PeterAK's Group: THIS TREEHOUSE IS FULL!!! (Page 4)

Eric - what do you do in San Antonio!  I love that city and Austin too.  Last time in the area was 2005 when we vacationed at Canyon Lake.  Looks like there's a tri there next year...and an adventure race!

ieee. 12 hours later things should stop spinning, right?

Speaking of spinning, I was too lazy (read: dumb) to get outside in the beautiful weather and ride for the 1 hour I had without the kiddos.  Instead, I'm going to spin on the trainer this evening while letting the TV destroy the brain cells the booze didn't get to last night.

Um, what do we use this thread for?  I mean, besides my personal TAN?

Where is Zilla?  I miss Zilla....

Force!  I still need to shake you down.  I know how fickle you are and I'm so sorry I didn't respond to you immediately after you posted!

I've ridden with you, and if your bike is your weak link, you are going to great as you do more races.  You are spending lots of quality time in the pool.  Your sub 2 hr half mary is rock solid too.  Can't wait to see how Racine goes for you.  In spring I'd be happy to ride the Racine course with you, I've done it I don't know how many times...  The last two years it was a pretty regular Saturday morning ritual for me from May to June.

Sounds like nutrition is one area you can learn and improve on.  I'll throw some questions out to the group as a whole and see if I can post some of the info I got from my coach this summer.

NUTRITION:

We'll talk general face stuffing later, but for now, I want to get a bit of a baseline of your exercise specific habits.  What do you eat and drink while working out and racing?  What is your post workout/race recovery plan?  Water? Sports drink? Gels?  Real food?  Anybody used endurolyte supplements?  Share what brands you have tried and how you like them.

It's okay if you don't have solid habits, I just want to know what you've been doing so far.  We cover the spectrum of newbies to experienced uber-endurance athletes in this group so it's a great chance to learn from each other!  I'll share what I do after I learn about you guys.

I was beginning to wonder if you really cared...

Thanks for the offer, I'm game.

Amen to that...my diet stinks and I'm sure that's the primary reason my weightloss has stagnated. I'll be open to suggestions....thanks.

My racing nutrition experience is very limited...I've used gels sporadically (GU, Accel Gel), plus straight water and Gatorade Endurance. Like both brands of gel and the GE is good.

Training nutrition (during) has been gels (as above, nominally every 20 minutes or so), plus water, GE, and I've recently began eating Cliff bars (pretty tasty).

Training nutrion (post) depends on how I feel...usually water or left over GE, then onto regular food, as the mood strikes and/or clock dictates (i.e. lunch or dinner time). 

Pre-training is usually a 'PB samich'.

I have not used (I don't think) any endurolyte supplements...do you mean "salt tabs"?

Peter, do you keep track of your sweat rate and if so, how does this factor into your nutritional planning?

diet wise - pre workout - h20 but no food often nothing as I like to go early in the morning - else a slice or two of wheat bread and some h20 - dilute gatorade for anything over 30 minutes - usually about 20 oz - in the summer MUCH more - I sweat a LOT - have lost 4lbs in an hour so I am very happy to have gotten the amphipod belt at the end of the summer  - not much experience with gels or gu

post exercise - accelerade or gatorade and whatever is in the fridge. chocolate milk if I think of it when I am in the store

YOU NEED ME ON THAT WALL!

well? 

What I used to do, what I should do and what I actually do is sooooo not consistent.  I'm really curious about your feedback on this.  For endurance sports and training I've been told that to teach the body to burn fat for energy is the way to keep it going long distance.  So.... according to coach AJ in last night's chat, he said to train as much as possible in the lower zones, 1 and 2 to build base and burn fat as fuel.  As far as nutrition is concerned, I've been taught that the ratio of carb/protein/fat is essential for your body to burn the proper fuel.  I think I've learned this racing.. If I go into it properly fed with food including protein and during the race take a bottle of something with protein like Accelerade, it seems to work the best.  Once I eat a gel or something similar, I've noticed that I have to continue with the gels for the rest of the race/training or else I crash and burn, maybe because my body switched from burning fat to burning sugars?  Anyhooooo.  What was the question?

What do I use?

Short training - 2 hours or less - small snack before (1/2 bar of something), water during, recovery drink within 1/2 hour after (R4 or similar), then a balanced meal soon.

Long training/racing - over 2 hours - bar before, or pb & J, Accelerade during, take gels with me in case of bonking , same recovery after. 

What do you think?  I've never tried supplements or salt tabs... thoughts peter?

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Congrats on getting the clear to walk in regular shoes!  Hope it is relatively pain free for you.

If I work out early - early like when the rest of the family is sleeping - I usually don't eat anything.  I'll have some water and maybe a 1/2 to 1 cliff bar if I'm going to go for an hour or more, but generally my workouts aren't that long.

When I ride outside I'll just bring water or gatorade along on the bike - never used any gels before.

I guess I really don't to anything outstanding to prepare for training - I pretty much eat the same way and on the same time schedule as a normal day - 4 or 5 small meals with a healthy snack somewhere in there. 

Coffee and Diet Mt Dew are my constants - mmmmmm....yummy!