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2009-08-22 2:00 PM
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Just picked up my packet. I'll be #92, I had put in 6:10 for my swim time and feel happy with the seeding. See y'all out there tomorrow. Good luck.


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jeffwhite - 2009-08-21 10:41 PM

Ok..so I am a newbie, and you have me worried all of a sudden.  This is my first race, and I was excited until I read your rant about the new racers.  I have said it before...I dont want to be THAT guy...but at the same time, I can only put down the times that I have swam in practice...after all this is my very first race.  Will the jitters cause me to go slower?  Or will the adrenaline kick in and help my fly? 

I won't be anywhere near you if you swim a 1:40 pace (I registered with a total time of 8:40), but what if the person behind me is faster?  I certainly dont want to someone off on my first day...

Are you just blowing off steam?  Or is this something that I should be concerned about? 

Good luck this weekend...I promise to stay out of your way!!!  Thanks for any advice...



Jeff, don't be worried. With time of 8:00+ you will have people with the same abilities around you.

I only get annoyed when people don't let someone pass at the wall, or swim down the middle of the lane.

Also, since I swam competitively, I figure if someone has a faster time than me, they KNOW how to swim. Meaning: they can easily swim 350 meters WITHOUT resting. Seeing that I put under 5:00 for my swim, I think that's a pretty easy thing to ask for.... BUT there will be those people who just randomly guessed at a good time (aka: they swim it in really 8:00, but put down 4:00 because they had no clue what they were doing). You did not do that sir.

Now... have fun mister! Don't be worried. You will be fine back there. And come up and say hi to Tim and I! Please do, I would like to meet you.

PS- Everyone who talks with me about doing pool swims... well, they know... I'm more annoyed by them than most. I usually try to NOT do any races with pool swims, but this year my races haven't worked out that way. So I'm not the "normal" person out there. Most don't care as much as I do.


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my dog...alarm clock did not wake up until 640. I really wished to have been out this morning. How did everyone do?
2009-08-23 5:00 PM
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I would just like to say that I was bib #7 and actually ranked 7th overall for the swim... First time that has ever happened. Also - not sure how 2 girls, who did know how to swim, were in front of me! Always interesting to pass 2 people before the first wall!
2009-08-23 5:18 PM
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Are you sure you didn't pay them to get in and push you or something? You got me good, congrats. Looking forward to seeing how you do next week in Oh Canada. Do they have Subways up there?
TexTriGuy - 2009-08-23 5:00 PMI would just like to say that I was bib #7 and actually ranked 7th overall for the swim... First time that has ever happened. Also - not sure how 2 girls, who did know how to swim, were in front of me! Always interesting to pass 2 people before the first wall!
2009-08-23 5:30 PM
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So I was #113 and canonballed in.  I think that affected me because I ended up #158 in the end.  50m lanes are just huge, but I was only 12secs off my pace that I sent in.

Had a good race though, PR for me!!


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pauldavidbell - 2009-08-23 5:30 PM

So I was #113 and canonballed in.  I think that affected me because I ended up #158 in the end.  50m lanes are just huge, but I was only 12secs off my pace that I sent in.

Had a good race though, PR for me!!


Now that your PR race includes a cannonball, you must continue that trend in order to retain the purity of the sport and your PR!
2009-08-23 7:22 PM
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I think if more folks had canonballed in, maybe they would have PRs as well!
2009-08-23 10:30 PM
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TexTriGuy - 2009-08-23 5:00 PM

I would just like to say that I was bib #7 and actually ranked 7th overall for the swim... First time that has ever happened. Also - not sure how 2 girls, who did know how to swim, were in front of me! Always interesting to pass 2 people before the first wall!


I had fun watching #14 on the swim not have a swim cap or goggles... and doing the side stroke and breast stroke the whole way. Poor girl. She obviously had no clue what to put in as a swim time.

I got passed once. It was by the guy behind me. I think hung on his heels the entire swim. He and I went back and forth on the bike, I finally passed him on the run and never saw him again. (Till after the race and it was all good.)

