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2012-10-25 10:20 AM
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Tony, you obviously never ran a motor pool in the military. The HMMWV is horrible to maintain and operate. If you took 8, you'd lose 6 by the time you went 100 miles.

Now the MTVR, that's one sweet piece of zombie crunching machinery.
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2012-10-25 1:37 PM
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Which begs another question.  Why haven't they gotten some clean clothes in 8 months?  They have free clothes at all the shopping malls, but they haven't said "this shirt can stand-up on its own,  I'm gonna get a new one."

 

I think because all of the stores have been ransacked.. but I agree it is a little strange.   Little spoiler here, they address this while in the prison and they end up wearing prison jumpsuits

At least Rick has finally changed out of his deputy's uniform.

I always wondered the same damn thing about the cars.  Acres and acres of abandoned cars, not to mention the dealerships they must have passed, and Dale insisted on a broke down Winnebago that was held together with baling wire.

And just when you thought we were going to FINALLY get away from the "Carl, stay in the house," crap, they have him wonder off on his own getting medical supplies.

Here's the important difference from last season: he's not getting in trouble, he's fending for himself. You notice how he's now handling a gun & acting responsibly? The writers are making the kid important, which is more like the comics anyway. One of the biggest themes of the comic is watching Carl turn into a young man.

 

Carl's never going to 'stay in the house', but he's not like a wounded lamb walking through a lion's den any more.

2012-10-25 2:34 PM
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for those reading the comics, comp 2 is now out and will take u from vol 49-96..... if u like the show u will love the reading....
2012-10-25 6:09 PM
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 (but not to make more whiskey).

No more whiskey?  That IS the end of the world.

2012-10-25 6:19 PM
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Yeah, interesting since wheat and rye kinda grow wild if you let them.
2012-10-28 9:17 PM
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This episode just blew my mind. Is Andrea the biggest bit@# ever?? Killing OUR troops, thats some low dowm dirty sh)$.

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Iowaman - 2012-10-28 9:17 PM This episode just blew my mind. Is Andrea the biggest bit@# ever?? Killing OUR troops, thats some low dowm dirty sh)$.

I was watching and thinking, hmm this Governor guy isn't that bad.  and then...

2012-10-29 6:33 AM
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Iowaman - 2012-10-28 9:17 PM This episode just blew my mind. Is Andrea the biggest bit@# ever?? Killing OUR troops, thats some low dowm dirty sh)$.

I was watching and thinking, hmm this Governor guy isn't that bad.  and then...

I got a feeling you'll like him less as things progress...

2012-10-29 9:20 AM
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Iowaman - 2012-10-28 9:17 PM This episode just blew my mind. Is Andrea the biggest bit@# ever?? Killing OUR troops, thats some low dowm dirty sh)$.

I was watching and thinking, hmm this Governor guy isn't that bad.  and then...

I got a feeling you'll like him less as things progress...

 

I was just happy that they answered some of the more pressing questions - like, "Why don't zombies starve if they constantly feel the need to feed?" and "Who the heck has been cutting all of the grass during the apocalypse (see prison yard grass)?"

2012-10-29 9:26 AM
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cgregg - 2012-10-29 9:20 AM
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tuwood - 2012-10-28 9:58 PM

Iowaman - 2012-10-28 9:17 PM This episode just blew my mind. Is Andrea the biggest bit@# ever?? Killing OUR troops, thats some low dowm dirty sh)$.

I was watching and thinking, hmm this Governor guy isn't that bad.  and then...

I got a feeling you'll like him less as things progress...

 

I was just happy that they answered some of the more pressing questions - like, "Why don't zombies starve if they constantly feel the need to feed?" and "Who the heck has been cutting all of the grass during the apocalypse (see prison yard grass)?"

Perhaps some of the zombies are herbivores and like to eat grass.   

2012-10-29 9:29 AM
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What a great episode.  The return of Merle wielding a prosthetic knife hand?  A new villain who likes to stare at heads in a pyramid of fish tanks?  


2012-10-29 11:19 AM
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I was all `I can see why he'd want to kill the Army guys -- they're definitely a threat to his way of life.' but then I thought `They could really be useful.' but then figured `They'd just come in and take over the place.' In the end, I'd probably just ignore them unless it became an issue. Going to find them to kill them was very uncool.
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A new villain who likes to stare at heads in a pyramid of fish tanks?  

What's with the fish tanks?  Is that something that gets answered later or did we lose something when the comic got translated into tv? 

2012-10-30 5:21 AM
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What do you think is in the tea???
2012-10-30 7:58 AM
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the fish tanks are just to set the bar on his crazy level...sort of his version of TV... if i remember right the comics had zombie heads in there so they were animated...

and they talked about the tea way to much for it not to come back around....u think the phil nye science guy is making his own special blend.....


