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Crud - using the iPhone app and not sure how to quote...

Anywho - suggestion for challenge. Combine 3,6,7 as follows.

No credit for sick or injured days, but take them out of the total - so, final report for someone with 4 days of the flu but otherwise worked every day would be 27/27 rather than 27/31.

Prevents the type A's in the group from grinding themselves down to a nubbin (we should always be listening to our bodies, IMO - even though many of us have trouble doing so!). NB: tired or not in the mood is not sick.

As for banking, I'm in the "no" camp. I read this more as consistency than total number of workouts a month (get out there daily and do something, even if it's rolling).

My tuppence. G'night all!

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2014-12-11 2:56 AM
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Man I've got a real 1st world problem going on in my head.

So my plan for 2015 was:
14/12/14 Sprint Tri
01/02/15 Oly
15/03/15 Sprint Tri
maybe some other tris if they fit in around puppies
24/05/15 12k run
30/08/15 HM or Marathon not sure yet.

Now I just don't know what to do.
I was tossing up about the Oly date due to the distance I would need to drive to do the one on 01/02/15 and then today to top it off the run that I was going to do on 24/05/15 are adding a longer distance. I am expecting that it will be a half so now I'm thinking maybe I could do the Oly on 01/02/15 and then that would give me 16 weeks till the run. would that be enough time to train for a half if the goal is just to finish? My run base is fairly limited at this point I'm up to around 3 mile at a 4/1 run/walk.

Then i could do the Marathon on 30/08/15 which would be 14 weeks after the half.

Is this plan to ambitious? I need advice from some wiser heads than mine about what to do and then maybe how to structure the run training.

What do you think?
(I haven't even added in my thought about the new bike yet, cause one problem at a time.)
2014-12-11 4:19 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)
Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Crud - using the iPhone app and not sure how to quote...

Anywho - suggestion for challenge. Combine 3,6,7 as follows.

No credit for sick or injured days, but take them out of the total - so, final report for someone with 4 days of the flu but otherwise worked every day would be 27/27 rather than 27/31.

Prevents the type A's in the group from grinding themselves down to a nubbin (we should always be listening to our bodies, IMO - even though many of us have trouble doing so!). NB: tired or not in the mood is not sick.

As for banking, I'm in the "no" camp. I read this more as consistency than total number of workouts a month (get out there daily and do something, even if it's rolling).

My tuppence. G'night all!

Matt


Isn't the challenge you're all hashing out what was basically Jantastic last year? If I remember correctly, that didn't go too well and only seemed to work on the people who are consistent anyway. Kinda got poo pooed by a few people also.
2014-12-11 4:27 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK

Man I've got a real 1st world problem going on in my head.

So my plan for 2015 was:
14/12/14 Sprint Tri
01/02/15 Oly
15/03/15 Sprint Tri
maybe some other tris if they fit in around puppies
24/05/15 12k run
30/08/15 HM or Marathon not sure yet.

Now I just don't know what to do.
I was tossing up about the Oly date due to the distance I would need to drive to do the one on 01/02/15 and then today to top it off the run that I was going to do on 24/05/15 are adding a longer distance. I am expecting that it will be a half so now I'm thinking maybe I could do the Oly on 01/02/15 and then that would give me 16 weeks till the run. would that be enough time to train for a half if the goal is just to finish? My run base is fairly limited at this point I'm up to around 3 mile at a 4/1 run/walk.

Then i could do the Marathon on 30/08/15 which would be 14 weeks after the half.

Is this plan to ambitious? I need advice from some wiser heads than mine about what to do and then maybe how to structure the run training.

What do you think?
(I haven't even added in my thought about the new bike yet, cause one problem at a time.)


We all saw how busy you can get if puppies DO come along, so, bearing that in mind, IMHO, I would drop plans for the run on the 24/5/15 and aim for the HM on the 30/8. In that way, in the period between the 15/3 and the 30/8, you can concentrate on getting a good base in where you build up frequency and volume and THE HABIT of fitting in a run around puppies/work/life before tackling the HM with a plan for it 12 weeks out.
2014-12-11 7:37 AM
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Originally posted by Richardsdrr
Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Crud - using the iPhone app and not sure how to quote... Anywho - suggestion for challenge. Combine 3,6,7 as follows. No credit for sick or injured days, but take them out of the total - so, final report for someone with 4 days of the flu but otherwise worked every day would be 27/27 rather than 27/31. Prevents the type A's in the group from grinding themselves down to a nubbin (we should always be listening to our bodies, IMO - even though many of us have trouble doing so!). NB: tired or not in the mood is not sick. As for banking, I'm in the "no" camp. I read this more as consistency than total number of workouts a month (get out there daily and do something, even if it's rolling). My tuppence. G'night all! Matt
Isn't the challenge you're all hashing out what was basically Jantastic last year? If I remember correctly, that didn't go too well and only seemed to work on the people who are consistent anyway. Kinda got poo pooed by a few people also.

