategy, nutrition for those shorter events, I'm wondering if there's a benefit to doing something a bit longer like an Oly or HIM. 

My training is going to allow me to experiment with nutrition and pacing for the longer segments so I don't know if it's worth it to spend the time, effort, and dollars to do shorter tri before the Vineman?

Thoughts?

2011-01-18 5:21 AM
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Corncub - 2011-01-17 9:09 PM McFuzz and Fuzzettes, I have a question about half marathons. I have my first in 7 weeks. The farthest I've run recently is 6 miles, I did that last week. I don't know if I can bump my mileage up to 13 miles in such a short period, that would mean adding almost a mile a week to get to my goal. Ack, not going to happen. What if I trained to run 10 miles, could I count on race day adrenaline to get me through the last few miles? Have any of you done this? I'm afraid I'll be under trained for this race but I won a spot in a lottery and paid for it. Its been a goal of mine for a while (injuries prevented me from starting my training earlier) but here I am, 7 weeks out and still need to build up substantial mileage : /


If you can build to 10 or 11 miles, you shouldn't have too much trouble finishing the race.  In fact, 10-12 is probably the longest run in most half-marathon plans. 

Just be conservative in the first half of the race (when it's easy to get caught up in the crowd).  You can turn it on the last 5K if you're feeling great. 
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ecpasos - 2011-01-17 10:42 PM

Question for the IM distance experienced ones... 

would it be a good idea for me to plan to run a shorter distance Tri before the Full Vineman in July?  I've only raced in sprints (6 of them last year) so although I'm familar with transitions and the pace, strategy, nutrition for those shorter events, I'm wondering if there's a benefit to doing something a bit longer like an Oly or HIM. 

My training is going to allow me to experiment with nutrition and pacing for the longer segments so I don't know if it's worth it to spend the time, effort, and dollars to do shorter tri before the Vineman?

Thoughts?



IMO, there is little value doing a shorter race (sprint/OLY) ahead of an Ironman.  They're very different beasts.  A HIM?  Maybe, if there's time to recover.  If you decide to do a shorter race, my suggestion is to use it to practice pacing more than nutrition.  If you expect a 18 mph bike split for the Ironman, target an 18 mph bike split for the shorter race.  If you come in within 30 seconds (either way) of that target time, call it a success.  Yea, you could probably go faster (which is exactly what you'll be thinking in the first 30 miles of Vineman), but this lets you "race" according to your strategy, not that of the people whizzing by you. 

As for nutrition, work on it during your long rides/runs.  Then, assuming you've been consuming 250 calories/hour in training, back off that (to maybe 200) for the race.  The adrenaline and added pressure of the race might make it difficult to absorb that much.  You can always eat a few more calories, but if you've got too much just sitting in your stomach, nothing good will happen. 
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Also, IMO I don't think that it is necessary. I did a sprint 2 months before just for the fact that I had NEVER done a tri.  I wanted to see how the transitions were, etc... But since you've done alot last year you know what to expect. Believe me all the trainining will give you enough to focus on before race day!  Giddy up!!
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