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HoLiCao - 2013-05-05 5:47 PM

Welcome aboard!  I'm guessing you're in Georgia.  Both Chris and I lived in Atlanta / Decatur (although we're both in New England now).

Yep, currently in Athens, although have lived and worked all over Metro Atlanta.



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Welcome aboard!  I'm guessing you're in Georgia.  Both Chris and I lived in Atlanta / Decatur (although we're both in New England now).

Yep, currently in Athens, although have lived and worked all over Metro Atlanta.

I love Athens, UGA is a great place.

2013-05-06 7:17 AM
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Kuma - 2013-05-05 8:49 PM

I did the Monticelloman Olympic near Charlottesville today.  It was hard, I'm pleased with the way it came out.  I finished in 2:48 - 3 minutes slower than my goal of 2:45, but then I didn't have anything really concrete to base the goal on so who knows if it was realistic to start out with.  It was a nice course - rolling hills on both the bike and the run, and a cold (66 degrees) but scenic lake swim.  As I guess I should've expected, I felt reasonably strong on the bike, and sort of useless on both the swim and the run.  Overall, it was a fun, manageably-sized, well-organized event.

I spent all of yesterday obsessing about how to prepare my transitions so I didn't forget anything.  I didn't end up forgetting anything, but I felt like I could've done them faster. 

I'll post a full race report as soon as they post the results so I know my times for the three events and the transitions, but I did want to let the group know that I made it (no longer a TOTAL noob!) and to thank everyone for your advice.  I can only get faster from here!  Cheers!

P.S. - I rewarded myself with a bacon cheeseburger, fries, and a big ol' beer.  That's the reason we do this, after all, isn't it?  

Yay, Matt!  Congratulations!  It's a great feeling; isn't it?!  

You'll get faster and faster at the transitions.  Are you signed up for another olympic this season?  

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cmohr623 - 2013-05-06 12:14 AM

Hi Scott & Kelly, I would like to join your group please!

Name - Christian

Story - About 6yrs ago with a failing marriage, I began running as an outlet (much cheaper than therapy).  At first it was just that, an outlet, but after a few yrs of running no more than 5miles, a friend asked me to train for a half marathon with her.  Unfortunately she got injured and was unable to complete the training or race, but I did.  It wasn't a pretty race, but I finished, so I decided to see if I could do a full marathon.  I joined a running group and was quickly hooked.  I have completed 3 Full Marathons and 4 Half Marathons in the last 2yrs and I am now an assistant full marathon coach for my running group.

I had been kicking around attempting a Tri and was hanging out with a friend one night talking about this and she said I could totally do TRi's.  At that moment I decided I needed to set a lofty goal if I was going to push myself to do it, so I made the goal of completing a Full Ironman before I turn 50, that gives me 4yrs.  The plan is to do a couple sprint or olympic Tri's late summer early fall with the goal of the Austin Half IM in late Oct.  Then work on the Madison Full IM for Sept 2014!  I'm not fast, but I don't know the word quit, so I will get to the starting line and somehow I will cross the finish line no matter how long it takes!

Family Status - Divorced with two beautiful daughters (16/13).  I do have a very large extended family since my mom was the 5th of 15 kids and a majority live in the Northern Illinois / Southern Wisconsin area hence my choice to do the Madison Full IM!  I will have one huge cheering section!

Current Training - Running about 3 days a week, riding 2 - 3 days a week, and starting a Masters Swim Class at the local YMCA this week.  Also going to be setting up my official BT Training Plan for the Half IM this week.

This Years Races - So far this year I have ran the Austin 3M Half Marathon (PR - 1:50), the Austin LiveStrong Marathon (PR - 4:17), the Austin 1020 (10mi in 1:24), and my 2nd ToughMudder (just for fun).

2013 Races - Running in the Palo Duro Hot Dog 15K (July) with a bunch of other coaches from my running group, the Shiner Half Marathon (Nov), at least two Sprint or Olympic distance Tri's in Aug and Sept as practice for my main goal race for this year which is the Austin Half IM (Oct).

So running and riding I can do.  Was a big cyclist years ago and recently bought a new bike and started riding again (forgot how much I really loved riding)!  My big problem area is swimming!  I can't seem to figure out how to breathe.  Hoping that the Masters Swim Class can teach me how to do this!

Looking forward to being part of this group and entering into the wonderful world of Tri's!

