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2012-11-13 11:15 AM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:11 AM
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pitt83 - 2012-11-13 11:04 AM 
 Olive Garden? Seriously? Nooooo.... Give me some back alley godfather type Italian place with Chianti bottles covered in wax and red-checked table cloths where you can get a great steak pizziola and cannoli.

There is one of those in Chi-town that also serves gluten free almost everything. My fam took me there for a birthday and they even called ahead to have them make an entire gluten free tiramisu cake. It was probably the best meal I've had in my life.

if i had a gluten allergy, i would hate all italian food anywhere.

Yeah I hate going to Italian places. At least wine is gluten free



2012-11-13 11:15 AM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:11 AM

lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:10 PM

pitt83 - 2012-11-13 11:04 AM 
 Olive Garden? Seriously? Nooooo.... Give me some back alley godfather type Italian place with Chianti bottles covered in wax and red-checked table cloths where you can get a great steak pizziola and cannoli.

There is one of those in Chi-town that also serves gluten free almost everything. My fam took me there for a birthday and they even called ahead to have them make an entire gluten free tiramisu cake. It was probably the best meal I've had in my life.

if i had a gluten allergy, i would hate all italian food anywhere.



Except ones that make everything gluten-free.

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2012-11-13 11:19 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-13 12:15 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:11 AM
lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:10 PM

pitt83 - 2012-11-13 11:04 AM 
 Olive Garden? Seriously? Nooooo.... Give me some back alley godfather type Italian place with Chianti bottles covered in wax and red-checked table cloths where you can get a great steak pizziola and cannoli.

There is one of those in Chi-town that also serves gluten free almost everything. My fam took me there for a birthday and they even called ahead to have them make an entire gluten free tiramisu cake. It was probably the best meal I've had in my life.

if i had a gluten allergy, i would hate all italian food anywhere.

Except ones that make everything gluten-free. More on.

to me, gluten-free pasta is like alcohol-free beer or dairy-free cheese or decaf mt. dew.  just not quite right.

2012-11-13 11:22 AM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:19 AM

mr2tony - 2012-11-13 12:15 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:11 AM
lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:10 PM

pitt83 - 2012-11-13 11:04 AM 
 Olive Garden? Seriously? Nooooo.... Give me some back alley godfather type Italian place with Chianti bottles covered in wax and red-checked table cloths where you can get a great steak pizziola and cannoli.

There is one of those in Chi-town that also serves gluten free almost everything. My fam took me there for a birthday and they even called ahead to have them make an entire gluten free tiramisu cake. It was probably the best meal I've had in my life.

if i had a gluten allergy, i would hate all italian food anywhere.

Except ones that make everything gluten-free. More on.

to me, gluten-free pasta is like alcohol-free beer or dairy-free cheese or decaf mt. dew.  just not quite right.



Alcohol free beer? What's the point? Beer usually tastes like assbutt so to drink it for pleasure as opposed ot get drunk is just ludicrous.

But, some people can't eat gluten so they have no choice but to eat gluten-free food, whether it's right or not.
2012-11-13 11:24 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-13 12:22 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:19 AM
mr2tony - 2012-11-13 12:15 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:11 AM
lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:10 PM

pitt83 - 2012-11-13 11:04 AM 
 Olive Garden? Seriously? Nooooo.... Give me some back alley godfather type Italian place with Chianti bottles covered in wax and red-checked table cloths where you can get a great steak pizziola and cannoli.

There is one of those in Chi-town that also serves gluten free almost everything. My fam took me there for a birthday and they even called ahead to have them make an entire gluten free tiramisu cake. It was probably the best meal I've had in my life.

if i had a gluten allergy, i would hate all italian food anywhere.

Except ones that make everything gluten-free. More on.

to me, gluten-free pasta is like alcohol-free beer or dairy-free cheese or decaf mt. dew.  just not quite right.

Alcohol free beer? What's the point? Beer usually tastes like assbutt so to drink it for pleasure as opposed ot get drunk is just ludicrous. But, some people can't eat gluten so they have no choice but to eat gluten-free food, whether it's right or not.

oh em gee take your cranky taper self and go for a walk or something.

2012-11-13 11:24 AM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:24 AM

mr2tony - 2012-11-13 12:22 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:19 AM
mr2tony - 2012-11-13 12:15 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:11 AM
lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:10 PM

pitt83 - 2012-11-13 11:04 AM 
 Olive Garden? Seriously? Nooooo.... Give me some back alley godfather type Italian place with Chianti bottles covered in wax and red-checked table cloths where you can get a great steak pizziola and cannoli.

