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2012-12-03 2:05 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

Well for what it's worth I live in a good neighborhood in Chicago and have been mugged and jumped by little thieves who had much opportunity to stab or shoot me. Still see no need for a gun as I was already packin' two: Lefty and Righty. BOOYAH!

Yeah so Asians are born with mad kung foo skills, white guys have to carry guns. What's your point? Are you arguing for fung foo fighting control?

It's not Kung Fu, racist. It's ninjutsu. :D

Haha my bad, I'll remember for next time.



2012-12-03 2:05 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2012-12-03 1:40 PM I thought it was "an" idiot.

Kind of demeaning to refer to Mr Costas as an "it", dontcha think?

It's like raaaaaa eeeeee aaaaaaaaiiiiiinnn, on your wedding day.

It's like good adviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice .....

Dontcha think??  A liiiiiittle toooooooooooooo ironic.

2012-12-03 2:14 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2012-12-03 2:05 PM

mrbbrad - 2012-12-03 12:54 PM

1stTimeTri - 2012-12-03 1:40 PM I thought it was "an" idiot.

Kind of demeaning to refer to Mr Costas as an "it", dontcha think?

It's like raaaaaa eeeeee aaaaaaaaiiiiiinnn, on your wedding day.

It's like good adviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice .....

Dontcha think??  A liiiiiittle toooooooooooooo ironic.



None of the examples she gives in her song are examples of irony. Also, she's Canadian.
2012-12-03 2:16 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2012-12-03 1:40 PM I thought it was "an" idiot.

Kind of demeaning to refer to Mr Costas as an "it", dontcha think?

It's like raaaaaa eeeeee aaaaaaaaiiiiiinnn, on your wedding day.

It's like good adviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice .....

Dontcha think??  A liiiiiittle toooooooooooooo ironic.

None of the examples she gives in her song are examples of irony. Also, she's Canadian.

[/hijack on]  And you know that IS ironic that she did it that way??  Smart lady, isn't she?  [/hijack off]

2012-12-03 2:22 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

 This Leroy Brown, is he a bad man?

2012-12-03 2:23 PM
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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

I think so. I still think it was just Costas on his own, and not really anything that the NFL or the network wanted him to say. His bosses might have been happy that he said it for the reasons you gave, but I don’t think that’s what was on his mind when he decided to put it out there.

What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?



What has been their official public reaction to what he said last night? If there has been one, I haven't heard it. I suspect, had he gone off on the topics you listed, it would have been the same, which is to say there would have been no official reaction from the NFL, at least not publicly.

Privately? Who knows? What do you think?


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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

 This Leroy Brown, is he a bad man?

He was the baddest man in the whole damn town.....but then Tuwood got a gun, some mace, a knife, and carries them everywhere. Leroy Brown is rat forked if he decides to escalate.

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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

 This Leroy Brown, is he a bad man?

He was the baddest man in the whole damn town.....but then Tuwood got a gun, some mace, a knife, and carries them everywhere. Leroy Brown is rat forked if he decides to escalate.

Not if we outlaw forks...

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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

And I got razzed on once for admitting to having a Bento Box on my bike!  I can't imagine what it must be like for you in transition.

 

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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

I think so. I still think it was just Costas on his own, and not really anything that the NFL or the network wanted him to say. His bosses might have been happy that he said it for the reasons you gave, but I don’t think that’s what was on his mind when he decided to put it out there.

What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?

What has been their official public reaction to what he said last night? If there has been one, I haven't heard it. I suspect, had he gone off on the topics you listed, it would have been the same, which is to say there would have been no official reaction from the NFL, at least not publicly. Privately? Who knows? What do you think?

As long as NBC keeps sending that $1 billion check over each year, I doubt the NFL cares what Costas said.  NBC might start to regret it if their advertisers start bailing.  But that's not gonna happen as long as ratings are high, and ratings are the result of good games, not the announcer.



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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

 This Leroy Brown, is he a bad man?

