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2010-09-09 1:10 PM
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neilur - 2010-09-08 10:19 PM Anyone have any say on which bike would suit this course better, Tri or Road?

If you have been riding a road bike then this course will be faster on that for sure.  Like someone else said though...Ride what you've been riding.  It takes me 2-3 weeks to get adjusted to my road bike after i've been riding my tri bike for a long time.  Tri bikes are only better when you have flats or at least fast downhills with flats after that you can hold you speed.  This course only has one area that a tri bike will be faster and that is the last 5 miles.  Slightly downhill and fast.



2010-09-09 1:13 PM
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mjgardner - 2010-09-01 1:07 PM Athlete guide is out.  Bib assignments next and then it is go time!

For those who did KS this year, how are your expecting times to look in comparison?  Hard to compare I would imagine with a harder bike but probably easier run (no hills at all).  I hope temps will be cooler than KS.

That being said I am ready and feel real good.  Had a great long swim yesterday splitting 1:26/100.  Best I have swam all year.

 

Swim - same duh lol...bike will be quite a bit slower i think.  I averaged right at 21mph at kansas and ill be happy with something between 19-20 on this course.  Run should be a little faster i think.  There won't be that moster hill coming back from the boat dock like we had to run twice at kansas.  It's pretty flat.  Overall i'd say 10-20 min slower.  Especially because the kansas run course was like 0.8 miles short.

2010-09-12 8:56 AM
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T-minus 1 week, or 7 days, or 168 hours, or 10,080 minutes.
2010-09-12 9:50 AM
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I hope someone can shed light on the second loop of the hwy 465 as the diagram is a little confusing.  When you make the turn around for the second loop of 465, I am assuming this is a full loop of the 465 section, which adds a third time of the 2 mile section that leads to 248.  Is this an accurate statement?
2010-09-12 9:57 AM
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Cant Wait!  This tapering stuff is killin me!  Projected 60 for a low and 82 for the high.  Water temps depending on who you listen to is anywhere from 78 to 80 degrees.  I am sure they will find a "cold" spot to make this wetsuit legal.
2010-09-12 10:33 AM
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jlamm66 - 2010-09-12 9:57 AM Cant Wait!  This tapering stuff is killin me!  Projected 60 for a low and 82 for the high.  Water temps depending on who you listen to is anywhere from 78 to 80 degrees.  I am sure they will find a "cold" spot to make this wetsuit legal.


Hope youre right on the "cold" spot and I agree, I feel like im not doing anything with this taper.


2010-09-12 12:06 PM
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tri4lfe - 2010-09-12 9:50 AMI hope someone can shed light on the second loop of the hwy 465 as the diagram is a little confusing.  When you make the turn around for the second loop of 465, I am assuming this is a full loop of the 465 section, which adds a third time of the 2 mile section that leads to 248.  Is this an accurate statement?
yes it is 2.5 loops on that section. Out and back, out and back and out to the other highway that you take into town.
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jlamm66 - 2010-09-12 9:57 AMCant Wait!  This tapering stuff is killin me!  Projected 60 for a low and 82 for the high.  Water temps depending on who you listen to is anywhere from 78 to 80 degrees.  I am sure they will find a "cold" spot to make this wetsuit legal.
I would kill for some taper...im training straight through for ironman Florida. So I'll bike 100 miles and run 25 not including the race. Not to mention I have been feeling the last few weeks in my legs lately. Won't be my fastest 1/2 or the funest for me. Racing a 1/2 on tired legs is never much fun.
2010-09-12 4:22 PM
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I would kill for some taper...im training straight through for ironman Florida. So I'll bike 100 miles and run 25 not including the race. Not to mention I have been feeling the last few weeks in my legs lately. Won't be my fastest 1/2 or the funest for me. Racing a 1/2 on tired legs is never much fun.


  Your a madman!  would not want to do this course on tired legs but I understand this is not your "A" race.  Best of luck to you.  Try and keep the dust down when you fly past me!Smile
2010-09-13 6:52 PM
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jlamm66 - 2010-09-12 9:57 AM Cant Wait!  This tapering stuff is killin me!  Projected 60 for a low and 82 for the high.  Water temps depending on who you listen to is anywhere from 78 to 80 degrees.  I am sure they will find a "cold" spot to make this wetsuit legal.


If they drop the thermometer deep enough, it will be cold enough.  We were in Branson over July 4th and learned that the lake temperature near the bottom averages around 55 degrees year round. 

Love going to Branson.  I am planning on this being my first 70.3 in a few years. 
2010-09-13 10:12 PM
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I've been watching the water temps for the past two weeks. The water temp has been dropping every day for this entire time. Right now the Est. Water Temp is listed as 73 degrees. If they do the "official" temperature check at 4 AM like they did for KS it will be wetsuit legal. Like a previous post stated, if they drop the line low enough they will hit the cooler water.


2010-09-14 9:18 AM
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I have seen the maps for the run and the bike and they seem like it could be confusing to me.

On the run, any idea of how far the loops are? To me it looks more like 2.5 loops then it does 3 loops, but I could be looking at ot all wrong.
2010-09-14 9:36 AM
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Just a reminder that USAT wetsuit rules state:

"When the water temperature is greater than 78 degrees, but less than 84 degrees Farenheit, age group participants may wear a wet suit at their own discretion, provided however that participants who wear a wetsuit within this temperature range shall not be eligible for prizes or awards.  Age group participants shall not wear wet suits in water temperatures equal to or greater than 84 degreees Farenheit."