There is one of those in Chi-town that also serves gluten free almost everything. My fam took me there for a birthday and they even called ahead to have them make an entire gluten free tiramisu cake. It was probably the best meal I've had in my life.

if i had a gluten allergy, i would hate all italian food anywhere.

Except ones that make everything gluten-free. More on.

to me, gluten-free pasta is like alcohol-free beer or dairy-free cheese or decaf mt. dew.  just not quite right.

Alcohol free beer? What's the point? Beer usually tastes like assbutt so to drink it for pleasure as opposed ot get drunk is just ludicrous. But, some people can't eat gluten so they have no choice but to eat gluten-free food, whether it's right or not.

oh em gee take your cranky taper self and go for a walk or something.



You can't make me!


2012-11-13 11:35 AM
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I really want some chicken parmesan now on the slightly crispy side.
2012-11-13 11:37 AM
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2012-11-13 11:41 AM
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Somebody's tapering...
2012-11-13 11:45 AM
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so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

2012-11-13 11:45 AM
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You bastard!! You've been using my time machine to nail your bar skanks!!!


2012-11-13 11:50 AM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 9:45 AM

so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

I feel ya...  It SUCKS when friendships go south for some reason.  It's usually a misunderstanding or lack of understanding where someone is in their lives.  It's often the people we are close to that we lash out at when we are unhappy about something.  Seems to be the case with your friend.

And you hate to open up old wounds to get some closure, because that could be a set back.  But it's also weird to have that elephant in the room...  You COULD try to just understand and let it slide/go...

It's tough.  Usually time, and a good night of drinking helps!

Well, I know you are a solid person and will take the high road, so I have confidence you will do the right thing!

2012-11-13 11:51 AM
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Alpharetta, Georgia
Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted!
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:45 AM

so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

Sticky...
Glad you guys are getting together though - that warms my heart. Only advice would be to hash out the past only if you need to, but re-connect and move on together. Over wine.  

I would personally try to keep any convo about the past short to avoid blame or drama, framing it with something like "Look we really shouldn't dwell on the past, but I need to get this off my chest" - and when you do, move on quickly. Just my .002.

2012-11-13 11:52 AM
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Big Appa - 2012-11-13 9:35 AM I really want some chicken parmesan now on the slightly crispy side.

I really don't care about this ^^^^^

BUT, thanks for the head's up about CoD!  That is to be my birthday present.  I'm turing "butt arse old" in just under two weeks.

2012-11-13 11:56 AM
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lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:51 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:45 AM

so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

Sticky...
Glad you guys are getting together though - that warms my heart. Only advice would be to hash out the past only if you need to, but re-connect and move on together. Over wine.  

I would personally try to keep any convo about the past short to avoid blame or drama, framing it with something like "Look we really shouldn't dwell on the past, but I need to get this off my chest" - and when you do, move on quickly. Just my .002.

yeah...i think we both know WHY our relationship died off...and she is stubborn and proud and never going to come out and say "i'm sorry i did this" and i wouldn't expect that from her.  and like kido said, i'm not sure i want to force it either and make things extra weird.

but when i was still talking to her when everything happened, i just wanted her to ask about neil or ask how wedding planning was or just show she approved/cared about my choice somehow.  and knowing her personality, i'd know that was her apology.  i haven't gotten that yet....

2012-11-13 11:57 AM
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Kido - 2012-11-13 9:52 AM

Big Appa - 2012-11-13 9:35 AM I really want some chicken parmesan now on the slightly crispy side.

I really don't care about this ^^^^^

BUT, thanks for the head's up about CoD!  That is to be my birthday present.  I'm turing "butt arse old" in just under two weeks.

Your turning 38?



2012-11-13 11:57 AM
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Kido - 2012-11-13 12:50 PM

Well, I know you are a solid person and will take the high road, so I have confidence you will do the right thing!

that's really sweet of you kido!

2012-11-13 12:00 PM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 9:56 AM
lisac957 - 2012-11-13 12:51 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 11:45 AM

so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

Sticky...
Glad you guys are getting together though - that warms my heart. Only advice would be to hash out the past only if you need to, but re-connect and move on together. Over wine.  