G'night all!

Christian

Welcome, Christian!  I think starting with masters swim is the way to go.  Hopefully the team has a knowledgable swim coach who will help you with your breathing and form.  

2013-05-06 7:25 AM
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kaburns1214 - 2013-05-06 6:30 AM

Here's the updated list:

Scott - UHCoog

Kelly - kaburns1214

Michele - DDVMM

Kristen - enders_shadow

Larkin - Kidtri33

Matt - mleech77

Chris - ccmpsyd

Jen - jarvy01

Matt - Kuma

Deb - cheekymonkeys1

David - tdl1972

Katie - kr140.6

Chad - HoLiCao 

Corbet - corbetjackson50

Scott - everlong

Todd - cobratodd

Colleen - collyd123

Christian - cmohr623

I think we're going to shut the group down now.  If you haven't posted a bio, please do so.

Also if you would like to find me on Facebook, you can here -- https://www.facebook.com/kelburns?ref=tn_tnmn

I would encourage everyone to add the list to your friends section of your training log.  It makes it much easier to view logs and leave comments.  For anyone new to the site, it should be on the left side of your training log page (there is a plus sign to add friends).  

2013-05-06 7:36 AM
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I'm looking for suggestions for cycling jackets.  It's a bit chilly here in the early morning.  I really need to get out on the roads for my long rides but I don't like freezing to death.  Ideas?  Thanks!


2013-05-06 7:42 AM
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corbetjackson50 - 2013-05-05 6:56 PM I'd like to join!Name: Corbet JacksonStory: Im am me to everything related to tris. I was a spectator at Im Louisville last year to watch my sister in laws boyfriend. This inspired me to have a go at it. I only have internet on my smart phone so please excuse the short posts and the excessive spelling and grammatical errors.Family: Married to my wonderful supportive wife with 2 kids Charlotte (4 in two weeks) and Wyatt (2 on May 1st).2012 races: none2013 races: Lame Duck sprint (long swim short but very hilly bike and run)Weightloss: I could benefit losing 10-15lbs Im 5'11" 170lbsTraining: Im in the very early stages as I am new at this but want to train as aggressive as I safely can. I want to so well in my race! I am going to focus on swiming more than the other two. The swim is a little over a half mile open water. Id love to be near the front of the pack at T1.

Welcome aboard! 

This is a really interesting statement: "I am new at this but want to train as aggressive as I safely can."

I want Scott to weigh in first on this one.

I'm assuming me Scott and not the other Scott.  Always confusing.

 

Anyway please be careful and smart about your training.  More and harder don't necessarily equal better.  I come from a very aggressive organized sports background and when I started triathlon I had a very balls to the wall, for lack of a better phrase, approach like we had in football or baseball.  In the long run it ended up getting me shelved with ITBS.  I think what newer triathletes fail to recognize is that rest and recovery are as important if not more than the training itself.  Whether it's taking an off day or working recovery workouts into your regiment it takes a really smart schedule to make really aggressive gains.  

2013-05-06 7:45 AM
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jarvy01 - 2013-05-06 7:25 AM
kaburns1214 - 2013-05-06 6:30 AM

Here's the updated list:

Scott - UHCoog

Kelly - kaburns1214

Michele - DDVMM

Kristen - enders_shadow

Larkin - Kidtri33

Matt - mleech77

Chris - ccmpsyd

Jen - jarvy01

Matt - Kuma

Deb - cheekymonkeys1

David - tdl1972

Katie - kr140.6

Chad - HoLiCao 

Corbet - corbetjackson50

Scott - everlong

Todd - cobratodd

Colleen - collyd123

Christian - cmohr623

I think we're going to shut the group down now.  If you haven't posted a bio, please do so.

Also if you would like to find me on Facebook, you can here -- https://www.facebook.com/kelburns?ref=tn_tnmn

I would encourage everyone to add the list to your friends section of your training log.  It makes it much easier to view logs and leave comments.  For anyone new to the site, it should be on the left side of your training log page (there is a plus sign to add friends).  