I could be wrong, but "getting your Jogo on" seemed to be fairly popular when I first came in. Maybe some people don't quite get all the days in, but are they becoming more consistent than before?

2014-12-11 7:42 AM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Ok so after a few rest days and a successful (pain free) swim yesterday and bike (drainer) today I'm contemplating how to get to the start line of my marathon in May. I'm wondering if I should scrap the Pfitz idea and go with something like this BT plan that starts out with less volume. It's a 20 week plan so theoretically I'd need to start next week but if the calf isn't ready yet (I haven't tried running even a few steps) then it would probably be easier to jump in to later then the Pfitz plan would be.

Thoughts?

I think what I would do would be to work on a nice base from whenever you start until  mid to end January ish. See how it goes and where you get. First start with frequency and then move up the mileage as you can.

Once you have a better idea of where you are at, start an actual "plan."

20 weeks of specific marathon training would likely be too much for me. Thus far, I am a fan of 16ish weeks. 

Yeah, I'd see how building back up so that you're consistently running again goes. During that time, still keep an eye out on a few plans and then see what may fit best after you have things going well again.



2014-12-11 8:05 AM
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Completely off topic

We have a radio in the kitchen.  One that mounts under the cabinet.  We got it a long time ago when iPods first came out.  It plays/charges older style iPods but not newer once.  It gets awful reception -- I use it for NPR but it can't get in sports radio.  It has stopped keeping time.  So we an undermount NPR-only radio that displays the incorrect time.  It's been driving me nuts so we are replacing it.

It seems that very few companies make under cabinet radios.  I count not find any locally.  I found one online and it seemed sort of OK but the comments were all This Thing Gets Terrible Reception or This Thing Does Not Keep Time.  So that would not solve the problem.

Then Kevin said, how about a wifi radio so I started looking at internet radios (all the channels that I want stream so this would work).  None are under cabinet but something smallish would work.  Anyway, I think that's the direction that we are going.

My question for you is:  What music streaming sources do you use?  Are any of the paid ones worth subscribing to?  Pandora, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM.  Spotify is not currently an option on the model that we are looking at.  I didn't view that as a deal breaker.

2014-12-11 8:21 AM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Richardsdrr
Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Crud - using the iPhone app and not sure how to quote... Anywho - suggestion for challenge. Combine 3,6,7 as follows. No credit for sick or injured days, but take them out of the total - so, final report for someone with 4 days of the flu but otherwise worked every day would be 27/27 rather than 27/31. Prevents the type A's in the group from grinding themselves down to a nubbin (we should always be listening to our bodies, IMO - even though many of us have trouble doing so!). NB: tired or not in the mood is not sick. As for banking, I'm in the "no" camp. I read this more as consistency than total number of workouts a month (get out there daily and do something, even if it's rolling). My tuppence. G'night all! Matt
Isn't the challenge you're all hashing out what was basically Jantastic last year? If I remember correctly, that didn't go too well and only seemed to work on the people who are consistent anyway. Kinda got poo pooed by a few people also.

I could be wrong, but "getting your Jogo on" seemed to be fairly popular when I first came in. Maybe some people don't quite get all the days in, but are they becoming more consistent than before?

I think that part of the problem with Jantastic was going to another site to log your stuff.

2014-12-11 8:23 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Man I've got a real 1st world problem going on in my head. So my plan for 2015 was: 14/12/14 Sprint Tri 01/02/15 Oly 15/03/15 Sprint Tri maybe some other tris if they fit in around puppies 24/05/15 12k run 30/08/15 HM or Marathon not sure yet. Now I just don't know what to do. I was tossing up about the Oly date due to the distance I would need to drive to do the one on 01/02/15 and then today to top it off the run that I was going to do on 24/05/15 are adding a longer distance. I am expecting that it will be a half so now I'm thinking maybe I could do the Oly on 01/02/15 and then that would give me 16 weeks till the run. would that be enough time to train for a half if the goal is just to finish? My run base is fairly limited at this point I'm up to around 3 mile at a 4/1 run/walk. Then i could do the Marathon on 30/08/15 which would be 14 weeks after the half. Is this plan to ambitious? I need advice from some wiser heads than mine about what to do and then maybe how to structure the run training. What do you think? (I haven't even added in my thought about the new bike yet, cause one problem at a time.)

