Milaminute and Sparco's Group - Closed (Page 5)

Mila, LOVE the descriptions!  Nice break between meetings.  I CAN NOT WAIT until December 21st!

That's why I get paid the big bucks, Sal .  Heh.

Just one more thing... RPE is great if you are just trying to learn about heart rate zones, you don't have a heart rate monitor (HRM) or you have a HRM but you don't really know your specific zones.

However, I would really encourage people to find out more about their HR zones.  There are a variety of ways to do this including LT (lactic treshold tests), Metabolic Assessment Profiles, VO2 peak/max tests, etc. to get more specific data.

Well said, Corey!

Having your bike professionally fit is money well spent.  By the way... sometimes when you purchase a bike they will "fit" you on it... meaning they figure out what size you need and may make minor adjustments to the seat and handlebar height.  However, there is a huge difference between this and a professional fitting.  So sometimes when you think you've had a fitting you really haven't.  Let us know if you need more information about that, Pilot.  You want to go to a smaller LBS for this service as opposed to someplace like Performance. 

I would have loved to join this group, as I have little to no motivation these days. But I see I am too late and I'm sure Mila with her cold little heart won't let me join.

Oh well, I will just have to lurk around get my motivation through osmosis

You all are very lucky to have Mila and Sparco as mentors, you will do well if you listen to them!

Ummmm.  Hi.  Tom?  Yes, you are right, I, with my cold, evil heart wouldn't let you join but here's the thing.  Sparco SPECIFICALLY told me that if anyone who has completed a double freakin' ironman wants to join after we close the thread we would have to allow it. 

You are welcome anytime, you know, according to Sparco and all... .

milaminute - 2007-12-13 3:02 PM Wow... that's a lot in and of itself!  I understand about the scheduling thing... it's not always so simple to plan ahead.  I've always maintained that if someone could put on a race at like 10:00 on a Tuesday morning I'd be first in line to register .

Ditto.  The only time I'm up before the sun is for crying children or race day.  LOL

gygyhawk - 2007-12-13 2:04 PM

milaminute - 2007-12-13 3:02 PM Wow... that's a lot in and of itself!  I understand about the scheduling thing... it's not always so simple to plan ahead.  I've always maintained that if someone could put on a race at like 10:00 on a Tuesday morning I'd be first in line to register .

Ditto.  The only time I'm up before the sun is for crying children or race day.  LOL

Me too! Well, except for masters swim practices--only once so far, but it was kinda nice once I was up and moving.

Hi Craig.  I trained for my 1st marathon using a program from Runner's World.  Here's a program for a 10K.  It's 3 times running per week, with an optional 4th day.  Let me know what you think.  How far out is your race?

redlv - 2007-12-13 5:40 PM A. Sal, I've tried a few of the BT plans, and since they assume equal ability in all three arenas, they haven't really worked for me. My membership expires in a few days not sure what to do. I'm getting a "run analysis" done tomorrow so should have a base of where to spring and leap forward in a most pleasant gazelle like fashion with the run. One of my biggest issues I noticed, is that I tend to talk myself out of running. For ex. last night, I planned to do 3 miles, but by the time I got to 1.5 I was like "ok, I'm done." I know I should be building base, burning calories etc but my mind seems to be in control. B. Mila, that is an AWESOME explanation for the zones! C. Hi everyone, stay away from these or not, they look kinda good!:

Hey Kara.  Shhhhhhh...what we did for Mila was a blend of programs.  We put her on a sprint tri training program, but also worked in higher bike miles for her HIM distance race.

In your case, we can blend a sprint tri with an Ironman swim program, so you'd be doing training for your 3 mile swim, and at the same time get some beginning running in.  Let me know.  If you decide to renew Gold (actually renewing with Silver will work) I can help you work through a program and download it into your blog.  Just give me the race dates and distances, i.e., swim 3 miles on (date), sprint tri on (date).

Absolutely Amy!!!  Most sprint training programs are typically only 12 weeks.  You've got plenty of time.  You'll be ready.  The winter maintenance program has you working out between 4 and 7 hours a week.  It's a Silver Member option, but I could give you a few details.

Do you have any races happening before then?

