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2009-01-10 2:46 PM
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Other than more time in the saddle, does anyone have suggestions/tips on increasing bike cadence?  During my hour drainer ride today, my cadence was steadily 76-79.  I need to spin, not mash.  Any suggestions/drills/tips?  Thanks.


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Brickey - 2009-01-10 3:46 PM Other than more time in the saddle, does anyone have suggestions/tips on increasing bike cadence?  During my hour drainer ride today, my cadence was steadily 76-79.  I need to spin, not mash.  Any suggestions/drills/tips?  Thanks.

Says who? I am a masher and struggle with cadence, but I know I am faster than most riders out there. It is something I am working on.

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Lisa B - 2009-01-10 2:15 PM
Aaron - why do you say this?  What makes it so difficult to get a roadbike into correct position?  And why do you say that it makes them slower runners?

It's a matter of slack seattube geometry and the far forward position aeorbars put you in.  Most often you see people develop knee and IT band problems.  Lots of people brush it off as "it's triathlon, it's supposed to be tough."

Does it make any difference that I had my seat post changed to one from a tri bike when I added the bars and had it fit?

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2009-01-10 9:34 PM
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JeepFleeb - 2009-01-10 8:43 AM

Big_D - 2009-01-10 8:04 AM
...my next purchase was going to be a set of aero bars to put on my road bike.  Good investment, or spend money on something else?

Horrible investment!  Avoid aerobars on a roadie like the plague.  It's incredibly difficult to get someone on a road bike's geometry into a correct position with aerobars.  You'll see lots of people do it, and it makes them faster cyclists, but it also makes them slower runners and thereby slower triathletes.

Save your money, race your roadie in the drop bars, worry about aerodynamics once you get to a tri bike.

 Thanks for the heads up, will stick with the set up I have.  Being a part of this group ROCKS!!

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icychacal - 2009-01-09 11:22 PM
so i'm reading all of this stuff about power meters, and have been doing some independent research on what i will need, not just for training purposes but for the race itself. Do you have a shortlist of stuff that would be beneficial for me to get right away? 

That's one of those things where there's too much to condense into a single post.

So the short list:
- swim lessons (or a group open water swim practice)
- a good quality bike fit
- run shoes based on a gait analysis
- race belt

From there let's take it a piece at a time so everyone else can throw in related questions as we go.  Where do you wanna start?

 Ok so....swimming actually will be my strongest part of a race. I swam in the military and feel more confident when it comes to competing swimming than running or biking.

 I went into a local bike shop today to look at road bikes. I was told I needed a 56 or 57....which all that really means to me is it's a fit for my body based on my inseam....???

 Where would I get a gait analysis done?

 

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2009-01-11 12:25 PM
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Aaron - can you tell me your philosphy on nurtrition for long runs (9-10 miles and up) and half marathons?

Here is what I did today - plan called for a 10 mile run - miles 1-7 were Zones 1 & 2 and last 3 miles were half marathon race pace.  Run was this morning 1 hour bBefore I ran I had 1 piece of cin raisin bread with pnb and a gel right before starting.  I then had a gel about 3 1/2 or 4 miles into the run and then right before mile 7 before I had to pick it up.  Felt good for the whole run.  I have really just started running long again and was not eating at all during the run.  So I am experimenting to see what works.

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JeepFleeb - 2009-01-11 4:07 PM

[For long distance, you want to train yourself to burn less and less calories from carbs (and more fat) across all your heart rate zones (an effecient metabolism) . . . . 

Aaron,  Thanks for the excellent explanation in response to Lisa's question.  Could you please expand on the portion of your response I copied above?  How do you train your body to burn fewer carbs and more fat while at the same time taking in as many carbs as your body will tolerate during training?  Thanks.

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2009-01-11 6:26 PM
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Aaron - thanks again for another detailed response.  After reading it though, I'm not sure if I'm more informed, confused, or maybe both.  Smile
2009-01-11 8:04 PM
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I also have a question in the area of running and eating.... I have stomach issues a lot of the time when I am running and I don't seem to be able to make out a pattern of when the trouble starts. Is there any guideline of how long to wait after eating? The only time I don't have issues is when I am running in the morning on an empty stomach or a granola bar... Then I am fine. In the evenings it can go both ways and it doesn't seemed to matter how long my last meal was ago. Also, I can go through an evening spinning class without a problem and then add an easy run afterwards and start feeling sick.... Any ideas/suggestions???

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Brickey - 2009-01-11 7:26 PM Aaron - thanks again for another detailed response.  After reading it though, I'm not sure if I'm more informed, confused, or maybe both.  Smile

Ditto.  I'm going to have to reread a few times to digest and then ask more questions. 

 

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Just wanted to say thanks for the well wishes on the sprint tri.  All in all it was a good learning experience for my first tri, learned a lot.   I placed in my group (there were only 5 in my age grou), I'll put the details in my log manana.  As you were.

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JeepFleeb - 2009-01-11 10:17 PM

ratkat - 2009-01-11 8:04 PM
I also have a question in the area of running and eating.... I have stomach issues a lot of the time when I am running and I don't seem to be able to make out a pattern of when the trouble starts. Is there any guideline of how long to wait after eating? The only time I don't have issues is when I am running in the morning on an empty stomach or a granola bar... Then I am fine. In the evenings it can go both ways and it doesn't seemed to matter how long my last meal was ago. Also, I can go through an evening spinning class without a problem and then add an easy run afterwards and start feeling sick.... Any ideas/suggestions???

That's a tough one.  Is there ANY time you run later in the day and don't feel sick?  Anything you ever eat that gives you discomfort during an early morning run?  Do you log your nutrition?

I normally don't eat before a morning run. If it's a mid morning run (around 10 am), I might eat a granola bar before, but that's basically it.... And to 95% I am doing fine. On evening runs I can feel fine or I can feel crappy (50:50 chance). If I cannot stomach food (did I mention IBS?), I have issues right after eating, but then I am fine.... Normally I have several hours between my last meal and an evening run, because I normally eat after I am done working out. Currently I am not logging my nutrition.... I haven't made myself familiar with the tool here....

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Hi Aaron and everyone

I had a great week end, found a way to do two double workouts day. I am trying to get more time into the training slowly to get ready for next season. 

As of now I am focusing mainly on my half-mary training for May, but I will eventually add more and more bike and swim to get ready for first tri ever at the end of May

I was wondering, I am thinking about trying a marathon somewhere mid July. What is your opinion on that? Is training for a marathon and for sprint/oly triathlon at the same time a logical thing to do? I am pretty sure it can be done as long as I am ready to put the time in but I would like to have your opinion on that. I am asking because the running part will be really high comparing to the swim and even the bike one.

Also after that marathon I am planning on focusing on my training for a oly distance that I am planning mid September. But I want to run another half-mary, or mary somewhere in October. Should I keep the running as high as possible during my oly training, or resume after the oly? 

Thank you in advance.

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