It sounds like your heart isn't in the Oly and that you are more focused on the runs later in the year.  Is that correct?  If so, can you find a sprint in February that would work?  Or is the Oly one of your goals but not this particular one?  As for if this is too ambitious, it depends on when you start to build your run and if you can continue to run should puppies be in your future.

December - Sprint
February - Sprint (Oly?)
March - Sprint
Puppies?
May - 12k run
August - HM (21.1k) or Marathon (42.2k)

2014-12-11 9:37 AM
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Originally posted by jmkizer

Completely off topic

We have a radio in the kitchen.  One that mounts under the cabinet.  We got it a long time ago when iPods first came out.  It plays/charges older style iPods but not newer once.  It gets awful reception -- I use it for NPR but it can't get in sports radio.  It has stopped keeping time.  So we an undermount NPR-only radio that displays the incorrect time.  It's been driving me nuts so we are replacing it.

It seems that very few companies make under cabinet radios.  I count not find any locally.  I found one online and it seemed sort of OK but the comments were all This Thing Gets Terrible Reception or This Thing Does Not Keep Time.  So that would not solve the problem.

Then Kevin said, how about a wifi radio so I started looking at internet radios (all the channels that I want stream so this would work).  None are under cabinet but something smallish would work.  Anyway, I think that's the direction that we are going.

My question for you is:  What music streaming sources do you use?  Are any of the paid ones worth subscribing to?  Pandora, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM.  Spotify is not currently an option on the model that we are looking at.  I didn't view that as a deal breaker.

Many houses here are built out of that white Texas stone (caliche type stuff).  Nice to look at, but not great for radio reception in an interior kitchen!  So, we've gone from an undermount kitchen cabinet tv/radio to just using a small Bose speaker that accepts either an iPhone or an ipad (or, I'm sure, an ipod) and streaming music and NPR.

We use the house wifi for NPR right from their website, download the occasional podcast (you have to listen to Serial - really!), play music from our iTunes playlists or stream from Pandora.

Works very well for us.  The speakers weren't cheap, but they sound great, take up very little space, accept lots of different inputs and have lasted years.

YMMV - good luck!

Matt

2014-12-11 9:43 AM
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Originally posted by brigby1

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Ok so after a few rest days and a successful (pain free) swim yesterday and bike (drainer) today I'm contemplating how to get to the start line of my marathon in May. I'm wondering if I should scrap the Pfitz idea and go with something like this BT plan that starts out with less volume. It's a 20 week plan so theoretically I'd need to start next week but if the calf isn't ready yet (I haven't tried running even a few steps) then it would probably be easier to jump in to later then the Pfitz plan would be.

Thoughts?

I think what I would do would be to work on a nice base from whenever you start until  mid to end January ish. See how it goes and where you get. First start with frequency and then move up the mileage as you can.

Once you have a better idea of where you are at, start an actual "plan."

20 weeks of specific marathon training would likely be too much for me. Thus far, I am a fan of 16ish weeks. 

Yeah, I'd see how building back up so that you're consistently running again goes. During that time, still keep an eye out on a few plans and then see what may fit best after you have things going well again.

Thanks to both of you! I was worried about starting my marathon plan that late so it's good to hear that you both think I should ease in to it then find a plan in the new year. If I stay pain free the next few days I'm going to "give it a go" for a super-duper-easy-super-short run on Monday.



2014-12-11 9:55 AM
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Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Originally posted by jmkizer

Completely off topic

We have a radio in the kitchen.  One that mounts under the cabinet.  We got it a long time ago when iPods first came out.  It plays/charges older style iPods but not newer once.  It gets awful reception -- I use it for NPR but it can't get in sports radio.  It has stopped keeping time.  So we an undermount NPR-only radio that displays the incorrect time.  It's been driving me nuts so we are replacing it.

It seems that very few companies make under cabinet radios.  I count not find any locally.  I found one online and it seemed sort of OK but the comments were all This Thing Gets Terrible Reception or This Thing Does Not Keep Time.  So that would not solve the problem.

Then Kevin said, how about a wifi radio so I started looking at internet radios (all the channels that I want stream so this would work).  None are under cabinet but something smallish would work.  Anyway, I think that's the direction that we are going.