The chances that the water temp will be 84 or higher ar pretty low and the chances of me winning my age group are even lower maybe even no existant, so if I was a betting man I would wager pretty high that I will be wearing my wetsuit on Sunday
2010-09-14 9:45 AM
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I was also a littel confused so I kind of pieced together the little info they have released on aid stations, loops, etc.  and modified their map showing aid stations and mile markers.  Not sure if they are 100% percent accurate but it helped me visualize what was going on.

The run is actually about 3.25 laps as you will pass the T2 start area 3 times then finish in front of the fountains or something on the boarwalk.  From my calculations we should pass about 17 aid stations on the run and 5 on the bike.

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jford2309 - 2010-09-14 9:18 AM I have seen the maps for the run and the bike and they seem like it could be confusing to me.

On the run, any idea of how far the loops are? To me it looks more like 2.5 loops then it does 3 loops, but I could be looking at ot all wrong.




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2010-09-14 10:06 AM
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tmoran80 - 2010-09-14 9:45 AM I was also a littel confused so I kind of pieced together the little info they have released on aid stations, loops, etc.  and modified their map showing aid stations and mile markers.  Not sure if they are 100% percent accurate but it helped me visualize what was going on.

The run is actually about 3.25 laps as you will pass the T2 start area 3 times then finish in front of the fountains or something on the boarwalk.  From my calculations we should pass about 17 aid stations on the run and 5 on the bike.

Hope these help

jford2309 - 2010-09-14 9:18 AM I have seen the maps for the run and the bike and they seem like it could be confusing to me.

On the run, any idea of how far the loops are? To me it looks more like 2.5 loops then it does 3 loops, but I could be looking at ot all wrong.



Thanks for the info, and where did you find those maps??


One other question, where do we go so our family can keep up with us while we race? Isn;t there a site or text message program they can receive??
2010-09-14 11:00 AM
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No problem.  I found the maps on the race website http://www.ironmanbranson.com/course.php.  I then added all the aid staion and mile info.  Like I said I don't thin kit iexact but it gives you the idea.

You can find tracking info at www.ironman.com and just click on race result/runner tracking.

Somebody also made this You Tube video driving the bike course which I found somewhat helpful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6uFXX6mmDg

Good luck this weekend!!



Thanks for the info, and where did you find those maps??


One other question, where do we go so our family can keep up with us while we race? Isn;t there a site or text message program they can receive??


2010-09-15 12:18 PM
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They sent out an email saying you can't bring your dog on the beach. I was plannin on her joining me for the swim.  Damn she is gonna be so upset!  She has been training so hard Smile
2010-09-15 12:51 PM
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I'm the one that made the YouTube videos of the bike and run courses.  I hope they have been helpful to you all.

I also made a "realtime" ride video of the Hwy 465 section while I was there, so I'll be watching that during my trainer session tonight to get my head ready for the climbing.

Have a great day everyone, and HAVE FUN!!! 

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IKENTRI - 2010-09-15 12:51 PM

I'm the one that made the YouTube videos of the bike and run courses.  I hope they have been helpful to you all.

I also made a "realtime" ride video of the Hwy 465 section while I was there, so I'll be watching that during my trainer session tonight to get my head ready for the climbing.

Have a great day everyone, and HAVE FUN!!! 



  Thanks so much for your videos.  I know they helped me.  Now if you can just do one little thing else and ride the course for me.

   Good luck to you on sunday.
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Yes- Thanks for taking the time to make those videos!  I actually watched them this week just to calm myself down after looking at the elevation charts for the past few weeks.  The hills seem a little more manageable after seeing the videos.  Although I will really find out on Sunday.
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At tweet was recently posted listing a lake temp of 78 today. With 80s and 90s in the forecast, it is looking like a non-wetsuit swim.

Being a WTC race the temp needs to be 76 or lower to be wetsuit legal.

JPM


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I saw one saying it is 77 and expected race temp of 74.  Three more cold nights.  I hope they allow them but I am ready if they don't.
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jmcfarland - 2010-09-16 2:03 PM At tweet was recently posted listing a lake temp of 78 today. With 80s and 90s in the forecast, it is looking like a non-wetsuit swim. Being a WTC race the temp needs to be 76 or lower to be wetsuit legal. JPM


This rule confuses a lot of people.  The WTC rule reads "Wetsuits may be worn in water temperatures up to and including 24.5 degrees Celsius/76.1 degrees Fahrenheit. Athletes who choose to wear a wetsuit in water temperatures exceeding 24.5 degrees C /76.1 degrees F will not be eligible for awards, including World Championship slots. Wetsuits will be prohibited in water temperatures greater than 28.8 degrees C/84 degrees F."

So if temps are in the 76 - 84 range, age groupers can still wear a wet suit. If you do, you're still an official participant. If you finish the race, you're an official finisher and you still get whatever stuff is handed out at the finish line (hat / shirt / finisher medal / water bottle). What you don't get is the chance to win a Clearwater spot or one of the awards for finishing at the top of your age group. For 90% of us, are either of those things issues?
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You would think the race would make sure to let everyone know the rules about age groupers and wetsuits since like you said 90% of us are not worried about awards.  Anyways - good call on the wetsuit rules and also here is the link if anyone wants more details:

http://ironman.com/faq/rulesfaq#axzz0zjEG4AkK

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greatings from Branson!! we got in yesterday.  I rode a section of the bike course yesterday - looks worse then it really is! 

Can't wait for the race Sunday!!!

We are camping at Compton Ridge Campground - site 90...stop by if in the area!

See you all Sunday
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