He was the baddest man in the whole damn town.....but then Tuwood got a gun, some mace, a knife, and carries them everywhere. Leroy Brown is rat forked if he decides to escalate.

Not if we outlaw forks...

but Leroy carries a 32 gun in his pocket for fun and has a razor in his shoe.



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What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?

What has been their official public reaction to what he said last night? If there has been one, I haven't heard it. I suspect, had he gone off on the topics you listed, it would have been the same, which is to say there would have been no official reaction from the NFL, at least not publicly.

Privately? Who knows? What do you think?

 

Edited to seperate my response from your last ,,,,,

I think it would be interesting to see what percent of the NFL players commit crimes including domestic violence compared to the rest of the popultion. I would also be curious see the same thing with regards to drug/alochol abuse.

 

 



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crusevegas - 2012-12-03 1:40 PM

What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?

What has been their official public reaction to what he said last night? If there has been one, I haven't heard it. I suspect, had he gone off on the topics you listed, it would have been the same, which is to say there would have been no official reaction from the NFL, at least not publicly.

Privately? Who knows? What do you think?

 

Edited to seperate my response from your last ,,,,,

I think it would be interesting to see what percent of the NFL players commit crimes including domestic violence compared to the rest of the popultion. I would also be curious see the same thing with regards to drug/alochol abuse.

 

I bet it's equal or less than the overall population.



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I bet it's equal or less than the overall population.

I guess others wondered the same thing... I'll let you make the conclusions...

http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/123.nflviol.pdf



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tuwood - 2012-12-03 2:06 PM
mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:59 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:47 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

 This Leroy Brown, is he a bad man?

He was the baddest man in the whole damn town.....but then Tuwood got a gun, some mace, a knife, and carries them everywhere. Leroy Brown is rat forked if he decides to escalate.

Not if we outlaw forks...

but Leroy carries a 32 gun in his pocket for fun and has a razor in his shoe.

 Wonder if he's ever squared off with this Tony fellow, rumor has it he is baaaad too. Really really really forking bad.



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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I carry a gun and a knife.  I think it's simply prudent to have a pocket knife on you at all times.  I've used that knife so often it has paid for itself a thousand times over.  Opening boxes, loosening screws.  I was taught by my grandfather to always have a knife on me.  A valuable tool that you end up smacking yourself in the head when you don't have it.

believe it or not MrTony there are individuals that are not law enforcement who carry because they have been specifically threatened or are employed in such a manner that makes them specific potential targets of violence.  I am such a person.

Paranoid?  Perhaps.  But of course i've had my life threatened several times by people that were capable and more than likely willing to carry out their threats.



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I was watching the game and heard Costas' words live...I just knew it would cause a "you-know-what" storm here at the Joe!  

Personally (and I do believe we need stricter gun control) I didn't think this incident was the best example to use, and therefore I was even a bit put off by Bob's editorial.  As was mentioned earlier, this dude could have (and probably would have) taken her out with his bare hands.  Guns sure do make it easier though.

I still love Costas...he is not an idiot.  One more thing, TriR, you seemed to imply this may have been an example of the NFL wanting to deflect attention away from head injuries, I disagree.  I am pretty sure Costas has ultimate say in how he editorializes.

Unfortunately, Belcher's brain likely can't be studied as that's where he shot himself.  A lot of the other NFL suicides intentionally did it in their chests so their brains could be studied.  It's all very sad.

 

 

 

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What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?

What has been their official public reaction to what he said last night? If there has been one, I haven't heard it. I suspect, had he gone off on the topics you listed, it would have been the same, which is to say there would have been no official reaction from the NFL, at least not publicly.

Privately? Who knows? What do you think?

 

Edited to seperate my response from your last ,,,,,

I think it would be interesting to see what percent of the NFL players commit crimes including domestic violence compared to the rest of the popultion. I would also be curious see the same thing with regards to drug/alochol abuse.