My question for you is:  What music streaming sources do you use?  Are any of the paid ones worth subscribing to?  Pandora, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM.  Spotify is not currently an option on the model that we are looking at.  I didn't view that as a deal breaker.

Many houses here are built out of that white Texas stone (caliche type stuff).  Nice to look at, but not great for radio reception in an interior kitchen!  So, we've gone from an undermount kitchen cabinet tv/radio to just using a small Bose speaker that accepts either an iPhone or an ipad (or, I'm sure, an ipod) and streaming music and NPR.

We use the house wifi for NPR right from their website, download the occasional podcast (you have to listen to Serial - really!), play music from our iTunes playlists or stream from Pandora.

Works very well for us.  The speakers weren't cheap, but they sound great, take up very little space, accept lots of different inputs and have lasted years.

YMMV - good luck!

Matt

I'm with Matt on this. I have a sound bar on the TV that runs bluetooth, so we can connect our phones/tablet/etc.  We use Pandora and iHeart Radio, as well as an occasional direct website. It has worked so well that we are looking into a small BT speaker like this or one of the others mentioned. Maybe something quite portable so that it can go anywhere with us if needed. 

How does NPR work from their site? Do they have an android app for the phone or is it available that way? I have been using the phone now for more stuff (not BT though).

 

2014-12-11 9:58 AM
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Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Originally posted by jmkizer

Completely off topic

We have a radio in the kitchen.  One that mounts under the cabinet.  We got it a long time ago when iPods first came out.  It plays/charges older style iPods but not newer once.  It gets awful reception -- I use it for NPR but it can't get in sports radio.  It has stopped keeping time.  So we an undermount NPR-only radio that displays the incorrect time.  It's been driving me nuts so we are replacing it.

It seems that very few companies make under cabinet radios.  I count not find any locally.  I found one online and it seemed sort of OK but the comments were all This Thing Gets Terrible Reception or This Thing Does Not Keep Time.  So that would not solve the problem.

Then Kevin said, how about a wifi radio so I started looking at internet radios (all the channels that I want stream so this would work).  None are under cabinet but something smallish would work.  Anyway, I think that's the direction that we are going.

My question for you is:  What music streaming sources do you use?  Are any of the paid ones worth subscribing to?  Pandora, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM.  Spotify is not currently an option on the model that we are looking at.  I didn't view that as a deal breaker.

Many houses here are built out of that white Texas stone (caliche type stuff).  Nice to look at, but not great for radio reception in an interior kitchen!  So, we've gone from an undermount kitchen cabinet tv/radio to just using a small Bose speaker that accepts either an iPhone or an ipad (or, I'm sure, an ipod) and streaming music and NPR.

We use the house wifi for NPR right from their website, download the occasional podcast (you have to listen to Serial - really!), play music from our iTunes playlists or stream from Pandora.

Works very well for us.  The speakers weren't cheap, but they sound great, take up very little space, accept lots of different inputs and have lasted years.

YMMV - good luck!

Matt

I'm with Matt on this. I have a sound bar on the TV that runs bluetooth, so we can connect our phones/tablet/etc.  We use Pandora and iHeart Radio, as well as an occasional direct website. It has worked so well that we are looking into a small BT speaker like this or one of the others mentioned. Maybe something quite portable so that it can go anywhere with us if needed. 

How does NPR work from their site? Do they have an android app for the phone or is it available that way? I have been using the phone now for more stuff (not BT though).

 

wrt NPR, we stream WKUT (local station) from their website.  Easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy, if you know what I mean. 

 

 

Ugh, I need more sleep... 

Matt

2014-12-11 10:04 AM
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Quick hello from me, since we've left the home base. 

I'm in on whatever for the 30 in 30 challenge. For me, it is all about the consistency. I know that I'll be steady for the next 10 or so weeks, due to HM plan. So it ties in and helps keep me on task. 

I think that any challenge has to be taken on smartly, and with forethought. If it ties in with your goals, then good, if not (like Jantastic for me last year) then that's OK too. Do what works for you.

I'm off to see Santa and Mickey. I'll keep reading along and check in when I can.

2014-12-11 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Originally posted by jmkizer

Completely off topic

We have a radio in the kitchen.  One that mounts under the cabinet.  We got it a long time ago when iPods first came out.  It plays/charges older style iPods but not newer once.  It gets awful reception -- I use it for NPR but it can't get in sports radio.  It has stopped keeping time.  So we an undermount NPR-only radio that displays the incorrect time.  It's been driving me nuts so we are replacing it.