Overall I had a fun race, but my times were slower than my last race. My excuse is that I rode 75 miles on Saturday. So yeah. HA!

2009-08-23 11:15 PM
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Ha, I didn't notice #14, was too busy watching #4 and #5 not being able to swim a complete lap, at least they stayed to the right and were easy to pass.
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TexTriGuy - 2009-08-23 5:00 PMI would just like to say that I was bib #7 and actually ranked 7th overall for the swim... First time that has ever happened. Also - not sure how 2 girls, who did know how to swim, were in front of me! Always interesting to pass 2 people before the first wall!
I had fun watching #14 on the swim not have a swim cap or goggles... and doing the side stroke and breast stroke the whole way. Poor girl. She obviously had no clue what to put in as a swim time. I got passed once. It was by the guy behind me. I think hung on his heels the entire swim. He and I went back and forth on the bike, I finally passed him on the run and never saw him again. (Till after the race and it was all good.) Overall I had a fun race, but my times were slower than my last race. My excuse is that I rode 75 miles on Saturday. So yeah. HA!
2009-08-24 8:10 AM
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#5 was the main one I noticed. Big entertainment there. She looked scared to death. Wow.

For those of you who don't know, the bike was actually about 12.8 miles. Playtri's site says 13, but the results say 12. The math for paces appears to have used 12.8 in the results, it's just the heading that says 12. If you're logging your stuff on BT or elsewhere, use the 12.8.


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I am suprised that Karen did not drown the slower swimmers in front of her!!    I was watching for that!!  I tried to find all of you, but forgot what numbers everone was.  I was a little overwelmed being my first one and all...

My swim was pretty good.  I passed 4 or 5 people.  The bike was fair, but the roads were scarry bad.  I almost fell in a couple of holes.  Got off the bike and ran to the water park...then I had to walk.  The cramps in my legs were terrible...I guess I need to brick a little more often to train for that!!  I spent the rest of the race in a jog/walk state...

I finished in 1:48:03...slow a crap, but a baseline for me to work from.  Thanks to everyone for all of your help.  It was a great experience and I am already looking forward to my next race!!!

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I was # 189 based on my swim time and finished ranked 188 in the swim.  Pretty accurate, but my time was much longer than I predicted - not sure why - 50yd lanes I guess.  Bike was good for me, but my weakest event.  I had a couple of bike wrecks since getting a new bike/pedals/shoes 2 weeks ago and I think I was a little timid.  I'll do better on that next time.  The run was actually pretty good for me - I was very happy with that!!  I had set a goal of 1:45 and finished at 1:45.23!!!  Dangit!!!  But for my first true sprint - I felt great.  I had previously done the "my first tri" in July.  Looking forward to the Blackland tri on labor day - I'm gonna improve for sure!!
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I was/am disappointed with my swim time as well....but since I normally swim in a yd pool I convert 350meters to yards it is 383...then if I add the lateral distance we had to swim which must have been another 20meters...that would make it about a 410yd swim.  And the timing mat at the beginning and at the end add a little time (I was out of the water before they put the extra mats down so I really took it slow on that slick deck).  Still not what I wanted, but makes it more acceptable. 

I can deduct :45 for the extra 60 yds, :02 for the start mat, and probably :10 for the ladder and deck run before the mat.  Plus add in another 3 seconds to round it up to a full minute with the extra pressure of Karen eyeballing everyone in front of her (haha).  Finished 15th in the water, although I know I could have been in the top 5 if I would have swam a bit better.

You should have seen my math justifying getting that 52" plasma, I actually made money on that deal in the end (in my mind)...hahahahaha
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jeffwhite - 2009-08-24 11:29 AM

I am suprised that Karen did not drown the slower swimmers in front of her!!    I was watching for that!!  I tried to find all of you, but forgot what numbers everone was.  I was a little overwelmed being my first one and all...