I was just perusing the local tri club's website and found an article about training plans for beginners vs "pre-beginners". Here's an excerpt that totally fits me, and made me laugh:

But what if you were a competitive swimmer in your youth? Swimming is the hardest of the three activities to pick up because it is the most technical. Becoming an expert runner is a bit like becoming an expert house painter. You get the knack of it pretty easily, and then it's just a matter of doing the work and whether or not God and your parents imbued you with a strong back. Becoming an expert swimmer is not like painting a house. It's more like painting a canvas. Yes, it's a matter of practice, but you can't simply grunt and sweat your way to fitness. There is an element of technique that just takes time to master.

If this is you––if you already have the swimming more or less mastered from a technical point of view––then in keeping with the metaphor we'll call you a growth stock, and your time for growth will start now. Your current problem has nothing to do with drowning in the water, it's just that you're just a fat, disgusting, out-of-shape, wheezing, pitiable slob. In this case our job just got a lot easier. We can put you on the accelerated plan., AKA the "Not-quite-beginner training schedule."

 

Not quite as funny out of context, but yeah. the article delves into workout plans from there.

Yup, that is more than doable!!!  It's a great goal.  You have more than enough time to train and it's not a distance that is overwhelming while you have so many other things on your plate.

um, races? You mean like where I actually, um, race? Nope. I'm sure there are some around here, though, if you think it would be a good idea. Remember I'm about as green as they come. Before my ankle issue last month I was planning on entering the Salt Lake City 5k in the spring.

redlv - 2007-12-13 6:40 PM A. Sal, I've tried a few of the BT plans, and since they assume equal ability in all three arenas, they haven't really worked for me. My membership expires in a few days not sure what to do. I'm getting a "run analysis" done tomorrow so should have a base of where to spring and leap forward in a most pleasant gazelle like fashion with the run. One of my biggest issues I noticed, is that I tend to talk myself out of running. For ex. last night, I planned to do 3 miles, but by the time I got to 1.5 I was like "ok, I'm done." I know I should be building base, burning calories etc but my mind seems to be in control.

When you hit that 1.5 how do you feel physically... are you feeling tired/drained/out of breath or is it that you just aren't into it?  If it's the latter, maybe you can just try to set smaller goals... even if it's to get through .25 or .5 miles at a time.  I frequently will be running for 16 minutes and decide I've had enough... but then realize I'm really close to 20.  I play stupid games like that with myself all the time but they seem to work.  Incidentally, there are a lot of .25 miles in 13.1 miles... just think of all the small victories you could celebrate along the way!!! 

Thanks, Kara, you know, I am a licensed professional and all... I even have a jacket that says MASTER instructor on it.  I try not to wear it in public too much, though, you know, 'cause I'm so intimidating and all .

Ummmm... yeah, no, not so much for me with the cookies and bacon... and is that gravy??? 

You can certainly modify the plans to make them work for you.  I think you will find that a silver membership is helpful because it includes training minutes, training specifics (like drills) and also HR training info.   You can then look through the options and find the one that best meets your needs (or modify to meet your needs).

OK, so you can't get to the gym... that means swimming is the tough one to get done.  Can you run outside?  Do you have a trainer that you can use to get your rides in?  That would be a great investment for you.  I'm sure I already mentioned it but I like my trainer because it's the only way I get to watch t.v. ever!

For me, scheduling is tough and I had to have my arm twisted many times to upload my plan into my blog because my compulsive nature wasn't too keen on seeing that on this and such a date I was supposed to do X, Y, and Z but Exhibit A had a concert that day and my other kid was sick so I did a whole lotta nothing.  However, I have come to embrace it (but please do NOT tell Sal... also, don't tell him that I still don't have a lap counter on my watch, I'm hoping he gets me one for Christmas though).  I have found that I can usually juggle the workouts around my schedule enough to git'r'done and I'm trying to learn to forgive myself when I can't.  You are not going to lose a huge amount of fitness over a few missed workouts.  I do often train early in the morning and sometimes later at night than I'd like to... but I think that just comes with the territory and you'll see that the beginner plans are very reasonable in terms of the time committment.

Good morning everyone... you're all up, right??!!

I'm on my way out the door for some ST and later I'm supposed to go evaluate a spin class.  I might try to swim today, too, if I have the time.  I have a client meeting this afternoon and I have got to get some shopping done.

What's on tap for you training-wise (or otherwise) today? 

(I answer every question Mila has...it's a requirement)

Gonna try and catch up on the swim I missed yesterday.  It's like the movie 'Groundhog Day.'  My day will be exactly the same as yesterday.  Update pre-trial documents.  Meetings all day. 

Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today.