 

Looks like a good group of folks.  I'm here on Facebook: 

https://www.facebook.com/smcmichaeljr

2013-05-06 8:30 AM
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Kuma - 2013-05-05 8:49 PM

I did the Monticelloman Olympic near Charlottesville today.  It was hard, I'm pleased with the way it came out.  I finished in 2:48 - 3 minutes slower than my goal of 2:45, but then I didn't have anything really concrete to base the goal on so who knows if it was realistic to start out with.  It was a nice course - rolling hills on both the bike and the run, and a cold (66 degrees) but scenic lake swim.  As I guess I should've expected, I felt reasonably strong on the bike, and sort of useless on both the swim and the run.  Overall, it was a fun, manageably-sized, well-organized event.

I spent all of yesterday obsessing about how to prepare my transitions so I didn't forget anything.  I didn't end up forgetting anything, but I felt like I could've done them faster. 

I'll post a full race report as soon as they post the results so I know my times for the three events and the transitions, but I did want to let the group know that I made it (no longer a TOTAL noob!) and to thank everyone for your advice.  I can only get faster from here!  Cheers!

P.S. - I rewarded myself with a bacon cheeseburger, fries, and a big ol' beer.  That's the reason we do this, after all, isn't it?  

Awesome job Matt! Congrats, can't wait for the report.
2013-05-06 8:42 AM
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Kuma - 2013-05-05 8:49 PM

I did the Monticelloman Olympic near Charlottesville today.  It was hard, I'm pleased with the way it came out.  I finished in 2:48 - 3 minutes slower than my goal of 2:45, but then I didn't have anything really concrete to base the goal on so who knows if it was realistic to start out with.  It was a nice course - rolling hills on both the bike and the run, and a cold (66 degrees) but scenic lake swim.  As I guess I should've expected, I felt reasonably strong on the bike, and sort of useless on both the swim and the run.  Overall, it was a fun, manageably-sized, well-organized event.

I spent all of yesterday obsessing about how to prepare my transitions so I didn't forget anything.  I didn't end up forgetting anything, but I felt like I could've done them faster. 

I'll post a full race report as soon as they post the results so I know my times for the three events and the transitions, but I did want to let the group know that I made it (no longer a TOTAL noob!) and to thank everyone for your advice.  I can only get faster from here!  Cheers!

P.S. - I rewarded myself with a bacon cheeseburger, fries, and a big ol' beer.  That's the reason we do this, after all, isn't it?  

Grats on the race completion!  I know I lost a lot of time on my transitions during my sprint last month.  I have to work on making them smoother. 

2013-05-06 8:49 AM
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So the 10 day forecast puts The Woodlands at a high of 82 on May 15th (3 days out).  That would be so awesome.


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Name: Scott

Story: I've already competed at something be it skydiving, lacrosse...so 2010 was a sprint. 2011 was 3 Olympics and 2012 was 2 HIMs. This year looking to do two more HIMs and get faster. I felt like I needed another year of seasoning before going IM and I'm very happy with my choice. Doing the volume this year is much easier than last and I'm not fighting just to maintain and not burnout as the season goes along.

Family Status: Married with 5 girls.

Current Training: Took 9 days off to go to Disney with the family. Keeping the wife happy for all the training she lets me get away with.


2012 Races: Patriot HIM, Pumpkinman HIM. 

Planned 2013 Races:  REV3 Half Williamsburg, REV3 Half Maine

Weightloss: Race last year at 181 and 184. Currently 190 because of vacation. Left at 184. Would like to be 175. I can lose weight pretty easily when I put my mind to dieting. I just love food. I'll be back at 184 by the end of the week but then the pounds get tougher.

Goals: I'd like to break 5:10 in a half this year. A lot will depend on the weather I get. If it's 90 and humid or raining in both events that will go right out the door. As it is it will be hard to pull off but what's the fun of easy goals?

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uhcoog - 2013-05-06 8:42 AM I'm assuming me Scott and not the other Scott.  Always confusing.

I think we can safely say when Kelly defers it's to you but in general there have been times I haven't been sure either.

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Kuma - 2013-05-05 8:49 PM

I did the Monticelloman Olympic near Charlottesville today.  It was hard, I'm pleased with the way it came out.  I finished in 2:48 - 3 minutes slower than my goal of 2:45, but then I didn't have anything really concrete to base the goal on so who knows if it was realistic to start out with.  It was a nice course - rolling hills on both the bike and the run, and a cold (66 degrees) but scenic lake swim.  As I guess I should've expected, I felt reasonably strong on the bike, and sort of useless on both the swim and the run.  Overall, it was a fun, manageably-sized, well-organized event.