My swim was pretty good.  I passed 4 or 5 people.  The bike was fair, but the roads were scarry bad.  I almost fell in a couple of holes.  Got off the bike and ran to the water park...then I had to walk.  The cramps in my legs were terrible...I guess I need to brick a little more often to train for that!!  I spent the rest of the race in a jog/walk state...

I finished in 1:48:03...slow a crap, but a baseline for me to work from.  Thanks to everyone for all of your help.  It was a great experience and I am already looking forward to my next race!!!

J


HA! Funny!

Tim and I couldn't remember your number, so we never found you.

Yeah, there were some SERIOUS pot holes on that course. I was wondering how it would get with a lot of riders on it... hard to dodge stuff on the left with a guy on the right of you.

Hey, I walkes some on that run! It happens. Just think you will do better next time! Bricks... ride to run... are good training.


So I looked and I ranked #33 overall for the swim. I'll take that. My swim has been a little slow lately. I seem to have lost my speed.


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jeffwhite - 2009-08-24 11:29 AM I am suprised that Karen did not drown the slower swimmers in front of her!!    I was watching for that!!  I tried to find all of you, but forgot what numbers everone was.  I was a little overwelmed being my first one and all...

My swim was pretty good.  I passed 4 or 5 people.  The bike was fair, but the roads were scarry bad.  I almost fell in a couple of holes.  Got off the bike and ran to the water park...then I had to walk.  The cramps in my legs were terrible...I guess I need to brick a little more often to train for that!!  I spent the rest of the race in a jog/walk state...

I finished in 1:48:03...slow a crap, but a baseline for me to work from.  Thanks to everyone for all of your help.  It was a great experience and I am already looking forward to my next race!!!

J
HA! Funny! Tim and I couldn't remember your number, so we never found you. Yeah, there were some SERIOUS pot holes on that course. I was wondering how it would get with a lot of riders on it... hard to dodge stuff on the left with a guy on the right of you. Hey, I walkes some on that run! It happens. Just think you will do better next time! Bricks... ride to run... are good training. So I looked and I ranked #33 overall for the swim. I'll take that. My swim has been a little slow lately. I seem to have lost my speed.


If you ever want to swim sometime, let me know.  I could help push the pace and I would jump at the chance to swim with someone that swam competitively and actually knows what they are doing.  I have just been making up some sets on the fly and I don't really know any drills.


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Big_D - 2009-08-24 2:16 PM

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jeffwhite - 2009-08-24 11:29 AM I am suprised that Karen did not drown the slower swimmers in front of her!!    I was watching for that!!  I tried to find all of you, but forgot what numbers everone was.  I was a little overwelmed being my first one and all...

My swim was pretty good.  I passed 4 or 5 people.  The bike was fair, but the roads were scarry bad.  I almost fell in a couple of holes.  Got off the bike and ran to the water park...then I had to walk.  The cramps in my legs were terrible...I guess I need to brick a little more often to train for that!!  I spent the rest of the race in a jog/walk state...

I finished in 1:48:03...slow a crap, but a baseline for me to work from.  Thanks to everyone for all of your help.  It was a great experience and I am already looking forward to my next race!!!

J
HA! Funny! Tim and I couldn't remember your number, so we never found you. Yeah, there were some SERIOUS pot holes on that course. I was wondering how it would get with a lot of riders on it... hard to dodge stuff on the left with a guy on the right of you. Hey, I walked some on that run! It happens. Just think you will do better next time! Bricks... ride to run... are good training. So I looked and I ranked #33 overall for the swim. I'll take that. My swim has been a little slow lately. I seem to have lost my speed.


If you ever want to swim sometime, let me know.  I could help push the pace and I would jump at the chance to swim with someone that swam competitively and actually knows what they are doing.  I have just been making up some sets on the fly and I don't really know any drills.


Uh, you would kick my butt in the pool man! You swim faster than I do!

But I swim at Lifetime Fitness off Trinity Mills- Monday and Wednesday evenings. I try to run first and get in at 7:30 PM when the water arobics class has cleared out.

You... or anyone is welcome to join me anytime. I think I need someone to swim with to get my butt moving faster.