 

 



What do you think the NFL reaction would have been if Costas had gone off about domestic violence and alcoholism instead of guns?
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I was watching the game and heard Costas' words live...I just knew it would cause a "you-know-what" storm here at the Joe!  

Personally (and I do believe we need stricter gun control) I didn't think this incident was the best example to use, and therefore I was even a bit put off by Bob's editorial.  As was mentioned earlier, this dude could have (and probably would have) taken her out with his bare hands.  Guns sure do make it easier though.

I still love Costas...he is not an idiot.  One more thing, TriR, you seemed to imply this may have been an example of the NFL wanting to deflect attention away from head injuries, I disagree.  I am pretty sure Costas has ultimate say in how he editorializes.

Unfortunately, Belcher's brain likely can't be studied as that's where he shot himself.  A lot of the other NFL suicides intentionally did it in their chests so their brains could be studied.  It's all very sad.

Oh my God.  Do you people read what I write?  I have NEVER once said that the NFL had ANY control over what Costas said.  Never.

I have said that I believe Costas has chosen (on his own) to deflect the attention away from the issues the NFL has.

Those are two very different things.

ETA: In my original posts I did say "Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players."  

Poor choice of words.  I was talking about Costas then switched to the NFL.  I can now see the confusion.

While I do believe that to be true I can see how it could be confused that I thought Costas was working at the behest of the NFL.  I think both the NFL and Costas want to deflect this away from the brain injury problems.  But they are not colluding in their actions to do so.

OK, is that clearer now?



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I bet it's equal or less than the overall population.

I guess others wondered the same thing... I'll let you make the conclusions...

http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/123.nflviol.pdf



Sure, but what about the XFL? With names like "He Hate me" on their backs...
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I'll tell ya' who is an idiot in this thing...Jason Whitlock.  He's an idiot.  And yes he did equate the NRA with the KKK.


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I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

 This Leroy Brown, is he a bad man?

He was the baddest man in the whole damn town.....but then Tuwood got a gun, some mace, a knife, and carries them everywhere. Leroy Brown is rat forked if he decides to escalate.

Not if we outlaw forks...

but Leroy carries a 32 gun in his pocket for fun and has a razor in his shoe.

 Wonder if he's ever squared off with this Tony fellow, rumor has it he is baaaad too. Really really really forking bad.

 

 

I guess it would depend upon the size of the knife compared to the razor and the speed of said person pulling said killing instrument from their specific place on their body compared to the speed of said person # 2 doing the same thing, or it could be a #1 is pulling a knife while #2 is pulling a .32?  Or vice versa.  And the training of #1 compared to the speed of the street fighter #2?  Or the possible transaction of the mace from #1 getting sprayed in both of their eyes and they both pull their guns and start shooting and innocent mrTony getting shot because he was trying to break it up. 



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Brock Samson - 2012-12-03 3:30 PM

I'll tell ya' who is an idiot in this thing...Jason Whitlock.  He's an idiot.  And yes he did equate the NRA with the KKK.


Whitlock's been an idiot since his KC Star days. This is nothing new. It's sad Costas jumped on Whitlocks bandwagon.
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Left Brain - 2012-12-03 4:10 PM

I bet it's equal or less than the overall population.

I guess others wondered the same thing... I'll let you make the conclusions...

http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/123.nflviol.pdf

As I suspected, the assault rates are  lower for NFL players than for the genral population....so much for the head trauma defense.  Looks like I'll be sticking with my "he's an azzhole control freak" explanation......it generally holds up in all quarters when it comes to domestic violence.

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Brock Samson - 2012-12-03 3:30 PM I'll tell ya' who is an idiot in this thing...Jason Whitlock.  He's an idiot.  And yes he did equate the NRA with the KKK.
Whitlock's been an idiot since his KC Star days. This is nothing new. It's sad Costas jumped on Whitlocks bandwagon.

Costas makes an idiot out of himself anytime he speaks about any topic outside of baseball.

See: coverage of the Olympics.

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