I spent all of yesterday obsessing about how to prepare my transitions so I didn't forget anything.  I didn't end up forgetting anything, but I felt like I could've done them faster. 

I'll post a full race report as soon as they post the results so I know my times for the three events and the transitions, but I did want to let the group know that I made it (no longer a TOTAL noob!) and to thank everyone for your advice.  I can only get faster from here!  Cheers!

P.S. - I rewarded myself with a bacon cheeseburger, fries, and a big ol' beer.  That's the reason we do this, after all, isn't it?  

Great job and nice time.

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everlong - 2013-05-06 11:06 AM

Current Training: Took 9 days off to go to Disney with the family. Keeping the wife happy for all the training she lets me get away with.

Once the race season gets into full swing I'm curious what my trade offs will be with my wife.  She's already putting up with a lot considering I work part time for a road racing organization.  One weekend a month I'm at a track playing with race cars.  Now I'm adding my own race season on top of this.  This year it's all "local" so within 2 hours drive, but I'm already storing up as many brownie points as I can.

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everlong - 2013-05-06 11:06 AM

Current Training: Took 9 days off to go to Disney with the family. Keeping the wife happy for all the training she lets me get away with.


Isn't that right



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mleech77 - 2013-05-06 11:16 AM

everlong - 2013-05-06 11:06 AM

Current Training: Took 9 days off to go to Disney with the family. Keeping the wife happy for all the training she lets me get away with.

Once the race season gets into full swing I'm curious what my trade offs will be with my wife.  She's already putting up with a lot considering I work part time for a road racing organization.  One weekend a month I'm at a track playing with race cars.  Now I'm adding my own race season on top of this.  This year it's all "local" so within 2 hours drive, but I'm already storing up as many brownie points as I can.

I do nearly all my training before 8AM even on the weekends. So to pull that off I was up at 4:35 this morning and got in 1:15 on the trainer plus an hour run. I take Saturdays off so she can sleep in and I take care of any issues with the toddler or 6 month old and even Sundays I'm up at 4-5AM depending on the workout. During the week I'll run or swim on my lunch hour. You learn how to squeeze it in to keep the home life happy which at the end of the day it's more important than our hobby we love.

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Okay so this weekend didn't go exactly as planned with training but I did learn some things. Over/Unders are brutal! enough said on that one. Make a larger window for long training rides...and I am one awesome BBQ man! Daughter was very happy with here smoked wings and ribs for her birthday. On top of that her team go their first win of the season Saturday. My son scored the winning goal for his team. I'll take all that any day over a 3 hour training ride Now my focus is on this week:

2200 w/Catch drills done this morning. 40 mins OLPs(One Legged Pedaling) later today. 13 days till first race of season.

So this is kind of a newb question and it may help out the many new folks we have in here as well. When the swim calls for 8x100 best sustainable effort. I assume you are doing 100s and "resting" for about 5-10s before the next 100? At least that is what I have been doing.

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kidtri33 - 2013-05-06 11:18 AM
everlong - 2013-05-06 11:06 AM

Current Training: Took 9 days off to go to Disney with the family. Keeping the wife happy for all the training she lets me get away with.


Isn't that right

Quite right.

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everlong - 2013-05-06 11:29 AM
mleech77 - 2013-05-06 11:16 AM

everlong - 2013-05-06 11:06 AM

Current Training: Took 9 days off to go to Disney with the family. Keeping the wife happy for all the training she lets me get away with.

Once the race season gets into full swing I'm curious what my trade offs will be with my wife.  She's already putting up with a lot considering I work part time for a road racing organization.  One weekend a month I'm at a track playing with race cars.  Now I'm adding my own race season on top of this.  This year it's all "local" so within 2 hours drive, but I'm already storing up as many brownie points as I can.

I do nearly all my training before 8AM even on the weekends. So to pull that off I was up at 4:35 this morning and got in 1:15 on the trainer plus an hour run. I take Saturdays off so she can sleep in and I take care of any issues with the toddler or 6 month old and even Sundays I'm up at 4-5AM depending on the workout. During the week I'll run or swim on my lunch hour. You learn how to squeeze it in to keep the home life happy which at the end of the day it's more important than our hobby we love.

X2 on this ^^^ If it is a short run like a 30 min recovery or such I usually get it in at night. That usually is a good time for me to get some good core and stretch work in afterwards while "relaxing" with the wife.