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That had to be the worst written fight scene in the series so far. I know they are just trying to show how ruthless they are and that they are prepared to fight but really?... Really? The just walk up to a group of armed National Guard and take them all out without a big fire fight or losing any of their guys? That was just bad TV right there.

The rest of the show was ok but just a lot of set up for later shows.

2012-10-30 8:24 AM
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Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

I thought it was a little funny how upset Michonne and Amanda were so outraged by the way the Governor was killing zombies.  And then I realized that they didn't know the whole "no matter how you die, you come back..." part.

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GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 6:24 AM

Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

2012-10-30 8:44 AM
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Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

I'm with you.  I think my 13 year old daughter could come up with a better defensive position than they were in.  Even after the Governor shot the one guy they were all just standing there waiting to get shot.  um yeah.

2012-10-30 8:54 AM
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Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

I'm with you.  I think my 13 year old daughter could come up with a better defensive position than they were in.  Even after the Governor shot the one guy they were all just standing there waiting to get shot.  um yeah.



Yeah and his slo-mo drawing of the gun didn't tip him off. And the rest of the guys just stood there and waited to get shot. Oh except the one guy who hid and then ran. Riiiiiight.

But again, if that's the least realistic thing you've found about that episode, well ...


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mr2tony - 2012-10-30 9:54 AM
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Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

I'm with you.  I think my 13 year old daughter could come up with a better defensive position than they were in.  Even after the Governor shot the one guy they were all just standing there waiting to get shot.  um yeah.

Yeah and his slo-mo drawing of the gun didn't tip him off. And the rest of the guys just stood there and waited to get shot. Oh except the one guy who hid and then ran. Riiiiiight. But again, if that's the least realistic thing you've found about that episode, well ...

 

SLOOOWWWW MOOOOTION DRRRRAAWWWWWWWW.................SHOOOOOOOOOOOT the first guy and then stand there in plain view..........

I agree.  He didn't even hit him in the head and use one bullet for both zombie and man.  He hits him in the shoulder...

I also liked Amanda "That's some heavy gunnery you have up there..." What? the 30-06 with a scope?

I'm very distressed by the lack of Mk-19s in the movie. 

My prediction for the village...They'll all die because they aren't doing enough Rule no 1---Cardio...

2012-10-30 11:04 AM
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tuwood - 2012-10-28 10:58 PM

Iowaman - 2012-10-28 9:17 PM This episode just blew my mind. Is Andrea the biggest bit@# ever?? Killing OUR troops, thats some low dowm dirty sh)$.

I was watching and thinking, hmm this Governor guy isn't that bad.  and then...

If you read the graphic novels, it gets worse with the Governor...  Much worse.  Michoene finds out.

 

2012-10-30 11:16 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-10-30 9:54 AM
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Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

I'm with you.  I think my 13 year old daughter could come up with a better defensive position than they were in.  Even after the Governor shot the one guy they were all just standing there waiting to get shot.  um yeah.

Yeah and his slo-mo drawing of the gun didn't tip him off. And the rest of the guys just stood there and waited to get shot. Oh except the one guy who hid and then ran. Riiiiiight. But again, if that's the least realistic thing you've found about that episode, well ...

I don't think it's that unrealistic.  National Guard guys are freaked out.  Walkers just took out their encampent and they barely got out.  They've been waiting 2 days for word from the Lt.  They're scared an unsure.  They think any attack would be coming from walkers, not people, and so I'm not shocked that they could so easily be taken by surprised.  In battle, confusion and indecision can cause enough delay to result in an catastrophic end.

 

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Bigfuzzydoug - 2012-10-30 11:16 AM

mr2tony - 2012-10-30 9:54 AM
tuwood - 2012-10-30 8:44 AM
Big Appa - 2012-10-30 8:34 AM
GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 6:24 AM

Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

I'm with you.  I think my 13 year old daughter could come up with a better defensive position than they were in.  Even after the Governor shot the one guy they were all just standing there waiting to get shot.  um yeah.

Yeah and his slo-mo drawing of the gun didn't tip him off. And the rest of the guys just stood there and waited to get shot. Oh except the one guy who hid and then ran. Riiiiiight. But again, if that's the least realistic thing you've found about that episode, well ...

I don't think it's that unrealistic.  National Guard guys are freaked out.  Walkers just took out their encampent and they barely got out.  They've been waiting 2 days for word from the Lt.  They're scared an unsure.  They think any attack would be coming from walkers, not people, and so I'm not shocked that they could so easily be taken by surprised.  In battle, confusion and indecision can cause enough delay to result in an catastrophic end.

 



I guess the issue I'm having is that they weren't in any sort of defensive position. Now, digging foxholes or trenches wouldn't be necessary, and in fact might be bad, but any good military commander would've had his guys in a defensive position where they could fight then fall back (if necessary) and continue to fight in the event some walkers came upon them. They'd been out there for about a year, you'd think by now they'd have some experience defending themselves, nevermind the fact that they're a military unit.
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