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Half marathon two weeks after your first marathon is a bad idea...

Stu: Great list there for swimming. I struggle with it so much!

Carol: I haven't had a problem with the asthma till Monday. Last episode was 3 or 4 years ago! Didn't ever think I'd have issues with it swimming. Someone told me to stick it into my suit. I have tri shorts that are pretty snug, so I can shove it in there. I'll just make sure to swim close to buoys, but I'm thinking that it's the chemicals in the pool water.

So, one of my biggest issues is that I get so angry when I can't complete a training session that I'll dwell on it and want to bag my entire training. I've been stewing over this swimming. I really need to get a grip.

Aren't the plans all 30 week plans? What does week 6 or 7 look like volume wise? Long run and bike distances? I can't find a local copy or I'd look myself.  

Dennis-you are right 30 weeks. But each plan is broken down in 10 weeks segments: Base, build and peak.  3 different plans. 1. Just finish 2. Intermediate and 3. Advanced.

Weeks 6-10 of intermediate are 7.5-11 hours.  Looks like during the build phase you are at 10-15hrs and similar for the peak phase.  This is all with 1 rest day per week. 

Randy

Blanda, that is so frustrating!  I deal with something different (type 1 diabetes), but it can have a similar impact at times.  Stubborn/dangerously low blood sugar has ended quite a few workouts prematurely for me over the years.  It really sucks when it happens, and I don't always have a nice polite mature response to it (can you say tears and cursing??).  But I think we are all here in this group because we have no intention of letting whatever issues we have in our lives keep us from pursuing our goals.  So here's to a new day of training, along with an inhaler and some glucose tucked into our respective tri suits!

Did 1.5 hr. on the trainer followed by a 5k run. First brick I've done in a while.

All I can say is that the posts are flying in this place.  I can't keep up.  I got my logs up to date and going to sleep in tomorrow morning.  By sleep in I mean 6:00.  Sad when that's considered sleeping in.  Really enjoying the new group.

Good morning all! Did an early recovery spin on the trainer this morning and hope to get a run in this evening before going to a party.  But first, got to head in work and get some work done.

Have a good day everyone.

Randy

Ouch!  The usual guideline (and it is just that -- not a rule) is 10% per week.  Coming back from injury, I would ditch the 10% rule.  Ironically, you might find yourself coming back faster than that (because you are really just returning to a volume that you held recently), but if the injury lingers, it will be much slower.  (I've had both happen to me coming back from injury.)  You really just have to listen to your body on this one, and back off at the slightest sign that things aren't going well.  (Any sharp pain during the run, any lingering pain after the run -- lingering for 15 minutes is OK, but lingering for hours is a sign to back off.)

Have you tried pool running?  Sounds like you're a candidate.

I would do the tri specific plan.  It is already training you to run a 10K, after all.  You can tweak the 10K race week a bit to give yourself a little taper and recovery, and you can add a bit to the running portion if you want to provide a little extra focus on preparing for the 10K.   A 16-week plan would start in about 6 weeks, which gives you some time to develop a decent base in preparation for jumping into the plan.

The reason is that the tri plan, as I said, is already preparing you to run 10K, whereas the 10K plan with some random mixed-in swim and bike isn't specifically preparing you to do the Oly.

That sounds like no fun.  Sorry to hear that you have to struggle through swimming in that way.  Do you happen to have access to a saltwater pool?  (Long shot, I know, but it could help.)

Alright, now that I'm caught up, what's on tap for everyone today?  I'm going to try to do a triple today:  pool 'run' followed by swim.  The bike later this afternoon.  All local pools will be closed on the 24th and 25th, so gotta get it in now!

Have a great day everyone!

Thanks for the feedback on the 1/2.   I will do the 5K with my friends, who are just getting started, so it will be slow.  I will undoubtedly be thanking you all for your wisdom on that day! 

Continuing to be flexible during this crazy holiday time.  I kind of thought work would slow down, but I'm putting in more hours than ever.  Shifting my 9-miler to tomorrow, the 5 miler on Saturday and the 18-miler on Monday.

Enjoying this run training time, but can't wait to get back to tri in February!

More stationary workout for me.  Probably 40 minutes on the stationary bike, and a 3 mile run.

Nothing exciting for me today.  10K at lunch with hill work + my usual sets of core, back and leg exercises.  Done.  Hoping to get a full week in this week b/c next week will likely be a "recovery" week - e.g. eat too much, drink too much, sit too much... too much.  Maybe will read the posts too... Guam, Hawaii, San Diego, Oregon, Canada... will you all be my BTBFs?  (Pretty cool actually!)

Stu

Nasty weather today here in LA (lower Alabama). Had to do a treadmill run and I just didn't have a very good run.  Legs were flat and heavy despite "recovery pace".  Early trainer workout in the morning before heading out to in-laws for the weekend. (Only 1.5 hours away).  Run only until I return on Monday.

My legs just have not bounced back from the 5K last Saturday.  I really pushed it in the race and I have found that as I get older it takes me SO much longer to recover from a hard race effort. I have been more tired this week than after any tri I did last year or even the HIM I did in 11/10.   Will try to take it a little easy next week so I can be ready to start 2012 strong.

Randy   

Thanks for the input Michael!  So far so good on returning to running, but I'll have some good conversations with my body about how it's going along the way.  One more trip to the doc (a runner) early next week and if he agrees, thinking I target weekly LR of 6, 8, 10, 12, 1/22 race.  Then ramp it up a bit before the one on 2/26 if all goes well.

Randy, congrats on your 5K!!!  Sounds like a little Christmas break is timed just right for you.  Enjoy!

I picked up a cold, but got 4 miles in this morning since it's all in my head so far.  May take a down day tomorrow since swimming with my stuffed up head sounds lousy.  Then hoping to do an informal 10K (easy fun run) with a few friends Christmas eve morning. 

So glad I'm not the only one that's a little intense about training details! I thought the pool I was swimming in was salt water, but I need to confirm that. Still need to see a doc to get my prescription. Not swimming till I do.

I HOPE to bike/run today while husband watches the kids at their swim lessons.

It does taste more like salt water, but it does have a chemically smell too. Someone said it was salt water and I just believed it, ha!