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kidtri33 - 2013-05-06 10:29 AM

Okay so this weekend didn't go exactly as planned with training but I did learn some things. Over/Unders are brutal! enough said on that one. Make a larger window for long training rides...and I am one awesome BBQ man! Daughter was very happy with here smoked wings and ribs for her birthday. On top of that her team go their first win of the season Saturday. My son scored the winning goal for his team. I'll take all that any day over a 3 hour training ride Now my focus is on this week:

2200 w/Catch drills done this morning. 40 mins OLPs(One Legged Pedaling) later today. 13 days till first race of season.

So this is kind of a newb question and it may help out the many new folks we have in here as well. When the swim calls for 8x100 best sustainable effort. I assume you are doing 100s and "resting" for about 5-10s before the next 100? At least that is what I have been doing.

 

Haha.  I have over/unders on the bike and run this week.



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everlong - 2013-05-06 11:29 AM

I do nearly all my training before 8AM even on the weekends. So to pull that off I was up at 4:35 this morning and got in 1:15 on the trainer plus an hour run. I take Saturdays off so she can sleep in and I take care of any issues with the toddler or 6 month old and even Sundays I'm up at 4-5AM depending on the workout. During the week I'll run or swim on my lunch hour. You learn how to squeeze it in to keep the home life happy which at the end of the day it's more important than our hobby we love.

That's the same for me at this point.  When I initially started it was in the evenings, so it was cutting into our time together.  Now I get up at 5am every weekday, 6am Sat/Sun and get my initial workouts done.  If I have a second one to do that day I will do it as soon as I get home.  My schedule is pretty consistent (unless it's crazy at work), 9 - 5, with commute that's 7:30 - 6:30.  She babysits from 5:30 - 8:30 each morning, and then works as a receptionist from 2pm - 7pm.  Every other weekend she does massage for a few clients in their home.

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kidtri33 - 2013-05-06 11:29 AM

So this is kind of a newb question and it may help out the many new folks we have in here as well. When the swim calls for 8x100 best sustainable effort. I assume you are doing 100s and "resting" for about 5-10s before the next 100? At least that is what I have been doing.

No. Generally what I do is warm up and then I do my first 100 at a fast but not all out pace. Depending on how I feel that's generally somewhere between 1:25 to 1:35 when I hit the wall. I take ten seconds of rest and that is my sustainable effort. So let's say I bring it in at 1:33 I'll round up to keep it even and take 12 seconds on the first one and my intervals are at 1:45. By the 8th one you start to fatigue and the rest might only be 5 seconds. Other days I'll actually get faster and if that happens I may drop to a 1:40 interval but I don't let myself add onto the interval.

There's some trial and error but after doing it a few times you'll learn your paces and it will become instinctual. I can within a second tell you how fast I brought in an interval 98% of the time and the other two percent I'm usually pretty close as well.

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everlong - 2013-05-06 10:38 AM
kidtri33 - 2013-05-06 11:29 AM

So this is kind of a newb question and it may help out the many new folks we have in here as well. When the swim calls for 8x100 best sustainable effort. I assume you are doing 100s and "resting" for about 5-10s before the next 100? At least that is what I have been doing.

No. Generally what I do is warm up and then I do my first 100 at a fast but not all out pace. Depending on how I feel that's generally somewhere between 1:25 to 1:35 when I hit the wall. I take ten seconds of rest and that is my sustainable effort. So let's say I bring it in at 1:33 I'll round up to keep it even and take 12 seconds on the first one and my intervals are at 1:45. By the 8th one you start to fatigue and the rest might only be 5 seconds. Other days I'll actually get faster and if that happens I may drop to a 1:40 interval but I don't let myself add onto the interval.

There's some trial and error but after doing it a few times you'll learn your paces and it will become instinctual. I can within a second tell you how fast I brought in an interval 98% of the time and the other two percent I'm usually pretty close as well.

So the swim portion of my first sprint did not go as I had hoped. I looked at the Garmin data and it looks like I went out pretty fast for the first 100 or so. I know I thought to myself that I should slow down because I was concerned with really conking out, which screwed me up. Long story short - I do not pace well swimming.

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uhcoog - 2013-05-06 8:42 AM I'm assuming me Scott and not the other Scott.  Always confusing.

I think we can safely say when Kelly defers it's to you but in general there have been times I haven't been sure either.

I would say in this case it either Scott could answer the question well. 

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