It seems that very few companies make under cabinet radios.  I count not find any locally.  I found one online and it seemed sort of OK but the comments were all This Thing Gets Terrible Reception or This Thing Does Not Keep Time.  So that would not solve the problem.

Then Kevin said, how about a wifi radio so I started looking at internet radios (all the channels that I want stream so this would work).  None are under cabinet but something smallish would work.  Anyway, I think that's the direction that we are going.

My question for you is:  What music streaming sources do you use?  Are any of the paid ones worth subscribing to?  Pandora, iHeartRadio, SiriusXM.  Spotify is not currently an option on the model that we are looking at.  I didn't view that as a deal breaker.

Many houses here are built out of that white Texas stone (caliche type stuff).  Nice to look at, but not great for radio reception in an interior kitchen!  So, we've gone from an undermount kitchen cabinet tv/radio to just using a small Bose speaker that accepts either an iPhone or an ipad (or, I'm sure, an ipod) and streaming music and NPR.

We use the house wifi for NPR right from their website, download the occasional podcast (you have to listen to Serial - really!), play music from our iTunes playlists or stream from Pandora.

Works very well for us.  The speakers weren't cheap, but they sound great, take up very little space, accept lots of different inputs and have lasted years.

YMMV - good luck!

Matt

I'm with Matt on this. I have a sound bar on the TV that runs bluetooth, so we can connect our phones/tablet/etc.  We use Pandora and iHeart Radio, as well as an occasional direct website. It has worked so well that we are looking into a small BT speaker like this or one of the others mentioned. Maybe something quite portable so that it can go anywhere with us if needed. 

How does NPR work from their site? Do they have an android app for the phone or is it available that way? I have been using the phone now for more stuff (not BT though).

 

Our local NPR station streams so that's not a problem.  National does as well but I was looking for local for news, etc.  I'm looking at the Grace Digital stuff.  Sonos is nice but I want buttons for kitchen use. 

2014-12-11 10:06 AM
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Hey guys, here is my Race Report

I lost it the first time, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

There is a huge windstorm hitting here. The boat is a little ...turbulent. Not seasick yet (I'm visiting my parents and they live on a houseboat on the river)

 



2014-12-11 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by cdban66

Quick hello from me, since we've left the home base. 

I'm in on whatever for the 30 in 30 challenge. For me, it is all about the consistency. I know that I'll be steady for the next 10 or so weeks, due to HM plan. So it ties in and helps keep me on task. 

I think that any challenge has to be taken on smartly, and with forethought. If it ties in with your goals, then good, if not (like Jantastic for me last year) then that's OK too. Do what works for you.

I'm off to see Santa and Mickey. I'll keep reading along and check in when I can.

Have fun! I'm loving the pix on FB! Disney is so pretty this time of year!

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Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hey guys, here is my Race Report

I lost it the first time, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

There is a huge windstorm hitting here. The boat is a little ...turbulent. Not seasick yet (I'm visiting my parents and they live on a houseboat on the river)

 

That's awesome!

ETA: Would you mind expanding on your comment about how running faster on the downhill affects you later? I've always just "let it go" on downhills because it's easy speed. Is this hurting my run later?



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2014-12-11 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hey guys, here is my Race Report

I lost it the first time, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

There is a huge windstorm hitting here. The boat is a little ...turbulent. Not seasick yet (I'm visiting my parents and they live on a houseboat on the river)

 

That's awesome!

ETA: Would you mind expanding on your comment about how running faster on the downhill affects you later? I've always just "let it go" on downhills because it's easy speed. Is this hurting my run later?

Sure, as I mentioned you can "let it go" and not resist the downhill and take advanage but it's easy to get caught up and simply go too fast. It's ok to be a little quicker than your projected pace but there is such thing as too fast and just like any time you get off pace too much, you pay for it later. 

 

Maybe I am not explaining it well...

2014-12-11 11:24 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)

I must be out of the loop!  I didn't know that Matt & Kim were a group!  That totally explains the move to Austin!  ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgBeu3FVi60

2014-12-11 11:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hey guys, here is my Race Report

I lost it the first time, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

There is a huge windstorm hitting here. The boat is a little ...turbulent. Not seasick yet (I'm visiting my parents and they live on a houseboat on the river)

 

That's awesome!

ETA: Would you mind expanding on your comment about how running faster on the downhill affects you later? I've always just "let it go" on downhills because it's easy speed. Is this hurting my run later?