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I have some short distance speed and could help push you faster, and you have the technique and knowledge to help me swim better.  Would be a good balance and trade off.  But the downfall is Lifetime  They are too proud of their facilities for me $$$.  Mondays at that time would work for me, would just have to figure out location that works.

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Uh, you would kick my butt in the pool man! You swim faster than I do! But I swim at Lifetime Fitness off Trinity Mills- Monday and Wednesday evenings. I try to run first and get in at 7:30 PM when the water arobics class has cleared out. You... or anyone is welcome to join me anytime. I think I need someone to swim with to get my butt moving faster.




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Yeah, location would be the key then.

I'm not sure I could help you much though. You seem to be plenty fast. I'm the slow one out of us! HA!

See my challenge is that I run before my swim... and I won't run outdoors when it's 100+ degrees. I have my limits. So I need a treadmill for 30 or so minutes... and then a pool. If you find a location I would be down.

I agree, LTF is pricey- but the Bronze membership (1 club only) wasn't TOO bad. Since I ditched the coach this year, it was my "splurge" (because I LOVE swimming in WARM water!).

Big_D - 2009-08-24 3:02 PM

I have some short distance speed and could help push you faster, and you have the technique and knowledge to help me swim better.  Would be a good balance and trade off.  But the downfall is Lifetime  They are too proud of their facilities for me $$$.  Mondays at that time would work for me, would just have to figure out location that works.

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Uh, you would kick my butt in the pool man! You swim faster than I do! But I swim at Lifetime Fitness off Trinity Mills- Monday and Wednesday evenings. I try to run first and get in at 7:30 PM when the water arobics class has cleared out. You... or anyone is welcome to join me anytime. I think I need someone to swim with to get my butt moving faster.


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You have to spoil yourself every now and then.  I don't like the 24hr pool I train at, but I like the $99/year multiple club deal I worked (come to think of it, it is a little chilly, but not too bad lol).  I will send you a message if I come up with anything, no more annoying everyone else at this point...ha

KSH - 2009-08-24 3:12 PM Yeah, location would be the key then. I'm not sure I could help you much though. You seem to be plenty fast. I'm the slow one out of us! HA! See my challenge is that I run before my swim... and I won't run outdoors when it's 100+ degrees. I have my limits. So I need a treadmill for 30 or so minutes... and then a pool. If you find a location I would be down. I agree, LTF is pricey- but the Bronze membership (1 club only) wasn't TOO bad. Since I ditched the coach this year, it was my "splurge" (because I LOVE swimming in WARM water!).
Big_D - 2009-08-24 3:02 PM I have some short distance speed and could help push you faster, and you have the technique and knowledge to help me swim better.  Would be a good balance and trade off.  But the downfall is Lifetime  They are too proud of their facilities for me $$$.  Mondays at that time would work for me, would just have to figure out location that works.

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Uh, you would kick my butt in the pool man! You swim faster than I do! But I swim at Lifetime Fitness off Trinity Mills- Monday and Wednesday evenings. I try to run first and get in at 7:30 PM when the water arobics class has cleared out. You... or anyone is welcome to join me anytime. I think I need someone to swim with to get my butt moving faster.


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First off...how the hell did you get $99 for one year at 24 hour?  We pay just over $50 per month for the wife and I.  We get multiple clubs, but damn...you get 10 months free!!! 

The only 24 near me that has a pool is the one on Preston, just south of RBM.  It is a two lane pool, and generally has one person swimming.  LA Fitness has 4 lanes, and they are NEVER busy.  I worked out there when I played for the Thunder (they sponsored the team), but when the league fell through, they wanted to charge us.  The monthly fee is high, but I think you can swim there for $5 a session (don't quote me).  Then there is always the Little Elm beach.  A lot of people swear by it, and Frisco Tri Club is out there on Tuesdays.  Haven;t ben yet, but it sounds fun.

I'd love to swim with you guys sometime.  I can't swim far and I don't swim fast; in fact, I have nothing to offer...except a few crude jokes, and a rubber band ball that I stole from a girl in the sixth grade...oh, and I have BEER!!!

