SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! (Page 43)

BigReub - 2009-05-06 9:52 AM Janet and Tony, that's what I was thinking.  a 5k is of no concern so I will simply over-run, but will include more speedwork this time (as opposed to basically zero last time).

John, were you visualizing racing in order to get over the pain of the music.  I couldn't handle it.  I'd have to sneak in my mp3. 
And is Yo Yo Ma really that much better than say...my friend Nicci from high school.  I'm pretty sure I couldn't tell the difference.

Nice gift though. My wife would love something like that so if she reads this I'm going to have to hunt you down...

cadmus - 2009-05-06 10:53 AM

Karen:  I'm a fan of almond and cashew butters - still eat more PB than either of those, but they are another option and do taste different.

Tracy: Sounds like quite the day you have planned.  Be careful not to over do it, I'd hate to hear you pulled something reaching for the Oreos - keep 'em close.

So I'm thinking - gosh I can't believe I'm about to type this, about adding the Portland Marathon to my schedule for this year.  I've always said a marathon does not interest me, so what the heck changed???????   I'm a little conflicted about not being able to do the Bellingham Bay half-marathon again to see how much I can improve over last year.  I know where I went wrong in my training and think I could have run that one about 25 sec/mile faster - which is big and I'd like to prove that I can do it.  And what's weird is the marathon distance at the Bellingham Bay does not appeal to me at all.

Let's put it to a vote - Bellingham Bay half w/ goal of improving time or Portland Marathon.  They are a week apart, so doing both is not an option (I'm not Steve ) 

tahrens - 2009-05-06 10:13 AM


I'm not seeing your reasons for wanting to do the marathon?  You said the distance doesn't interest you and you want to reevaluate you run from last year, so the choose seems clear to me.  Do the half.   

fattyfatfat - 2009-05-06 11:02 AM

damn i should have seen this coming....   i should have brought a camera and taken pics of all the tata's in low cut dresses.

cadmus - 2009-05-06 10:53 AM

- Bellingham Bay half w/ goal of improving time or Portland Marathon.  They are a week apart, so doing both is not an option (I'm not Steve ) 

BigReub - 2009-05-06 9:34 AM

I agree.  Go with the half.  No appeal = lack of motivation = difficult training.

cadmus - 2009-05-06 10:53 AM

Karen:  I'm a fan of almond and cashew butters - still eat more PB than either of those, but they are another option and do taste different.

Tracy: Sounds like quite the day you have planned.  Be careful not to over do it, I'd hate to hear you pulled something reaching for the Oreos - keep 'em close.

So I'm thinking - gosh I can't believe I'm about to type this, about adding the Portland Marathon to my schedule for this year.  I've always said a marathon does not interest me, so what the heck changed???????   I'm a little conflicted about not being able to do the Bellingham Bay half-marathon again to see how much I can improve over last year.  I know where I went wrong in my training and think I could have run that one about 25 sec/mile faster - which is big and I'd like to prove that I can do it.  And what's weird is the marathon distance at the Bellingham Bay does not appeal to me at all.

Let's put it to a vote - Bellingham Bay half w/ goal of improving time or Portland Marathon.  They are a week apart, so doing both is not an option (I'm not Steve ) 

TrevorC - 2009-05-06 10:31 AM Good news, bad news morning......
1st the good:
Tracy, I bought the Finis hand paddles like you had mentioned. What a difference they make!! I used them for a few lengths and then swam some lengths after, I really noticed a difference in my catch and pull.

and now THE BAD: I tweaked something in back last week, but popped a few ROBAX Platinum on the 1st day and all was good. Last night, I felt it again at baseball. One of the guys on my team told me he's had back surgery ,etc,etc,etc. What he thinks it is, is my sciatic nerve. He was showing me some stretches after and it seemed to loosen it up.. Anybody have issues with this? What i've noticed is that I can swim,ride,run and all that stuff, but man trying to bend over and tie my shoes hurts. Frustrating. I don't think it'll cause any issues this weekend, but it's weird.

dalessit - 2009-05-06 9:39 AM

My wife had a problem with the ciatic nerve and eneded up going to a chiro.  She went to a few sessions and hasn't had a problem with it since.  I'll ask her what the deal was on how he fixed it.

TrevorC - 2009-05-06 11:43 AM

I've been reading about it today, and watching some videos...Sound like alot of stretching. I'm not sold on the Chiro's. Those guys freak me out. But, at the same time, if it works...

fattyfatfat - 2009-05-06 8:19 AM

X2

cadmus - 2009-05-06 9:45 AM

Sorry that wasn't clear - the marathon appeals to me, just not the 26.2 at Bellingham Bay because I know the course and it doesn't seem like fun the way it's set up. 

TrevorC - 2009-05-06 11:30 AM I'm sticking with my answer --do the half. I don't believe you should do a race that your not into.  That being said, if there is a marathon out there that appeals to you, do it!! and the half!

cadmus - 2009-05-06 8:45 AM

Sorry that wasn't clear - the marathon appeals to me, just not the 26.2 at Bellingham Bay because I know the course and it doesn't seem like fun the way it's set up. 

kt65 - 2009-05-06 2:49 PM

Matt, sorry if I have forgotten, but wasn't it you that had those IT band issues?  If so, mary training can be alot harder on you than half training.  Especially if you add in serious speedwork to knock off those 25sec/ mile.  Just MHO.  You know your body best...good luck with the decision.

edited to say that it wasn't you with the IT thing, it was cbarnes...dang, the memory starts to go in the 40's...just do the marathon then!!!!   sorry about that.

swbkrun - 2009-05-06 11:52 AM Stanely 1st off... Congrats!  That is nice, and your splits are wicked fast for stretching your distance out!  Great job!

Reuben/Janet- Sounds like you guys are on the right track!  Do your "normal" workouts, but be sure to get your long runs in for training for the 1/2...

Tracy/Tony- We don't want to hear from you guys anymore today.  Enjoy your day off!  Leave us "workers" alone !

Karen- Try HONEY!!! It is a great substitute!  (believe me I have all the answers to food questions I LOVE FOOD!)

Matt--- Here is my honest opnion... Do the full marathon.  I have done a couple marathon's and in your training you will be doing several runs over 13 miles.  You live in Bellingham.  Run the course in one of your early training runs.  Just because the 1/2 marathon is sanctioned doesn't mean that is the only time you can run the course.  You know the area well enough to do it on your own.... 


Last night I absolutely had my A$$ handed to me!  We did a 10+ mile trail run w/ over 4000 feet of climbing and I had to do everything in my power to hang on the back of the group!  The only nice thing was that when we were done I felt great, and the boys up front were spent... The tortoise and the hare baby!! But it was a great night, an awesome run, and next time it will be easier! I HOPE!

ashort33 - 2009-05-06 2:02 PM

That is way cool.  Being the techno geek I am I have to know what device you use to get the sort of info...