Sure, as I mentioned you can "let it go" and not resist the downhill and take advanage but it's easy to get caught up and simply go too fast. It's ok to be a little quicker than your projected pace but there is such thing as too fast and just like any time you get off pace too much, you pay for it later. 

 

Maybe I am not explaining it well...

I'm sure most people understand I just have a hightened interest in hills



2014-12-11 11:41 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)

Originally posted by jmkizer

I must be out of the loop!  I didn't know that Matt & Kim were a group!  That totally explains the move to Austin!  ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgBeu3FVi60

I love matt and kim. Kim's drumming cracks me up 

2014-12-11 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hey guys, here is my Race Report

I lost it the first time, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

There is a huge windstorm hitting here. The boat is a little ...turbulent. Not seasick yet (I'm visiting my parents and they live on a houseboat on the river)

 

That's awesome!

ETA: Would you mind expanding on your comment about how running faster on the downhill affects you later? I've always just "let it go" on downhills because it's easy speed. Is this hurting my run later?

Sure, as I mentioned you can "let it go" and not resist the downhill and take advanage but it's easy to get caught up and simply go too fast. It's ok to be a little quicker than your projected pace but there is such thing as too fast and just like any time you get off pace too much, you pay for it later. 

 

Maybe I am not explaining it well...

I'm sure most people understand I just have a hightened interest in hills

A specific thing to think about (and this is not the only thing) is that running is a series of falls and recoveries. When  you are going downhill, that "fall" is even more impactful. Your muscles have to absorb more shock.

Also many people tend to override downhill, causing more stress of your body.

When running downhill it is important to stay relaxed and try not to over-stride. Keep your steps close to the ground, not bringing your knees up too high. Our coach has us focus on bringing our arms down with our hands more near our hips. This helps keep your knees from coming up. It's something you absolutely need to practice, too.

2014-12-11 11:53 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

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Sure, as I mentioned you can "let it go" and not resist the downhill and take advanage but it's easy to get caught up and simply go too fast. It's ok to be a little quicker than your projected pace but there is such thing as too fast and just like any time you get off pace too much, you pay for it later. 

 

Maybe I am not explaining it well...

I'm sure most people understand I just have a hightened interest in hills

A specific thing to think about (and this is not the only thing) is that running is a series of falls and recoveries. When  you are going downhill, that "fall" is even more impactful. Your muscles have to absorb more shock.

Also many people tend to override downhill, causing more stress of your body.

When running downhill it is important to stay relaxed and try not to over-stride. Keep your steps close to the ground, not bringing your knees up too high. Our coach has us focus on bringing our arms down with our hands more near our hips. This helps keep your knees from coming up. It's something you absolutely need to practice, too.

Hmmmm. Good point.

The Colorado Marathon goes from 6100 to 5400 with a few uphills thrown in for good measure   When we drove it last weekend I saw that there are a few steep downhills but it's mostly pretty gradual. Once I get to my long runs I have a route mapped out in Santa Fe that I think will mimick the steady down with a few ups thrown in, and about the same elevation.

2014-12-11 11:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors v.2 thr.3 CLOSED (Poptart/pet pic bribes considered)

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by Asalzwed

Hey guys, here is my Race Report

I lost it the first time, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

There is a huge windstorm hitting here. The boat is a little ...turbulent. Not seasick yet (I'm visiting my parents and they live on a houseboat on the river)

 

That's awesome!

ETA: Would you mind expanding on your comment about how running faster on the downhill affects you later? I've always just "let it go" on downhills because it's easy speed. Is this hurting my run later?

Sure, as I mentioned you can "let it go" and not resist the downhill and take advanage but it's easy to get caught up and simply go too fast. It's ok to be a little quicker than your projected pace but there is such thing as too fast and just like any time you get off pace too much, you pay for it later. 

 

Maybe I am not explaining it well...

I'm sure most people understand I just have a hightened interest in hills

A specific thing to think about (and this is not the only thing) is that running is a series of falls and recoveries. When  you are going downhill, that "fall" is even more impactful. Your muscles have to absorb more shock.

Also many people tend to override downhill, causing more stress of your body.

When running downhill it is important to stay relaxed and try not to over-stride. Keep your steps close to the ground, not bringing your knees up too high. Our coach has us focus on bringing our arms down with our hands more near our hips. This helps keep your knees from coming up. It's something you absolutely need to practice, too.

Yes, falling farther and overstriding tends to happen more easily. I also try to keep a light quick step, keeping cadence up to help keep from that tendency to bound more.

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