Talk to you guys later.



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I actually had a better deal with them for the past few years, but that one ran out and this was my extension tied to it (and I do have multiple club coverage). You just have to talk them into it I guess. The second option with them is if you have a costco membership, it is $299 for 2 years. I go to the one on Preston too, I just tend to go very late at night and it is usually pretty easy to get a lane. Otherwise, I just drive a bit further and use the one on Park and Ohio, I think they have 5 or 6 lanes and it feels like meters instead of yds.I am out at Little Elm with the Frisco club, come out and join us. I am usually in the kayak or helping out on the short course we set up. Come out and join us sometime. We have a full range of athletes from beginners up to some insanely talented and fast people. One thing in common is that everyone is incredibly nice and helpful.
jeffwhite - 2009-08-24 10:28 PM

First off...how the hell did you get $99 for one year at 24 hour?  We pay just over $50 per month for the wife and I.  We get multiple clubs, but damn...you get 10 months free!!! 

The only 24 near me that has a pool is the one on Preston, just south of RBM.  It is a two lane pool, and generally has one person swimming.  LA Fitness has 4 lanes, and they are NEVER busy.  I worked out there when I played for the Thunder (they sponsored the team), but when the league fell through, they wanted to charge us.  The monthly fee is high, but I think you can swim there for $5 a session (don't quote me).  Then there is always the Little Elm beach.  A lot of people swear by it, and Frisco Tri Club is out there on Tuesdays.  Haven;t ben yet, but it sounds fun.

I'd love to swim with you guys sometime.  I can't swim far and I don't swim fast; in fact, I have nothing to offer...except a few crude jokes, and a rubber band ball that I stole from a girl in the sixth grade...oh, and I have BEER!!!

Talk to you guys later.

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the lake is a good spot. you can run before you swim or after. I will be out wed night around 6:30 if anyone wants to join me. bring a pull buoy...well i will have one.
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Big_D - 2009-08-24 11:55 PM I actually had a better deal with them for the past few years, but that one ran out and this was my extension tied to it (and I do have multiple club coverage). You just have to talk them into it I guess. The second option with them is if you have a costco membership, it is $299 for 2 years. I go to the one on Preston too, I just tend to go very late at night and it is usually pretty easy to get a lane. Otherwise, I just drive a bit further and use the one on Park and Ohio, I think they have 5 or 6 lanes and it feels like meters instead of yds.I am out at Little Elm with the Frisco club, come out and join us. I am usually in the kayak or helping out on the short course we set up. Come out and join us sometime. We have a full range of athletes from beginners up to some insanely talented and fast people. One thing in common is that everyone is incredibly nice and helpful.


Sorry to butt inLaughing.....quick question? How is the pool off of Park and Ohio. I've heard that it is a salt water pool? I'm a 24 hr member also and used to swim @ the Addison location. I HATE it-bleh! It is so gross I stopped swimming there. I'm thinking about dropping my membership w/24 hr and going to Lifetime off of Trinity Mills, it's where TTT holds their group swim workout so I've been to the pool.
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I have a $120 24 Hour Fitness membership- yearly. I have nationwide coverage with access to Active and Sport locations. Years ago I bought 2 years up front and after that ended I went on this deal where I only pay $120 a year. Which is why I belong to 24 Hour Fitness and Lifetime Fitness.

The Lifetime Fitness pool off Trinity Mills is superior to any 24 Hour Fitness pool. It's better for lap swimming because it has a way for the waves to overflow out of the pool. None of the 24 Hour Fitness pools I have seen have this feature. So the waves just bounce back in, and it makes for a lot a waves in the pool. On a positive note, it's more like open water swimming.

I also stopped going to 24 Hour Fitness because all of the pools are SO COLD! I hate cold water. I mean, really hate it. I always loved the temperature of the Lifetime Fitness pool off Trinity Mills... so I joined the club just to have access to a warm water indoor pool, anytime I wanted to swim.

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