I would personally try to keep any convo about the past short to avoid blame or drama, framing it with something like "Look we really shouldn't dwell on the past, but I need to get this off my chest" - and when you do, move on quickly. Just my .002.

yeah...i think we both know WHY our relationship died off...and she is stubborn and proud and never going to come out and say "i'm sorry i did this" and i wouldn't expect that from her.  and like kido said, i'm not sure i want to force it either and make things extra weird.

but when i was still talking to her when everything happened, i just wanted her to ask about neil or ask how wedding planning was or just show she approved/cared about my choice somehow.  and knowing her personality, i'd know that was her apology.  i haven't gotten that yet....

Sometimes you do simply need an "I'm sorry" and a hug.  Without it, seems like no closure.  Well, that's how I work.  Some people just like to forget it ever happened and let sleeping dogs lie.

2012-11-13 12:01 PM
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Big Appa - 2012-11-13 9:57 AM
Kido - 2012-11-13 9:52 AM

Big Appa - 2012-11-13 9:35 AM I really want some chicken parmesan now on the slightly crispy side.

I really don't care about this ^^^^^

BUT, thanks for the head's up about CoD!  That is to be my birthday present.  I'm turing "butt arse old" in just under two weeks.

Your turning 38?

again

2012-11-13 12:01 PM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 12:45 PM

so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

Old friends are worth the trouble.  JWKMH goes out to dinner about once a month with some of her girl friends from high school who all live close.  A much expanded group that just comes home for the holidays gets together for lunch on Christman Eve.  This has been going on for 40 years. 

Go back to the place where you were closest and start talking from there.   If I want someone to feel comfortable, I always ask a question that they will like to answer and then I listen and nod.  It might start with "Do you remember...."

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2012-11-13 12:14 PM
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Page One????

Ok maybe not - what did I miss?

2012-11-13 12:14 PM
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Teejaay - 2012-11-13 1:04 PM
mehaner - 2012-11-13 10:45 AM

so i have a dinner planned with my ex-best friend tonight.  we basically stopped being friends because she refused to be supportive of my engagement (so this was 2+ years ago now) and really had no reason (her reason was that he was too polite to people at her housewarming party and he told everyone he was a structural engineer even though his degree is in civil engineering...ummm)

ANYWAY, we started talking again because she's been coming clean to people about her getting a divorce and the timing works out that around the time my relationship was really taking off, hers was really falling apart and possibly a lot of the reason for her horribleness to me.

we were BEST FRIENDS from like...13 to 26 years old.  but i'm still concerned tonight will be totally awkward.  advice?  anyone?

Had the same scenario ... we met in 7th grade .. were inseperable until our 30's .. she didn't like my BF and was very vocal about it (even though all of her BF's were and are currently losers and I kept quiet) and we had a big fight and "broke up" for 5 years.  In that time I got married and pregnant.  I ran into her when I was 9 months pregnant and it was awkward.  But we exchanged numbers.  We had that first dinner ..  and it wasn't bad.  Kept conversation superficial. Then we saw each other about every 6 months.  The deeper apologies and talking came after we established a bit more trust with each other again. Then we started to become more a part of each others lives .. now we see each other a couple times a week and are back to pretty much normal comfort level.   When I met with her for the first time I told myself (and still do every time I see her) that I will always speak up if she offends me or says something to me that is hurtful or judging about my life (as was our issues before).  Try to enjoy yourself, see what she has to say .. keep it light.  See what happens.  Good luck!

great story, thanks!  she has always been a tough friend but has been with me through so much...(and a lot of times she was right about my horrible choice in men!)  things have been superficial and it seems weird for us but i guess that takes time.

2012-11-13 12:21 PM
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mehaner - 2012-11-13 10:14 AM

great story, thanks!  she has always been a tough friend but has been with me through so much...(and a lot of times she was right about my horrible choice in men!)  things have been superficial and it seems weird for us but i guess that takes time.

I also try to think about all the good times.  It sucks that there is sometimes just ONE deal breaker that seems to sour years and years of a great relationship.  Some things you just can't bounce back from, unfortunately.

But try to think, and get her to think, that you are giving up on years and years of good times, great conversations, etc because of perhaps ONE event, one day, or maybe a week or several months at most because she was in a bad place.

I guess it doesn't take much to ruin a lifetime of friendship (which sucks), but if it's worth it, then try to focus on all the good, not a bad moment.  (oh, and maybe she can too, obviously).

2012-11-13 12:27 PM
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Kido - 2012-11-13 11:52 AM

Big Appa - 2012-11-13 9:35 AM I really want some chicken parmesan now on the slightly crispy side.

I really don't care about this ^^^^^

BUT, thanks for the head's up about CoD!  That is to be my birthday present.  I'm turing "butt arse old" in just under two weeks.



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